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  1. Just freshly arrived on my doorstep, brand new retail Z590 OC Formula. Thanks daddy @NickShih for the board and @Splave for including his 2nd reject Seepeeuuuu. Looking forward to play with these and compare the latest Formula with the competition.
    14 points
  2. Apparently CPU-z wasn't bin to win enough as is. So next are we gonna ban maxmem for memory frequency valids and require all mem channels instead of just 1?
    13 points
  3. Thought I'd let it go wild. A benchBIOS made by Hardware Hackers (me in particular). Been known by some for about 10 years. The thing is, I didn't add any features, it was all there done by Asus, I've just unlocked them and made some bench-related changes. List of changes: Based on latest 1024 beta Set by CMOS default: 1) No logo screen 2) Floppy disabled 3) IDE timeout = 0 4) Overclocking mode = manual 5) MPS 1.4 6) Timings set manually 7) Spread spectrum disabled 😎 Onboard devices = disabled 9) Speech POST reporter = disabled 10) USB timeout = 10sec
    11 points
  4. Reserved for more Stuff/Guides. --- There quite a few significant changes, however and below is a list that compares traditional expectations vs actual behavior of RKL: Traditional Expectations Actual RKL Behavior Memory and controller can only run in synch Memory and controller can run 1:1 or 1:2 Both odd and even DRAM ratios work Only DRAM odd ratios work for higher frequencies 100:100MHz base
    9 points
  5. Didn't realise this was an issue, it's been allowed for as long as I can remember, it's allowed for other benches so why wouldn't it be for this? Gives people a better chance of needing less binning, instead of 1 core holding back 7 good ones for example. If people really do care then having two categories is reasonable, but don't see any logic getting rid of the current one.
    8 points
  6. Roman you're a reasonable guy that makes informed decisions, that's why your NOT going to make CPUZ benchmark all cores/threads 1. the community has voted, you can go against this, but all that stuff you said about HWBOT saying community based goes out the window, you lose the right to say that anymore. regardless if its true or not, this looks like asusbot, thats not good for you, the community or asus 2. this looks really salty on the back of the gigabyte beating asus, regardless if its true or not, that's how everyone is interpreting it and thats fact 3. lets look at this log
    7 points
  7. so old rankings will be impossible to beat with CPUs that are impossible to validate as allcore with HT on? I see CPUz valid just like memory frequency, only goal is CPUz showing the frequency in the valid, no matter how that is achieved. Off course having a seperate category for allcore + ht valid would be fine I suppose.
    7 points
  8. I know I'm sorta double posting here but I want to make a separate post for the on-topic stuff rather than the discussion that needs cleaning. Some community-oriented reasons to stick with 1-core valids; OC is sold to people as "drag racing for computers" - doing everything possible in hardware to get the score, including disabling, makes sense The people who say "yeah but it's only on 1 core" will just say something else like "yeah but it's not stable" instead (a little over 30 tech site comments about giga's score were sifted through on discord and the only one that compla
    6 points
  9. Sorry to keep you waiting so long, need some time to process my VCRs. We all know, EP45 UD3R/UD3P are good boards to Core 2 Quard CPU for 500 FSB stability, but few OCer would like to use EP45/EP45T UD3 series for 700 FSB goal, they felt not so good, so as I did. Since Mr. GRIFF made 708 FSB by EP45 UD3P, I begin to pay more attention to these UD3 boards. After severals weeks, I found that UD3 boards were really good. Now, The most important point I want to say is, When CPU and NB are both with LN2 cooling, at least 50% of E0 stepping C2D E8X00 CPU can do 700 F
    5 points
  10. I love to see the discussion happening; this is what's great about the community. All are coming together to share insights and opinions with a bit of banter. Looking at both sides of the equation here, we can see both arguments and I want to touch on these. The all-out frequency method that's historical to Overclocking and embodies a core pillar of its meaning and the new world realities of hardware, stability and what happens behind the scenes to make it happen. We have the current method, which is historically accurate to overclocking: Maximum frequency, maximum volts, all th
    5 points
  11. Correct Mat, I compare CPUZ max Freq, by measuring the Horsepower of an engine on a testbench. On a track it can pop in under a lap. But plz finish the latest BenchMate before indulging in another project How about an added column in the CPUZ ranking? Is that a feasable solution for all parties ?
    5 points
  12. Okay so we had some interesting discussions especially on discord and we can see how this goes and what you guys want. Will give it some more time
    5 points
  13. We are looking into it, Programmer identified it as a Java script issue as it still works on good old Internet Explorer, it's in the pipeline for tomorrow. Also on his plate at the moment: Preparing to merge all the "with BenchMate scores" as soon as Mat is done with his latest build of BenchMate, We need to get that all done in a forenoon to limit outage of the BOT. My job will be less fun fixing the doubles, bugged ranking,... Tim also needs to finish the new wrapper, so we can implement the new score system with far less load on the database server. Last UBUNTU update,
    5 points
  14. Make it simple. Install XP, make general tweaks (critical ones are - /maxmem=600 (in boot.ini), largesystemcache 1 and disablepagingexecutive 1 (in regedit)). Reboot. Copy superpi executable to desktop. Copy ocxspitweaker folder somewhere and send shortcut of tweaker to desktop. Now open superpi and make ready for 32M run, open OCXtweaker and run C>D waza of 1400MB (tick "exit after execution", sleep time of 0 seconds). 30 seconds after tweaker completes wazza and closes itself, run 32m. That's it, 95% of OS efficiency is there. RAMdisk, theme tweaks etc aren't really essential (
    4 points
  15. Well..... If this is an arguement that's based on whether a bencher is sponsored or one of the "In-House" guys, it doesn't have alot behind it. There are some here that can get results similar to or even beat these guys while doing it on their own dime like I have to do for anything I do, regardless of how it turns out. Money, although it DOES make alot of difference isn't the only variable in play here, some do have the skill and determination (Insanity?) to make it happen. While it is true those guys have a real, inherent advantage it's not the end-all as some make it out to be.
    4 points
  16. My main concern here is that if there ever comes another 8Ghz capable architecture on it's way that we can't do what we did back with bulldozer, ie. in theory we could have a architecrure that clocks the same but due to all core rule scores will be low. Right now you're right it doesn't matter as CPUs don't clock high enough for globals, but this whole thing sounds like something with the potential to screw over 8G benchers like myself wayyyy down the road Allso it's bad enough if CPU-Z is harder than some benches on old stuff, really don't like seeing it the same on new stuff, as i
    4 points
  17. Product not yet released, but already a reject
    4 points
  18. Not released yet but people already sell them on forums, great job Intel, looks loke a smooth-sailing company....
    4 points
  19. easy to sell at that price: "Don't want to reveal all backups but it does easily over 2200MHz GPUPI Price: 350€"
    3 points
  20. Let's see if the project is still compilable, especially since Qt support for XP has dropped a long time ago. What is the Crew's take on this, should I add a 'legacy' option for such hardware, clearly marked in UI?
    3 points
  21. He was asking for me. He has more clout.
    3 points
  22. After re-binned my P45 mobo and idle E8 CPU for weeks, I found a holy new and amazing world of raw FSB freq. You can refresh your mobo and CPU wish lists after I submit some results and VCRs, just wait a minute :P
    3 points
  23. 5min 7sec 890ms work in progress https://hwbot.org/submission/4720358_
    3 points
  24. Just my 2 cents or maybe 4 as the post is longer. not evaluating what has been and what will be but more looking at the hardware aspects as i also commented on a great video made by Buildzoid in the same line of thought. I completely agree with the aspect of simply measuring cpuz and get it validated for a single core. Binned or not it shows a great complexity to be able to overclock up to 7 - 9 Ghz range on any CPU. Congratulations to those who managed and hold the records. I also congratulate the manufacturers of both CPU and Motherboards and memory who made it possible. Having e
    3 points
  25. All this doesn't solve the question "But can it run Crysis at that frequency?", so why bother? I'm all for leaving it as is and don't make things more complicated. CPU-Z doesn't even show what each core is running at, it has to be modified to suit that need and I agree with others that mentioned big.LITTLE and all other complications. PS: I stand corrected, it apparently does now. It shows when I've last "benched" cpuz Technically that's not possible Rest of the cores in the same CCD will have much higher frequency. I think the maximum difference is 800MHz or so
    3 points
  26. Is it feasible to have 2 different rankings for cpu-z max validation ? One all out single core balls to the walls quick validation Liquid helium / Ln2 allowed and another one for all cores active ht/smt enable + some stability test added on whatever cooling allows ? In my humble opinion that should keep everyone happy.
    3 points
  27. Another argument for allowing to disable / downclock cores: continuity and simplicity of rules. Imagine a new person trying to submit a score in 2021 and having to learn about differences in rules for pre-2010 and post-2010 hardware? Perhaps a separate hardware point category for all-cores-same-clock would suffice? It's not like there aren't hundreds of these already per each piece of hardware.
    3 points
  28. its great to see oc hasn't changed i come here with good intentions to represent what those close to me and i feel is important, and within an hour the owner of the site and some random have had a go at me i cant remember pj ever personally attacking anyone before, i guess everyone has their own styles of management
    3 points
  29. Like coming to a competition with a motorcycle with sidecar and complaining the other ones should do the same, instead of getting of it all the unnecesarry stuff, and be light.
    3 points
  30. The good thing is that we don't need a poll to decide this. I already talked to Albrecht last week to tell him we will not allow CPU-Z submissions anymore with disabled cores. We are currently thinking of when exactly we are going to enforce this rule. If already starting from this Gen or next one. You can give opinion on this if you want. But for the future Only full cores + HT will be accepted. Everything else is just nonsense on a technical level.
    3 points
  31. Hello, after a few days of testing/trying here's the final ISO + TIBx for Z490 ISO: https://mega.nz/file/MJZB2CoA#uPgJY8HNq4Y2mCIuNLrk3ApwOsvo437pqvVpOLAn3hE TIBx for Acronis 2020: https://mega.nz/file/BUx2yDyB#mIU3OjDxmlipnDAkD5UrMceCJhFVl90x5NMR8VgZlew This ISO based on WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL SP3 X86 - INTEGRAL EDITION 2020.9.9: http://www.zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems/123-windows-xp-professional-sp3-x86-integral-edition includes lots of patches for modern hardware which improves perfomance of modern CPU's and lots of other. Additionaly integrated:
    3 points
  32. hi! i upload my little collection files. including AOpen, ABIT, Shuttle, DFI, FIC, Acorp, and other former manufacturers. GOOGLE DRIVE
    3 points
  33. After some works, finally get 700 FSB validation https://hwbot.org/submission/4703644 Platform can do 680 FSB Pi 1M all by air cooling. PL value reading is wrong, it's 11 actually, not 1
    3 points
  34. The BenchMate categories only exist for automatic uploading from within BenchMate. It's a technical issue, because some of the old categories (Super PI, wPrime, ...) do not support the HWBOT submission API. So yes, you can just take the screenshot and upload it to other (matching) categories. See BenchMate as additional proof for a valid score.
    2 points
  35. XOC bios would be a heaven sent 👍 , no power limits would be awesome !. Since amd is letting his tight grip down , let's hope something good comes in the not so distant near future.
    2 points
  36. Bought 1 chip retail. 5325mhz at 1.359v (1.45v LLC5) and Max 75 degrees in r15. SP 99
    2 points
  37. making this thread for future posters btw you can remove microcode from Z590 bioses with MMTool same as you can with Z490 not sure if it only affects Comet Lake or not Here's F5a for the Tachyon with microcode removed, I'd like for someone here to try with vs without on a Comet Lake and a Rocket Lake chip in Geek 3 and Cine R20. Keep in mind you'll probably still need to use that patch exe thing in OS that was used for Z490. F5a_microcode_removed.rom
    2 points
  38. The first VCR: E8600 + EP45 UD3R, 710 FSB post on screen, all by air cooling! In fact, can do max 715 FSB boot on air ;D and somethings big are coming soon
    2 points
  39. IMHO it would be best to behave like original Aquamark - set default settings on auto but when hardware can't make it, lower down to it's capabilities. So you can't lower settings below default for capable hardware (like things are now) but so you can run it on older hardware with lowered settings by Aqua itself. I'll provide any help I can to fix this, just PM me.
    2 points
  40. That would be a good option. If possible able to fix the datafile size too, users either had to run with systeminfo off and/or reduce the screen resolution before saving. Otherwise the API would reject the file
    2 points
  41. can we have the points from last year yet
    2 points
  42. I'd be glad to see nothing ever change with pre-existing benchmarks and rules. When rules stay the same you can get an apple-to-apples comparison generation after generation. If we're going to change stuff, let's change it all back the way it used to be. No seasons, no sliding scales, points is points, is points, the highest score wins. I see and like the thought behind requiring all cores and HT be enabled. That is a better way and ideally it would have been like that from the start. I don't use my computers with cores disabled or HT disabled. I bench my systems the way I use them. I th
    2 points
  43. I hope my post is safe. But so far it seems the community wants things to stay how they are. Max Freq = Max Freq Just an idea, introduce this All Core Max Freq as a Beta, Lord knows there is some not so great benches already in Beta, and see if people actually try or participate in it.
    2 points
  44. Just thought I'd pop in again to say love the drama, AU guys never disappoint. One of the few times I'm agreeing with the AU side, although I didn't realise the Giga vs Asus thing, it's all luck of the draw with binning chips from intel, not about the board I think but people like to fight over stupid stuff so I say let them Also whilst I agree with 1 and 3 from pro, you could do with looking at the way you come across and maybe tweak it if you want people to take you seriously. Telling people what they're going to do, stating opinions as facts, just being plain rude etc
    2 points
  45. Yep, spot on, imagine the drama we will experience once the new points are here.... we need to upgrade the forum probably 😛
    2 points
  46. When Intel goes with the big.LITTLE with Alder Lake next gen on the mainstream platform, do we know how that's going to affect frequencies and stuff, as reported by CPU-Z? And/or, how might it be affected next year by these potential rule changes to CPU-Z validation? So, somewhat related to the third question of this poll, if the little cores don't/can't clock as high as the big cores, wouldn't that sort of effectively be like the situation where you're running some cores at lower frequencies (if not disabled entirely)?
    2 points
  47. I'm waiting for the Ti for sure...
    2 points
  48. My guide + iso + tibx for XP x86 on Z490. Hopefully it helps and save your time:
    2 points
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