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  1. --- For Ambient behavior and DDR5 Voltage Basics there is already a perfect guide by Falkentyne in the ASUS ROG forum -> LINK -- - BCLK Buttons On the new Apex there are BCLK +/- Buttons For the onboard bclk buttons you will need to manually enable them in bios/tweakers paradise - Measurement Points - LN2 CBB -150c to none CB mostly none (no rsvd switch needed) No need to specifically set pll term or cpu standy (don’t seem to help cbb) The cpus must have some kind of pll bug when cold whereby they can all of a sudden keep upping frequency limitlessly, like the pll is capped at a certain freq: To avoid this pls use FLL OC Mode normal! Bear in mind limitations of fivr rail, 1.6v~ before they trip. Set vccin to 2.0v or so for enough input voltage to feed high fivr output rails. Disable all CEP for best perf As starting point set the LN2 Jumper on Mainboard, cool down to -100C Basic LN2 Settings are: Ratio 55 Cache 40 Vcore: 1.65 - 1.75+ CPU Input Voltage: 2.0 Core PLL Voltage 1.00500 Ring PLL Voltage: 1.00500 PLL Termination Voltage: 1.300 CPU Standby Voltage: 1.300 CPU Input Voltage Reset Voltage: 1.8 -- BIOS FLASHBACK PORT Red marked is the BIOS FLASHBACK PORT, Rename your File to MZ690A.CAP before flashing. -- Tools - Worktool ADL 1106 https://www.dropbox.com/s/bvs9qltshctnpct/OCTool_ADL1106.zip?dl=0 - TurboV Core 1.10.19 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ANYEEvk_785Nn7Sa4Y9dE5KYcBWFVQsW/view?usp=sharing - MemTweakIt https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rj4Qi2Aas-oG95adOdD1NngYSFvDNzLB/view?usp=sharing - ROG True Voltician 0902 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nOL9uBRM8Lu64SVZv85qiGAylOrnRQ2R/view?usp=sharing -- Legacy Tools - WinXP Ratio Tool https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBq4ezPSiXS7rkddwjc6-7A8kg6KG_5m/view?usp=sharing - 590 ACPI Files (work on Z690) (credits go out to OGS) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixh046p92cc8pwf/winxp_acpi.zip?dl=0 -- BIOS 0096 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wo3Vg1EMY3Q_o1iV7QDMYg_UapxTrZ7n/view?usp=sharing 0702 https://www.dropbox.com/s/rf7kdc3pilpyrk8/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0702.rar?dl=0
    17 points
  2. Just an update on what we have in mind for the points ( Hardware and Global ones ) Maximum of 150 Globals no matter how popular the hardware is. If we have less than 100 subs, maximum will be 100 Globals, for less than 50 submissions maximum will be 50... Less bigger jumps between the top 5 (10-5-3-2) --> some will not like this for sure. Dumping the complex algorithms, the idea is to have fixed designated points for each spot. Points no longer depending on how fast the nr 1 score is. Dumping the 70% cutoff. From spot 21 each position will go down with 0.2-0.3 points. Minimum points will be locked at 2 points. Hardware points difference will be less drastic as you can see, but we try to establish the same idea that each position corresponds with fixed points. Goal is to make the point system more rewarding for a bigger amount of benchers. Lesser calculations are required by the database, thus resulting in a faster HWBot and becoming less error prone.
    12 points
  3. ASRock: Bios Z690 Aqua OC 1.52 ASUS: Worktool ADL 1106 Worktool ADL 1121 TurboV Core 1.10.19 MemTweakIt ROG True Voltician 1021 Legacy Tools WinXP Ratio Tool 590 ACPI Files (work on Z690) (credits go out to OGS) BIOS (thx to Noizemaker) APEX 0096 APEX 0702 FORMULA 0702 HERO 0702 EXTREME 0702 APEX 0802 FORMULA 0802 HERO 0802 EXTREME 0802 Beta Bios 0803 at this link STRIX-Z690-A Gaming-Wifi-D4 0006 eVGA: Gigabyte: MSI: Dragonball 10.0.08 DragonPower 10.0.6 Z690-AQUA-OC_1_52_NK09.ROM.zip ROG-STRIX-Z690-A-GAMING-WIFI-D4-ASUS-0006.7z
    8 points
  4. ---- 0006 BIOS https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GNmRlIYIkbmTtQ6CPaeJZnAIQ0Sr2qQV/view 0002 BIOS https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aJbLLEgvWvmMrBxG2CzOrng0NVm_hdQ1/view 0003 BIOS Samsung B-DIE SR / DR MEMORY OC improvement https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yZ2HTdNaAd0vDetKMEbp34LbKlZe-lMB/view?usp=sharing 0803 (26.11.21) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y0Kt-gwp3cu6dpiZKzGbZHSVbj2YxQmi/view ---- Results/Tests from safedisk 8G X2 B-DIE 1T 15-14-14-28 4333 AIDA64 Latency 40.4ns 16G X2 B-DIE 2T 14-15-14-28 4000 HCI Run
    8 points
  5. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 Series Beta Bios 0801 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance 2. Update microcode C-0 Stepping ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO BETA BIOS 0801 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA BETA BIOS 0801 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BETA BIOS 0801 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0801 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690 Series Beta Bios 0801 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance 2. Update microcode C-0 Stepping ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0801 ROG STRIX Z690-I GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0801
    7 points
  6. Why mandate anything for the single-threaded benchmarks? You want to run Pi 32M, it's your choice if you want to run it on P core, on E core, disable E cores, run single channel...whatever it works for you, the goal is to get best score possible with your system from the current bench session. Then sub it in the base (normal) category (no P, no E, no X category). IMO only one category should exist for benches like SuperPi, pifast, etc. If you want to run it with all cores enabled and get lower clocks, it's your choice, why we should care about that? That's what I fail to understand :p I guess it is down to implementation, since they are listed as different processors and each processor has the full set of benchmarks? I'm not that active anymore, so I've probably missed a lot form the ongoing discussions, so please excuse me if you read that same thing for the n-th time :d
    6 points
  7. Max 50 hardware points for hardware with over 100 submissions, max 25 sub 100. Does that sound feasible ? Maybe we can add a 3rd less than than 50 submissions : 15 points That's the big question. Tim has not touched any algorithm or such , he's designing a new front end, call it a wrapper that only requires the ranking from the current old version and will apply the new point algorithm. Front page is already done, now he's looking into the different categories. Its not easy for him to understand as it mostly does not seem logic to him regarding the things we need to have displayed yes or no. If he shows it someday on his local system I'll try to take to some screenies We hope to have it done in Q1
    6 points
  8. Update: I didn't resist πŸ˜„
    5 points
  9. Macrium image of this OS uploade on mega.nz https://mega.nz/file/KaIyDDRI#DP2J1vq9YNDJ4owYnAfZdipHmkTXUOJbHu-Jo5dhUFc password for 7z archive is: HWbot2021
    4 points
  10. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 Series Beta Bios 0803 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690 Series Beta Bios 0803 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690-E GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690-G GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 ROG STRIX Z690-I GAMING WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 TUF GAMING Z690 Series Beta Bios 0803 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS BETA BIOS 0803 TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS D4 BETA BIOS 0803 TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI BETA BIOS 0803 TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 BETA BIOS 0803
    4 points
  11. - Worktool ADL 1121 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yl9u16jwks1u4hs/AACj4OkONqawd0KZUIg2sHa9a/OC_Tool/OCTool_ADL1121.zip - ROG True Voltician 1021 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yl9u16jwks1u4hs/AABqfeDSZ2MWgEwoB2VJy9Fua/True_Voltician/ROG_True_Voltician_V1.0.2.1.zip?dl=0
    4 points
  12. I agree single-threaded benchmarks should go into one single category. 32M is always ran on the best core anyway. I though overclocking goes hand in hand with getting the best score/performance possible out of the the hardware in a specific benchmark/game. For single-threaded benchmarks it means you want to disable everything that affects the clocks and performance in a negative way. Leaving all 6 cores on a Thuban CPU hurts CPU-NB clocks compared to e.g. 2 cores enabled, does that mean we should add another category and assign points for both? And I still don't get these P categories. For me it's all out on multi-threaded benchmarks for highest possible score, not artificially pushing the CPUs to categories with less cores, just because they are more competitive there (at least that's how it looks from "a distance"). I know it's not just black and white, but still can't get my head around that, sorry.
    4 points
  13. ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0072.rar
    4 points
  14. Hello. I would like to share my colection of hardware I started colection as fun project to OC old hardware, but after cleaning and testing i put them back into box, because i'm scared of destroying them. 😭 Down below list of my stuff + some photo. MOBO ASUS Maximus Extreme (2) X38 Rampage Extreme x48 Rampage II Extreme x58 Rampage III Extreme x58 Rampage IV Extreme x79 Rampage V Extreme x99 Rampage VI Apex x299 Maximus V Formula z77 Maximus IX Apex (2) z270 Maximus X Apex z370 Maximus XI Apex z390 Maximus XII Apex z490 Maximus XIII Apex z590 Crosshair nForce 590 SLi Crosshair II Formula nForce 780a SLI Crosshair III Formula (2) 790FX Crosshair IV Extreme 890FX Crosshair V Formula 990FX Crosshair VIII Impact x570 MSI MSI P35 platinum MSI Z87 Mpower Max (2) MSI Z87 Xpower MSI Z97 Mpower Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 GA-X58A-OC GA-Z77x-UP7 GA-Z87X-OC Force GA-Z97X-SOC Force GA-X99-SOC Champion EVGA nForce 780i SLI X299 Dark FOXCONN FLAMING BLADE X58 GPU Asus 8800 GTS (320Mb) 9600GT (Lady) 9600GT Matrix 9800GT Matrix 9800GX2 GTX 260 3x Asus GTX 260 MAtrix GTX 285 Matrix 2x ok ,1x ded GTX590 (x2) GTX 760 Striker Asus x1950 XT HD4850 Matrix (2) HD4850 HD5870 Matrix Plat (2) HD 6990 HD7970 Matrix Plat R9 290x Matrix Plat GV-N26OC-896H-B GA-6870-SOC GA-460-SOC GA-470-SOC GA-GTX480 GA-GTX680-SOC Sapphire X1950 Pro Sapphire HD2600 XT Ultimate Sapphire HD3870 Ultimate Sapphire HD4850 Sapphire HD4850x2 Sapphire HD4870x2 Sapphire HD4870 Sapphire HD4870 Toxic Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 Sapphire HD5970 (2) Gainward 4870 Gainward Bliss GTX 260 GS 216SP Gainward 9800GTX+ EVGA GTX 260 EVGA GTX 980 SC EVGA GTX 690 N7600GT MSI N260GTX TwinFrozr OC (2) MSI GTX 295 (x2) MSi NX7900 gto Msi 6870 Hawk msi 460 hawk Msi 7950 OC/BE MSI 5770 Hawk (x2) GTX 750Ti PALIT XpertVision GeForce 8800GTX CPU AMD AMD Athlon 64 3400+ AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+, AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+, AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+, AMD Phenom X4 9650, AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE, AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE, AMD Phenom II X2 560 BE, AMD Phenom II X4 960T, UNLOCK X6 FX8370 INTEL Pentium D 915, Pentium E5700, C2D E6700, C2D E6750, C2D E6850, C2D E8400, C2D E8400, Xeon x3430, XEON X5570, i3-530, I7-920, I7-920, I7-950, I7-960, I7-960, I7-975, i7-4930K, i7-5930K, i7-7700K, i7-8700K, i7-8086K, i7-9900K, i7-9900KF, C2Q Q6600, C2Q Q6700, C2Q Q9300, C2Q Q9550, (2) C2E QX6700, 2500K, 2600K, 3770K, G3258, G3258, 4670K, 4690K, 4790K,
    4 points
  15. Up for sale are some great hardware at low prices. I accept paypal only non cc as payment. Please read the descriptions before you buy it. Paypal only as friend or buyer pays PP fees + buyer pays the shipping. No trolling , no low balls , no returns. , this sale is international. My Heatware feedback 100% positive seller. long time member. - https://www.heatware.com/u/86369/to 1. Asus tuf rtx 3070 shunt moded + Full Cover water block + stock air cooler = $875 description - Low usage on my secondary rig , working perfect like brand new , video card has been shunt moded to lift the low power limit imposed by nvidia , no more power limits problems. Byski full cover water block is installed but i will also ship the stock air cooler. Tested working 100% pictures and video taken for my safety of the video card working. 2.Combo 11600k + asrock steel legend z590 mobo + gift FREE corsair nvme h20 water block = $335 description - Low usage on my secondary rig , working like brand new , motherboard comes in original box with all the accesories included. FREE gift corsair nvme h2o water block ( Brand New and never used ) 3.Combo 10900k + gift corsair nvme h2o block = $289 description - cpu 10900k in great condition working 100% , FREE gift corsair nvme h2o water block ( Brand New and never used ) 4.Combo 3400G + asus strix gaming B350 + 16gb kit oloy ddr4-3000 + adata xpg sx8200 nvme 480gb = $195 description - It was used as my htpc for some time , wonderful combo for low power usage PC , Motherboard was used twice under Phase change before it became my htpc and might have tiny residue of kneaded eraser and vaseline other wise working 100% perfectly , comes with io shield only. Oloy 2x8gb ddr4-3000Mhz works perfectly on this set up , Adata XPG SX8200 480gb nvme working great and erased / sanitized using Asus motherboard in bios nvme erase program. 5.Combo 11700 + Asus Tuf Gaming b460 wifi + 16gb kit oloy ddr4 3000 + intel 1TB nvme with a nice beefy custom heatsink to keep it at low temps = $250 description - I build this PC for my son for gaming but since he started university the pc has not been used and there is no more used on my house for it. Low usage. Motherboard comes on original box and most accesories included , io shield is included. cpu working 100% same as the memory and nvme. Perfect combo for a gaming pc just add a nice gpu.**PS the components still on the case+** Case nor heatsink fans for cpu included ! Low prices i do not do scalping , hardware at very low price when compared with ebay prices and newegg. Everything tested and 100% working.
    4 points
  16. Video up ! @chispy @unityofsaints @Leeghoofd @Obijuan83
    4 points
  17. They boot, but don't know how good they work. Unify-X still supports them in the latest official bios on the site. No official support announced on the site, but the modules are clearly there and I've tested 1800X and 1600AF on some of the older bioses. IIRC there were some options missing and the support is basic.
    3 points
  18. https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo8vjs06d4ozm6c/APEX93.rar?dl=0
    3 points
  19. Hello all, I have a few items to put up for sale. Payment via paypal. Prices include shipping to US48. Open to reasonable offers, and discounts on package deals. I can do international shipping at buyers expense, but probably not on the gpus. Please pm me to discuss international options and prices. EVGA epower gen4 (red pcb) new unused in original box. $75 EVGA epower gen4 (red pcb) new unused, modded for vgpu with display by mllrkllr88. $75 Six 8800 gts 320mb bundle. Never got around to binning these, so no OC info. All cards testing working with 1 loop heaven basic. $100 Asus reference GTX 780ti, with XSPC fullcover block and backplate. Pulled from my gaming rig. Just put a fresh application of kryonaut on it. Currently has modified skynet bios flashed on it for 1255/1900mhz which is how I ran it daily. https://www.3dmark.com/tsst/2378976 $170
    3 points
  20. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 Series Beta Bios 0803 UPDATE 1. Improve system performance ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0803 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL BETA BIOS 0803
    3 points
  21. It's in the human nature to explain things you don't understand with something else - aliens, god, cheaters, etc.
    3 points
  22. Up for sale is one AMD Ryzen 9 5950x , used , no box , cpu only. Working perfectly and tested 100% . Low usage. Fastest socket AM4 Ryzen cpu right now. Low price. Paypal only as friend or buyer pays PP fees + buyer pays the shipping. No trolling , no low balls , no returns. Heatware Feedback 100% Positive , long time member - https://www.heatware.com/u/86369/to Price: $625US Dollars
    3 points
  23. Some results on my tests on this awesome board, my last favour for gskill, it is time to move on... Three different kits, this board is like a tank
    3 points
  24. Tim uploaded his early wrappers to the uat.hwbot.org test site. Normally this site is like way slower than the daily one, really feels more responsive. Take note: The site is not getting new submissions, so the front page is empty till you submit something on uat. A lot of work still has to be done and the point calculation has not been touched yet. Also images do not load on the uat version Some feedback I already provided on some of the new pages:
    3 points
  25. I used ICs with same organisation and density so this kind of replacement is safest. It could require timings mod but as i was swapping for better IC, didn't need to flash bios with looser timings. Next step is 9200se 64bit. I wish to solder some hynix hy5du121622ctp-d43 (taken from usual memory module) - they have same width (16 bit - each ic, total of 4 ic) but x2 density of the stock card. I think it will also work without bios replacement but in worst case scenario I can try flashing bios of 256mb card (there are 2 256mb bioses from giga and sapphire @tpu). Otherwise it should just use 2 banks of 4 and be detected as 128mb (though 256mb will physically be present).
    3 points
  26. it has been added, contains 3 loops of 7 tests, first one is very slow, loop 2 and 3 are way faster, though will take up 15-25 minutes of your time, even on fast storage...
    3 points
  27. Thank you, only u have one wrong message BIOS flashback "Rename your File to M13A.CAP before flashing." Propably not, right?:D
    3 points
  28. It's coring down. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Nobody is fooling anybody here.
    3 points
  29. It's not the same comparison bro. HWBots own rules, you can core up but not core down. Right now, you are coring down these new chips.
    3 points
  30. ASrock Timing Configurator for Z690
    2 points
  31. Looks like you can push boards which are capable of 250MHz 32M to new heights, when you use the right settings and romsips 😁 Not sure the board has anything left in it, but this was literally the first (and only) try to achieve such a high fsb. I made use of the Auto Validation Bot which is implemented in the newest release of the (awesome!) nForce2XT tweaker made by @I.nfraR.ed. Great tool and such a timesaver when working my way up through the FSB range.
    2 points
  32. It's called RAM. Maybe is's been Crucial Ballistix 667.
    2 points
  33. Link verification rules have been dropped for 05/06 since end of May, always check the latest rules J
    2 points
  34. Here πŸ˜€ https://www.dropbox.com/s/fz901pz7aiv2ddk/ROG-STRIX-Z690-I-GAMING-WIFI-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0
    2 points
  35. ROG MAXIMUS Z690 Series Beta Bios 0802 1. fixed the adaptive voltage interpolation issue on 0801 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO BETA BIOS 0802 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hvru699pc93hhk4/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 FORMULA BETA BIOS 0802 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ugvl9m7uvr6kzrw/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-FORMULA-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 APEX BETA BIOS 0802 https://www.dropbox.com/s/sifhbj1ch93g05f/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME BETA BIOS 0802 https://www.dropbox.com/s/2hw663oa3qlge6q/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-EXTREME-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0 ROG MAXIMUS Z690 EXTREME GLACIAL BETA BIOS 0802 https://www.dropbox.com/s/uucb51r4rfk0ixq/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-EXTREME-GLACIAL-ASUS-0802.rar?dl=0
    2 points
  36. Well with logic we have sometimes our problems here. Even I struggle sometimes, after all those years (ok this might be a problem I have in general). I always thought one of the unwritten rules was to don't create extra categories for the same named hardware even when some new revision brings new features like 64 bit or a die shrink. We always said its up to the overclocker benching with the best silicon available. Now having two categories for single thread results just because something is disabled or enabled pretty much breaks the mentioned logic. I always thought those new categories are just an intermediate step because of the limitations of the current code but if they keep existing in parallel I'm lost. Its okay to try something new with the hybrid stuff but please consider merging base and p cores categories when code is ready and let the user choose upon submission entering if he disabled e cores so the submission goes into e.g. 8 or 16 cores category just like unlocking a Phenom X2 goes into 3 or 4 cores hardware category.
    2 points
  37. ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0073 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0khsv7kzupci5hg/ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-APEX-ASUS-0073.rar?dl=0
    2 points
  38. Anything NVMe Gen 4 will reach up to 5K, most will be mid 4K Optane 900P Gen 3 will hit 6K Optane P5800X will hit 9K Latency is weighed heavily. No weight on max sequential speed. I posted a few different drives and only one drive shows up.
    2 points
  39. In the trash where it belongs
    2 points
  40. I provide enough information and my submissions usually meet minimal requirements. Join discord channels (hwbot and ussr_over) for a bit more details. I have no will to write the same thing too many times - if you really need some input just PM me.
    2 points
  41. You could import the root certificates manually. My new certificate was issued by SSL.com: https://www.ssl.com/article/ssl-com-root-certificates/ You can also export it from your Windows 7 and import to your Server 2012.
    2 points
  42. Hi Guys, after learning so much on forum, I wanted to share some insight with you on a GTX555 OEM Power Card, that I created for testing purposes. While not delivering a punch, this Power Card runs off of 12V only with no need to add extra +3.3V or +5V voltages. The VMem Controller is a APW8725a that needs no modding, it is just running even after the cut and deliveres 1.4V The VCore Controller is a NCP5388 that I VID-modded to 1.03V On the backside of the card, you need to connect one of the VCore Input Phases as this was fed originally by the PCI Express. Maybe someone has a use-case for this If you want to know more, or need better explanations/pictures, let me know!
    2 points
  43. In my own storage drive. I store a couple thousand bios's for older hardware.
    2 points
  44. Use "the backup on USB drive comment" Alex
    2 points
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