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  1. I get the fees are high to operate, but I'd think ever little bit helps.. just like 0.2 points/sub as a min.... :) over time/volume it adds up. 233k+ members on the bot, say 5,000 are active, $10ea, $50k/year in funds to help with either HW/Coding/Fees. Then you can get help. Rookies get 3 months free to get the benching bug, then as they start getting/buying HW the $10 will be moot as this is/can be an expensive hobby. I know money can't fix everything, and I know you not accepting money from us means you owe us nothing. I (and many) do appreciate all the effort you and the remainder of your team put in, including the iceberg under the water we don't see. But to some extent, some people here do want to hold you accountable on some sort of moral level. That part is immeasurable I'm the cheapest bastard I know, me suggesting a small fee and agreeing with it is a big statement for me. But this place is worth it, the effort you put in is worth it. Vin
    5 points
  2. The 10 bucks debate has been done a few times over the years. Issue is that some just want to pay to keep the site alive, others think they bought a 50% share and start asking for removal of benchmarks, start to interfere with moderation/competition setups,... I need to dig up the thread where you can donate freely to Fred's paypal addy to reduce costs... At the moment the BOT is a ship with major problems and the 3-4 man crew is trying to keep first the boat afloat. Secondly steer it away from the incoming iceberg and last but not least in the mean time still find energy to save some out of the water... Everybody knows what the issues are, biggest problem is how to resolve all these in a short period as possible. Fixing is one thing, though the algorithm and co have become so complex as Strunkenbold explained, it looks more like fix one thing break two... Frederik is trying to get most stuff sorted after his daily job is done and keep this in mind we are all volunteers, doing this in our free time and totally for free... Thx to Michael for helping me out once in a while...
    1 point
  3. who wants to try run coffelake on the M8i you can try the following flash bios: --> Bios 3801 (Mod Coffeelake Microcode) Nb : Flash bios using CH314a flasher do not try flashing through bios_flashback overalls work well (without any problems) : - IGP working - PCIEX x16 - Overclocking : Ratio Core, Cache and memory (all running normally) For 4core usage (eg: 8350K) do not need mod pin cpu. For 6core usage (eg 8600K and 8700K) need to do cpu mod pin (like cpu mod in MOCF) Here's the submission validation CPU-Z : use 8350K --> http://valid.x86.fr/hmpnfm use 8600K --> https://valid.x86.fr/aa73ih for other submissions can be viewed on my profile : HexaOC Powered By : Hexatekno.com
    1 point
  4. Fascinating... I can count on one hand the number of TEAMS here that bench for & fight for their TEAM, most other members here at Bot bench solely for them-SELF points/rankings and to hell with their team. Prove me wrong... And that is just fine for them. So Out of pure curiosity; What is the sudden interest in TEAM points/rankings. Hmmmmm. It has been mostly catering to crying individual benchers here anyway again nothing wrong with that, if thats their thing so be it. However why go after TEAMS points/rankings? Some individuals here can not compete on a one to one basis on the higher levels so they focus on and contribute to their TEAM the only way they can. And you want to again... Kill the concept of TEAM as it has been attempted before in the past. If the TEAM PP have been the same way all these years and no one had a complaint about it before why change it? I do understand if the BenchMark was completely removed from Bott.
    1 point
  5. Yeesh people need to chill. Also as a side note, if benches no longer have normal points for a reason (buggy/cheated etc), makes sense for them to not have team points either, but if the points have been removed simply to 'balance' the main rankings (not too 2d/3d heavy etc) then I don't see a problem. I still blame Massman for pointing the ship in a certain direction then leaving it
    1 point
  6. If you want to keep TPP alive for all benchmark's, you will need to delete those bench's from the website. Some of those bench's got points disabled for a reason. Keeping points alive would mean we have to moderate those results though we explicitly disabled points for them. Those benchmark's should have no impact on any ranking, actually don't even give cups.
    1 point
  7. When you remove a benchmark , like lets say UCBench or PcMark ... or whatever , you do it for a reason. Because the benchmark is vulnerable not bullet proof or for any other reason. Example Team A , benches legally with default settings and gets as top spot , rank 100 and team B benches with altered batch size and gets ranking 1 ... is that consided fair ? You wanna keep TPP for such cases ? When a benchmark is out of hwbot point system ... its out , period. Keep the position rankings for history purposes , but deleted all kind of points. I agree with you.
    1 point
  8. You wanna see the real team standings, remove TPP from all inactive users after say, 2 years of inactivity.
    1 point
  9. youre welcome, least im honest and im right to , i know you blokes have had a rough time of it but seems to be 1 thing after the other that other people are complaining about, and i wouldnt want to be lumped with you or your team zero, if youre any example of it
    1 point
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