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  1. Hey there I hope everyone is doing good so far and you had a decent start into 2021. As you've probably seen there is some movement right now with our coder understanding more and more how things work on the bot. Albrecht is in good contact with him and I'm sure we're getting there. Right now our priority is still to fix stuff which is not working and work on the most important updates. There are few things I want to address quickly: Benchmark Updates: Albrecht created a power point for us to see what kind of changes the community wants to see regarding benchmarks. Personally I'm totally open and we can just follow whatever the community wants to see. You guys eventually have to play on the field so you can also give feedback on it. Finances: Financially we currently have costs of about 4000€ per month which we have to cover somehow. I'm not trying to earn any money of this project and just want to keep it alive and improve things if possible. About 900-1000 € per month is the hosting cost right now to pay domains and keep the servers running. The rest is to pay the coder and the taxes/health insures and all this stuff we have to pay for him. I'm trying to be as transparent as possible. Besides that there are no additional costs we have to cover at this point. There are multiple ways we can cover the ~4000€. At a certain point we will try to form partnerships again with e.g. G.Skill, ASUS, Intel or whoever wants to join. Right now as long as the site is not 100% fixed we will just try to get some parts back by hosting competitions but also due to corona it's very difficult to see how things evolve with Computex and so on. As I mentioned in my initial Post from earlier 2020 I'm going to set up a Patreon page for HWBot within this week and hope that some can help us keeping this project alive. Thinking about how much we all spend on hardware and LN2 per month I hope we can find some guys to donate monthly in a range of like 10-25€. I hope we can cover some good part of our cost this way and stay independent. Nothing of this will be mandatory and you will not get benefits for donating. Well you can have fun on here which is a cool thing I guess Annual Ranking - Overclocker League 2021/2022/2023...: Albrecht told me there is a good interesting in keeping an annual ranking which is also fine to me. Eike and me will change the way this ranking works to make it more interactive, easier to understand for newcomers. More details on this once we have tested our idea. Tweaking/Cheating: This is probably the only part where we're taking a decision some of you might hate but this is also a major part for constant trouble in our community. As long as I've been part of OC this always lead to drama, confusion and anger. The general issue is that we have to decide which part is considered a cheat and which part is considered a tweak. Objectively speaking both things are pretty much the same. In an ideal world all overclockers would tweak their hardware and press start on benchmarks instead of finding every loophole to somehow receive a higher score even though the hardware is still performing on the same level. We all know this is never going to happen because overclockers are overclockers. If there is a grey zone or a loophole it will always be used (I did the same in the past) Right now we have such complex rules and have to use tools such as benchmate because we all made our own lifes harder and harder every single year. Instead of adding a new rule every few weeks to limit the damage we will take a different approach: Only tweaks which are known to moderators will be allowed. If there is a new tweak which has not been discussed with moderators and it is used it will automatically be considered cheating followed by a temporary or permanent ban. Everything which measurably changes the performance will be considered a tweak. It doesn't matter if it's 0.5% or 20%. What you have to keep in mind is that we want to make this hobby more appealing to new people and if you need to know 300 tweaks for each benchmark in order to be competitive it won't improve things! I will keep you updated on the Patreon page and ofc whenever the new rule will be activated. Thanks! Roman
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  2. Hi Roman! Thank you for the update. 1st, will donate when possible. Maybe not often, maybe not much, but want to help! 2ndly. The small quote above. To be sure people are fully aware, ALL tweaks the moderators know about needs to be listed in the rules in each benchmark including tutorials and pictures if needed. Because this will make a fair playing field. Then the mods and benchers can know the same thing. It would be helpful to everyone. It's not just that they are tweaks, some of these tweaks are secrets of the trade. HWBot needs to be forth coming and honest. If you guys know the tweaks, list them with detail and tutorials so everyone can have the same chance. That is based on the thoughts of just hit run and win. My 2 cents on the matter.
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  3. Up for sale are some of the most sough-after hardware. Personally tested every single piece and it is working 100% fine. Please no trolling , no low balls on this thread. I only accept paypal as payment and the buyer pays the paypal fees and or send the money as a gift. I sell only to USA at this time. Motherboards: 1. Asus ROG Apex XII Z-490 - Mint , like brand new , full retail box and all accessories included bought it because i thought my other daily Apex xii was dead but i managed to get it back working hence this board was used only once and i'm not using it. Price - $350us + shipping. 2. eVGA x299 Dark LGA 2066 - Mint , like brand new , motherboard only. Price $225us + shipping. If the buyer wants ( free for parts only i will send you another x299 Dark wish is dead , can be use for Bios swap and spare parts , this is optional and up to the buyer. ) 3. Asus ROG Apex IX Z-270 - Motherboard is sub-zero ready with plastidip and moded for Intel cpus 8700k / 9900k , just flash the bios you need and done. Will ship with normal Bios. Price $125us + shipping. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPUs: 4. Intel Core i9 9980xe 18 core 36 thread monster - Was using it on my spare rig , i do not need that much cpu power. Price - $700us + shipping. 5. Intel Core i3 7350k 2 cores 4 threads - Don't need it anymore. Price - $85us + shipping 6. Intel Core i7 7740x4 cores 8 threads - Don't need it anymore. Price - $100us + shipping. If the buyer wants ( free ASrock x299 works only on dual channel 2 dimm slots are dead , good to test cpus as otherwise is somewhat functional , optional as this is not a combo )( motherboard is cover in plastidip as it was my LN2 overclocker board , not good for daily ). ). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Video Cards: 7. AMD Radeon HD 5770 , have 3 for sale ( one Asus and two Sapphire ). Price $20us each + shipping. 8. AMD Radeon HD7950 , have 3 for sale , Sapphire Dual X ( no shroud included , no fans included , heatsink and video card only ). Price $35us each + shipping 9. eVGA GTX 580 FTW Hydro Cooper 2 , have 2 for sale - Hard to find , collection item beautiful video cards. Comes with the eVGA hydro cooper 2 water block installed + backplate. Price $125us each + shipping. 10. Nvidia RTX 2080Ti FE with Phantek h2o Block , RTX 2080Ti FE with Phantek full cover water cooling block installed , card has shunt mods done to increase power limit. Working Flawless , runs cool on a good loop. No stock cooler , only the included and installed Phantek Full Cover water cooling block. Price $795us + shipping *** I will add more hardware for sale later on ***
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  4. There is a world record out there since 2018 that is either cheated or tweaked into oblivion - before we aim for such lofty goals as informing mods of every tweak we should aim to at least have an understanding of how all the world records came about. I also think that CPU-Z should be engaged to make XOC mode a true XOC mode again; for validations it's now impossible to beat old scores because validation in current versions of CPU-Z puts so much stress on the CPU.
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  5. Hahahahahahaha............. Dare to dream. Sorry Jon.
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  8. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/mt50in1/
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  9. Here you go: 460hawk_coldslow_hwbot.rom
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  10. Alby you can't be serious... ppl on hwbot wants to have points for their benching effort? how dare you :D
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  11. without effort ... seems like you never played 3dm05 on the edge LOL.
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  12. I've revisited yesterday this bios and it seems my cpu has no CB and CBB at -162C with fclk 1433, board worked like a charm. Best bios so far according to my experience.
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  13. great one ! I was thinking phase change was on the northbridge, then I saw it was on memories . Crazy timings !
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  15. All hardware is allowed to to compete in our rankings. In general, you would just look up CPU-World to see if these are known S-Spec codes for any production processors and then submit in that category. These CPUs however don't seem to be in their database, CPU-Z also fails to detect them and they are so special that I think we just add individual categories to our db. Even though some might be matched to something knowed, I just went ahead and created categories for the CPUs you mentioned: https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/qqlt_es/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/qqls_es/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/qnct_es/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/qtj1_es/ https://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/qtj2_es/ As always, you have to proof which hardware youre using. So either you provide photo verification or use hwinfo in case it reports correct info.
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  16. Just finished a meeting with the programmer, new benchmark global point system will be setup this weekend, first on the test uat.hwbot.org, afterwards on the main site.
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  17. Testing some DDR4-32GB Kit Samsung B-Die Dual Rank. All kit can do great result on Maximus XII Apex! 1. Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB 3200 CL16-18-18-36 1.35v This kit seems using custom PCB, idk what version, but on M12A it only can post up to 4400, but no tight memory at this speed. This speed capable passing 3DMark11 Physics 4133 12-11-11 2T Tight @ 2.09v Max Stable Voltage. 2. G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB 4000 CL17-18-18-38 1.4v (Batch October 2020) This kit using B2 PCB, which is good, because this kit can do high clock. Passing 4200 CL12-12 2T Tight @ 2.04v Max Stable Voltage. This kit can do 4800+ CL14-13-13 2T. Finally breaking 11K Geekbench Memory Score :D. And it did 4800 14-13-13 2T Tight 3DMark11 Physics too!
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