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  1. If I personally had the skill to work on this it would be different already but I simply don't. We hired a coder who has been trying the last weeks and months to work himself into what we have here. It's not easy but we're getting there. I can absolutely understand everyones frustration but I can promise you that I'm trying everything to make sure HWBOT 2021 will be much better than the previous years.
    23 points
  2. 32M is a blast on rocket lake! Thought we could compile some tips to get everyone started. Feel free to add yours and I will quote you in the OP Gear 1 Mode necessary duh TRAS no longer limited to 28 go as low as you can. 16-17 should be ok to 4k mhz You need blast the SA voltage 1.55-1.65 all day VCCIO_M on the other hand doesn't need Z490 levels 1.35/1.45 has not limited in any way. wazza doesnt help much, maybe 1 second. unlike other gens you can pretty much just torque each timing as low as it will go and see a benefit RTL you can try Relaxing channel A and running them at the same timings IE 53/53 54/54 has netted some solid scores BCLK is king, run as high a bclk as you can. It will allow you to lower the multiplier of the CPU to a level that you can run at exactly 5005 for the entire run Binning for Gear 1 is a thing. The same setup I have cpus that wont boot 3900 and ones that run 4060 on air. a0 might be better than a2 dimms. I wouldnt call this a fact yet but it seems to be leaning this way. IMC needs cold to max out (obvious) take advantage of training lower and raising bclk in OS (usually 2-3bclk is fine) leaving cache freq very low on training may help (needs more science) Certain microcode version may be more efficient (needs more science) Updated as of 04/29/2021
    20 points
  3. Just freshly arrived on my doorstep, brand new retail Z590 OC Formula. Thanks daddy @NickShih for the board. Some shots of the motherboard. Bios 1.24 Easy 5066C15 at 1.95Vdimm with single rank dimms 4533C16 @ 1.65 with TridentZ Neo 3600c16 (very average B-Die sticks) The latest 1.27 Bios has optimized memory training profiles and tuned LN2 profile. HWBOT member Chispy made a bootable XP for Z590 OC Formula, you can grab it here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/8h55ndgfck10m4j/20CE0A7B83E5F08B-00-00.mrimg/file ( can be slow in download ) Use Macrium Reflect software for the above image. Use ASMedia ports (IDE) - Select XP compatible in Bios Set other SATA ports to IDE or Disable them In case you want to build your own "special XP", here are the ACHI files required to inject. Other software: Formula Drive 3.0.4 (click) OC Formula Motherboard Utility (click) Multi-purpose Bios 1.27A (click) Beta Bios 1.27D (improved Gear1) Latest Beta Bios 1.27H Enjoy! Z59OCF127A.rar Z59OCF127D.zip 1920580306_ASRockMotherboardUtility(v3.0.412).rar 22471576_FormulaDrive_3.0_407.4(portablelite).rar
    18 points
  4. Hello, after a few days of testing/trying here's the final ISO + TIBx for Z490 ISO: https://mega.nz/file/MJZB2CoA#uPgJY8HNq4Y2mCIuNLrk3ApwOsvo437pqvVpOLAn3hE TIBx for Acronis 2020: https://mega.nz/file/gRJ23T4T#iFOmOUa6AansaVL-TwFcFurP484KAw53DB0c6NWhln0 This ISO based on WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL SP3 X86 - INTEGRAL EDITION 2020.9.9: http://www.zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems/123-windows-xp-professional-sp3-x86-integral-edition includes lots of patches for modern hardware which improves perfomance of modern CPU's and lots of other. Additionaly integrated: - acpi.sys compatible with Z490 - Microsoft USB 3.0 xHCI driver (Backported Win8 driver) - universal USB driver. All ports works without any issues - Samsung NVMe driver (Backported Win7 driver). Driver works during XP install. So you can install XP directly to Samsung Nvme SSD. - PAE 128GB RAM Patch (May have stability issues) - allows XP x86 to use up to 128gb of ram instead of traditional 4gb. May have stability issues with Nvidia drivers versions 332 and higher. Didn't test it though. - Kernel-Mode Driver Framework 1.11 (Backported Win7 driver). Needs for Microsoft Universal USB drivers to work properly - UAS/UASP driver (Improves USB storage device performance) - Intel xHCI driver by Stavros taken from win-raid.com 1. I wasn't able to install this ISO from USB flashdrive no matter what. I've tried lots of different software and methods (WinSetupFromUSB , Easy2Boot, Firadisk + Firahelper, Yumi ) , no luck. Always got errors after F6 and F2 messages during installation like ntkrnlmp.exe, some errors in txtsetup.sif, corrupted files etc. Allthough the same ISO installs perfectly from CD/DVD drive without any issues. This might be somehow related to bios (i'm using 0088) or amount of ram (2x16gb in my case). So i suggest to use CD/DVD drive to istall ISO or direct install to drive from TIBx mount with Acronis for those who has no CD/DVD drive. 2. In case of installing from CD/DVD Drive, plug both HDD/SSD drive and CD/DVD Drive to Asmedia ASM1061 ports on motherboard. In case of APEX XII it's SATA_E1 and SATA_E2 ports, otherwise you'll get 7B BSOD during installation. It's related to INTEL AHCI drivers somehow not detected by Windows XP during installation (although they are integrated into ISO), but working fine after complete system install. You may switc SSD/HDD drive to Intel Sata ports after system install, it'll work fine. 3. As there're NVME Drivers for Samsung integrated into ISO, you may choose to install XP directly to nvme drive even if it's GPT. No problem here. 4. First boot into XP (after 3 reboots during install process) your device manager should look like this: You may install those missing 3 PCI Device and SM Bus with Snappy Driver Installer (SDI), it's Intel LPSS, SPI and SMBus drivers. 5. Final system device manage in my case: Good luck, hopefully this post will help and save your time.
    18 points
  5. Sure. 4000€ for 3 sticks and you get the rest for free.
    18 points
  6. Reserved for more Stuff/Guides. --- There quite a few significant changes, however and below is a list that compares traditional expectations vs actual behavior of RKL: Traditional Expectations Actual RKL Behavior Memory and controller can only run in synch Memory and controller can run 1:1 or 1:2 Both odd and even DRAM ratios work Only DRAM odd ratios work for higher frequencies 100:100MHz base DRAM Ratios work as well as 100:133MHz base DRAM Ratios 100:100MHz base DRAM Ratios are significantly worse than 100:133MHz base DRAM Ratios The cores share the same PLL and thus at any point of time, they share the same frequency The cores have their own PLL and thus at any point of time, they can run different frequencies AVX offset is referenced against the all core active ratio AVX offset is referenced against each individual core's ratio limit The voltage needed to run stress tests is more than sufficient for cache to switch ratios High Cache Frequencies require a much higher voltage to switch to that ratio than to run stress tests Even with ring-down bin enabled, Cache will pretty much run up to it's fused max ratio Due to the above, the VID for cache is so much higher than it's core counterpart that often the Cache VID would exceed core's and induce more down-binning since Cache would regulate its frequency to not exceed core's VID requirement. The Memory controller for Rocketlake is significantly different with new features and new limitations. Firstly, there are 2 “Gear” Modes the Memory controller can run in. 1:1 or Gear 1 means that the Controller and Memory clock is in synch. 1:2 or Gear 2 means that the Controller runs at 1/2 of Memory clock. Typically, the controller can maintain a 1:1 mode till about 3600MHz. After which it can no longer work reliably and needs to switch to Gear 2. Since the controller runs at a higher frequency in Gear 1 even if memory frequency is lower, the SA voltage required is thus higher for the same memory frequency. Our auto-rules try to maintain the 1:1 gear mode frequency until 3600. Related to this, since the controller runs at only 1/2 clock in Gear 2, the command rate by default in Gear 2 is 1T, and all sub timings such as Round Trip Latency and turn-around times are tighter in Gear 2. (btw, IO latency timing option is non-existent on RKL) This tries to make up for the latency associated with 1/2 clock. On top of this, there are 2 limitations in Gear 2 mode. This first one is that there are no odd ratios available in this mode. So for example there is no 41.33 ratio. The second limitation is that ratios based off BCLK:DRAM ratio of 100:100 are more unstable compared to ratios based off BCLK:DRAM ratio of 100:133. We have explained this in the help string and have set the non-recommended ratios in grey font. There are 2 VCCIO voltages for RKL. VCCIO Mem OC Voltage is the rail that would need to be raised during overclocking Memory. Typically in the range of 1.25~1.45v. CPU VCCIO voltage at default of 1.05v powers everything else. Another note is that the PCH is powered by a VCCIN of 1.8v which is used as it’s FIVR input voltage. - LN2 The dual 8 pin power connector on M13A has priority differences, the one towards the left is the primary and has to be plugged in. We experienced no Coldbug or Coldbootbug on RKL, so there is no RSVD switches needed As before on Z490 all you got to play with is vcore, sa, io/io memoc and pll term. As starting point set the LN2 Jumper on Mainboard, cool down to -80C Basic LN2 Settings are: Ratio 55 Cache 45 Vcore: 1.65 - 1.75+ VCCIO: 1.30 VCCIO OC: 1.50 VCCIO SA: 1.40 - 1.50 PLL Term: 1.60 - 1.70 Ring PLL Voltage: 1.05 / Auto Internal PLL Voltage: 1.05 / Auto PLL Bandwidth: 2 (higher blck maybe higher) -- Worktool Usage High Cache Frequencies require a much higher voltage to switch to that ratio than to run stress tests. So for example if you’re dynamically switching the Cache ratio in the OS, whether due to power saving or manual adjustments, to switch to high cache you need to set high VCore first to succeed in the switch. Once the ratio is switched over however, the voltage can be lowered significantly, for example you may only need to use 1.7v for cinebench but need to switch to the high ring ratio with 1.90v. The tool does it for you when you apply Fixed Ring Ratio, it well set high vcore before switching, then switch then lower vcore back to previous value. The cores perform slightly differently as the same frequencies, with the middle cores yielding best performance and the first or last being the slowest. If the processor’s favored cores are at the front or back, the single thread performance maybe slower than a processor with favored cores closer to the middle. 1. Put in your desired Ratio - 55 for example 2. Put in your desired Cache Ratio - 50 for example 3. Apply Core to switch CPU Ratio 4. Apply Ring to switch CPU Cache You can try "Maxout all Limits" after you set everything, this max out the Board/CPU Limits if something in Bios is forgot to set. -- XP Tool For XP and Ratio changes you need the attached XP Tools. -- Tools - Worktool https://www.dropbox.com/s/yo5n36kj3xmb6l5/OCTool1221.zip?dl=0 - TurboV Core 1.10.12 (590 and z490) https://www.dropbox.com/s/qfzmx3uvx7ib2xd/TurboV_Core_1.10.12.7z?dl=0 - MemTweakIt https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjowe9faml7e6xh/MemTweakIt.exe?dl=0 -- Legacy Tools - WinXP Ratio Tool https://www.dropbox.com/s/805ioagux8inbqz/xptools.zip?dl=0 - 590 ACPI Files (credits go out to OGS) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixh046p92cc8pwf/winxp_acpi.zip?dl=0 -- BIOS 0903 BETA ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0903.7z 0902 BETA https://drive.google.com/file/d/1osCYx94vY4vu2en_XFES2xDGOOhEsZLY/view?usp=sharing 0901 BETA ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0901.7z RKL OCTVB Preview Bios ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0020.rar Guide: rkl_octvb.docx 0801 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TixpPAyQ1oIom_FNmWOv5qI4ex91hOeX/view?usp=sharing 0705 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qz2dw2r2lxic8iv/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0705.CAP?dl=0 0706 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C5Bt7CmfgLPt7u3HbyN5MV-nzmIQv5yV/view?usp=sharing -- BIOS FOR SUPERPI 0070 (beta) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SRhK0Jk0XqZkOjJ2X97VP2UgnOSUzNap/view?usp=sharing This is an old BIOS, so it is recommended to use it only when running SUPERPI. Because the latest BIOS has better performance 0062 (beta) https://www.dropbox.com/s/jul8s6col0ownsp/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0062.rar?dl=0 Some refinements to gear 1 , in particular cmd rate 1t mode , plc check if helps!! I use 1.45v io mem and 1.6v SA for 3866 1t just to rule out voltages -- BIOS FLASHBACK PORT Red marked is the BIOS FLASHBACK PORT, Rename your File to M13A.CAP before flashing. -- SPI HEADER FLASH Set the Jumper(blue) left for Slot 1 or right for Slot 2 .ROM BIOS FOR FLASH This Bios is withouth the UEFI Header so you can flash it only via SPI Programmer. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s53p7opjshbfeij/ROG-MAXIMUS-XIII-APEX-ASUS-0801.rom?dl=0
    17 points
  7. Hey everyone, it's time for another freebie! I was going through my hardware recently and came across the KPC Venom container. This is such an iconic and legendary CPU pot but I just don't use it anymore. It's still one of the best all around pots and is especially good for 'fullpot' LN2 or Dry Ice. Rather than let it collect dust or sell it, I'd like to just give it away to someone who will use it and love it the way I did. The container has been lapped and it's in excellent condition. Other than the base sanding, it's in OEM condition with no mods done. I am including a KPC thermal probe and all original hardware except the back plate. Unfortunately the back plate has been used to death and butchered up for other projects, so it wont be included with the freebie. Shipping: I will pay USA shipping, but international people will need to pay the entire shipping bill, and it could be over $50 USD Who's eligible: Everyone in good standing at Hwbot! However, I really do want to see it put to use, so only enter if this is something you would use. How to enter: Just make a post in this thread. Winner selection process: The freebie will be open for about 4 weeks. I have asked @Leeghoofd to conduct the drawing on my behalf from the entries. I will 'close' the event and then turn it over to him to randomly select a winner.
    16 points
  8. The past is the past, noone wants you to forgive nor forget, I would just like all of us to move on.... Nothing me nor the new management or whatever you want to call them are affiliated with. PJ's dream was big and this resulted in some great events like Gamers Assembly in Poitiers and the ones at Computex. Some events were labelled overrated and maybe in the eyes of many not even worth to be present at all.Nevertheless it allowed people from e.g. Australia, Brazil and Indonesia to participate at the Grand OC Final in Berlin. An experience for them, that otherwise would never had been possible. PJ had great ideas, but I guess the site couldn't keep up the pace. For your info the last years the Bot was running break even, meaning Frederik could just cover the server costs. This thx to the great overclocking friendly companies like G.Skill and Galax. This lack of extra budget is probably the explenation that not much development or bug fixing happened. I don't need to tell you that in 2020 Frederik nearly payed most of the server costs himself, as most events got cancelled. Kuddos to Frederik for doing that. Without him I would not be typing at this forum right now. Also people still believe what they want to believe, but there are or were no big contracts with any CPU brand for the last 2 years. If they have real proof than just here-say, let them play their cards... Bussiness plan? What bussiness plan are you referring too.... I heard I got payed big cash too, suuuuure. I nearly payed all of my trips to Taiwan just to hang out with the crazy OC people. All my free time goes into this place, I don't even have time to bench anything myself. We need to bring the HWBOT back on the rails and improve it. This will take probably at least till the end of Q1 or even Q2. Improvements are required before we can engage ourselves to host big vendor competitions again or look for sponsorship. Most important of this long reply is that Roman and his associate Eike are giving this site a second chance. I'm more than gratefull for this opportunity as we are making big progress behind the scenes. To be honest I was more than done with the self destructive attitude from some people here, that it made me nearly quit this scene. The same bad vibes that made icons like Ney and Websmile leave the building. However I came out stronger thx to Roman and co. The latter is one of the reasons I will moderate all crap talk like there was before in this thread. Let it be a warning for the members that bring their real life frustration to our place of fun. I won't call names, but if you think this is the place to ventilate your personal issues or just want to blow things up for shits ang gigglez, you are dealing with the wrong old guy. I will remove it once, 2nd time you get an official warning and strike three you are out. There's no room for negativity Alex, life is already hard enough, just relax bro. The people you are upset with are not calling any shots anymore. Let it go... Me, Roman and Eike want this site to properly work again and allow OCers to have fun again and especially preserve the great Database. Fluck the past, we are moving forward bro!!!!
    16 points
  9. Hey there I hope everyone is doing good so far and you had a decent start into 2021. As you've probably seen there is some movement right now with our coder understanding more and more how things work on the bot. Albrecht is in good contact with him and I'm sure we're getting there. Right now our priority is still to fix stuff which is not working and work on the most important updates. There are few things I want to address quickly: Benchmark Updates: Albrecht created a power point for us to see what kind of changes the community wants to see regarding benchmarks. Personally I'm totally open and we can just follow whatever the community wants to see. You guys eventually have to play on the field so you can also give feedback on it. Finances: Financially we currently have costs of about 4000€ per month which we have to cover somehow. I'm not trying to earn any money of this project and just want to keep it alive and improve things if possible. About 900-1000 € per month is the hosting cost right now to pay domains and keep the servers running. The rest is to pay the coder and the taxes/health insures and all this stuff we have to pay for him. I'm trying to be as transparent as possible. Besides that there are no additional costs we have to cover at this point. There are multiple ways we can cover the ~4000€. At a certain point we will try to form partnerships again with e.g. G.Skill, ASUS, Intel or whoever wants to join. Right now as long as the site is not 100% fixed we will just try to get some parts back by hosting competitions but also due to corona it's very difficult to see how things evolve with Computex and so on. As I mentioned in my initial Post from earlier 2020 I'm going to set up a Patreon page for HWBot within this week and hope that some can help us keeping this project alive. Thinking about how much we all spend on hardware and LN2 per month I hope we can find some guys to donate monthly in a range of like 10-25€. I hope we can cover some good part of our cost this way and stay independent. Nothing of this will be mandatory and you will not get benefits for donating. Well you can have fun on here which is a cool thing I guess Annual Ranking - Overclocker League 2021/2022/2023...: Albrecht told me there is a good interesting in keeping an annual ranking which is also fine to me. Eike and me will change the way this ranking works to make it more interactive, easier to understand for newcomers. More details on this once we have tested our idea. Tweaking/Cheating: This is probably the only part where we're taking a decision some of you might hate but this is also a major part for constant trouble in our community. As long as I've been part of OC this always lead to drama, confusion and anger. The general issue is that we have to decide which part is considered a cheat and which part is considered a tweak. Objectively speaking both things are pretty much the same. In an ideal world all overclockers would tweak their hardware and press start on benchmarks instead of finding every loophole to somehow receive a higher score even though the hardware is still performing on the same level. We all know this is never going to happen because overclockers are overclockers. If there is a grey zone or a loophole it will always be used (I did the same in the past) Right now we have such complex rules and have to use tools such as benchmate because we all made our own lifes harder and harder every single year. Instead of adding a new rule every few weeks to limit the damage we will take a different approach: Only tweaks which are known to moderators will be allowed. If there is a new tweak which has not been discussed with moderators and it is used it will automatically be considered cheating followed by a temporary or permanent ban. Everything which measurably changes the performance will be considered a tweak. It doesn't matter if it's 0.5% or 20%. What you have to keep in mind is that we want to make this hobby more appealing to new people and if you need to know 300 tweaks for each benchmark in order to be competitive it won't improve things! I will keep you updated on the Patreon page and ofc whenever the new rule will be activated. Thanks! Roman
    16 points
  10. Elmor recently started taking orders for the AMPLE 20A power card. It’s a simple little single-phase VRM that can be used to replace a broken VRM or simply overcome that pesky OCP/OVP. The most common potential usage would be for a GPU memory rail. However, with an output voltage from 1.0-3.4 V it could be used for many different applications. I obtained a test sample of this new device and I intend to put it to the ultimate test. I have an RX 580 GPU with a damaged memory voltage rail, but otherwise the GPU is in perfect condition. The plan is to solder on the AMPLE power card and observe the impact on the memory overclocking. I know what the card was capable of before the memory VRM died, so it’s the perfect test case for this little device. So follow along as I put this thing to the test and find out if it’s capable of delivering sufficient power to 8 GB of GDDR5. The AMPLE Device The device ships in an anti-static bag with the 6-pin connector added in as an accessory. This gives you the flexibility to power up the AMPLE from any qualifying voltage source you desire. Product Specification Output voltage adjustable 1.0-3.4 V using the on-board potentiometer (range can be increased by adding your own potentiometer) Nominal input voltage 12 V (functional from 4.5 V up to 16 V) Max output current 20 A (thermally limited). Active cooling may be required to achieve high output current. Efficiency at max output 91.5% (3.4 V, 20 A, 750 KHz) Switching frequency selectable between 300 KHz and 750 KHz OVP (+20%), OCP (24A) and OTP (Tj = 150*C) Output voltage can be monitored and adjusted using the EVC2 VMOD1-header Ships with a PCIE 6-pin power connector which can be soldered on by the user Source Credit: elmorlabs.com There is one switch on the device which acts as a mode selector. There are a total of 4 different combinations you can set, which change the output delivery settings. Switch 1 OFF = 750 KHz switching frequency Switch 1 ON = 300 KHz switching frequency Switch 2 OFF = PSM = Power Saving Mode, higher ripple but lower loss at low loads Switch 2 ON = CCM = Constant Conduction Mode. The PMIC is always regulating to the best of its ability, for the tightest possible voltage regulation. In some cases, for example with this project at 3.0V+, that will create a high loss in no-load or low-load situations. For controlling the voltage there are multiple different methods you can choose from. To make things simple, there is a potentiometer on the power card for direct control. For more advanced control, you have the ability to integrate the device with an EVC2 module using the vmod connection. Mounting the Power Card Before you just hastily solder on the AMPLE device, you should take the time to power it on and make sure it works. I would suggest powering it up and setting the desired voltage before you attempt to solder it on a GPU. The underside of the AMPLE has power and ground planes. In my particular case I won't need these connections so I decided to insulate them with a few layers of Kapton tape. This is an unnecessary step, but in my case there were a few components on the card which were extremely close to shorting on the AMPLE device. I chose to mount mine with 0.8 mm copper plate. I kept the plane-to-plane distance as short as possible. Furthermore, I always prefer to make my ground connections on the front of the card after where the main connection is. In the picture below you can see both ground connections come after the memory plan connection. In my testing this provides the best realized MHz whether it be core or memory external VRM replacement. Test Setup The overall goal is to compare stock PCB memory overclocking with AMPLE power memory overclocking. To make the test consistent, I will use the same load voltage for both test conditions. The test methodology is to overclock memory and record the passable frequency in Fire Strike GT1. I will start at 2280 MHz, increase +10 MHz until it becomes unstable PowerColor RX580 8GB Golden Sample Z490 test platform AMPLE VRM on memory rail Memory IC: Micron D9VVR 1625 MHz strap timings copied to 2000 MHz strap (Most efficient timings possible without diminishing returns on frequency) In order to get a realistic look at the voltage response of the device, I have placed voltage test points (TP1-3) at various distances away from the main inductor. During the load tests, I will also be conducting thermal tests of the mosfet heatsink. Ambient temperature for all tests around 24c The voltage read points are as follows: TP1 = AMPLE power voltage at C10 cap TP2 = GPU plane voltage at solder connection TP3 = Memory IC voltage at MLCC cap on back of card, at least 100mm distance from AMPLE Vout solder connection Test Results Voltage droop is the enemy of external VRM mods. It’s important to know exactly where the voltage droop occurs because it can narrow down the cause. The voltage test point results indicate that the droop is not caused by the solder connection. The voltage droop is present at the C10 capacitor so therefore it’s coming directly from the AMPLE VRM. This makes me happy because the solder connection is relatively perfect, but it’s mildly concerning to see the AMPLE being stressed under load. Regardless of any droop, the card was still able to pass FS GT1 test at the highest possible memory frequency. There is effectively no difference between the stock VRM and the AMPLE VRM for this test application. The temperature reached a peak at the end of GT2 and was still climbing. With the Fire Strike test, GT3 is CPU based so it had a cooldown period. The max temp of around 50c seems reasonable but further testing may be needed. Sustained loads of 1hr might show a different result. SW1 Test results proved inconclusive. Disregarding experimental error, there was effectively no difference in the realized MHz or voltage response. Conclusion Overall I am extremely pleased with this little device. It performed exceptionally well and the end result is that I was able to achieve the same overclocking performance as the stock PCB. The AMPLE single-phase power card has been validated for benchmarking purposes. In terms of the switch options, my expectation was that CCM mode with 750 KHz would be the optimal configuration. The switch test results showed that the various combinations didn't have any noticeable effect on realized Mhz or voltage response. The 10 mV voltage droop is a mild concern because it’s coming directly from the AMPLE, however, it did not affect the overall overclocking result. With a price tag of just $20,, it’s an absolute must-have tool for extreme overclockers. My RX580 is the perfect use case. The card was effectively dead and useless, but the mighty little AMPLE device brought it back to life and it still holds gold in TIme Spy. Even if the price was tripled, I would still recommend it because of its potential value. This was just my first test, stay tuned for more tests to come.
    16 points
  11. The bot is not stopping, again it has got nothing to do with non profitable biss transactions. Roman's primary goal was to secure the database. Mission accomplished by him and Eike. Next goal is to improve the lackluster aged coding, which will be the toughest thing to achieve, mainly thanks to the overaged Java version and not receiving proper access to the coding From there on improvements and simplification to the points algorythm, interface,... but that will be 2021 projects without a doubt... I honestly wished we already had a 2020 front end and points for everyone, bye bye complex esports related algorythms that hardly anyone can understand, but 8 months down the road we are about to shift into first gear....
    15 points
  12. Apparently CPU-z wasn't bin to win enough as is. So next are we gonna ban maxmem for memory frequency valids and require all mem channels instead of just 1?
    13 points
  13. Thought I'd let it go wild. A benchBIOS made by Hardware Hackers (me in particular). Been known by some for about 10 years. The thing is, I didn't add any features, it was all there done by Asus, I've just unlocked them and made some bench-related changes. List of changes: Based on latest 1024 beta Set by CMOS default: 1) No logo screen 2) Floppy disabled 3) IDE timeout = 0 4) Overclocking mode = manual 5) MPS 1.4 6) Timings set manually 7) Spread spectrum disabled 😎 Onboard devices = disabled 9) Speech POST reporter = disabled 10) USB timeout = 10sec 11) USB Highspeed = enable Moved following menus: 1) Hyperthreading moved to jumperfree (it's the only option needed in CPU configuration so moving in jumperfree saves some time) 2) Moved PCI Latency to chipset settings (it's the only option in PnP that is useful for changing for PCMark for example, so moved to a more popular section) 3) Moved memory timings to jumperfree except burst length (from previous investigations this menu doesn't do anything and I don't like useless things). 4) New memory divider menu has replaced the old one 5) DRAM Command Rate placed in Jumperfree under main timings 6) Created an "Advaned memory settings" submenu in Jumperfree and moved subtimings there (Burst length, Idle Timer, Refresh Rate and ECC capability too) 7) Placed Microcode updation instead of "Max CPUID level 3" (who needed that one anyway?) in CPU configuration. 😎 Placed AGP 4x Override under "Graphic Adapter priority" in chipset settings. 9) Removed AI tuner menu So Jumperfree currently has frequency, voltage and timings on one page and that makes it close to AI tweaker. Keyboard input for FSB frequency - it was such a waste of time to set the required value by pressing + or -. Unhidden menus: 1) All strap & memory dividers available despite the FSB frequency and labled clearly (by Asus, not me) 2) Command Rate 3) Dual Channel Organization 4) Write to Read Command Delay 5) Write Recovery Time 6) Write-Read Command Spacing 7) Read-Write Command Spacing 😎 Read Delay 9) Dynamic Read Delay Adjustment 10) Microcode Updation 11) AGP 4x Override P4C800-E mod.zip
    12 points
  14. Hey everyone, I was cleaning out some of my GPU boxes and I found this cool little tool that I don't need anymore. I added a few key voltage displays and mounted the whole thing on a piece of anodized aluminum. They are exceptionally rare!! I think only a handful were made for the Computex event and it never went into production. I received it from Gigabyte free of charge so I'd like to pass it on for free to anyone who wants it. I will pay USA shipping but international guys will need to pay the shipping bill...should be about $33 for most locations. It's open to everyone! If you want a chance to win this, just make any post in this thread. After a few weeks I will use a random name picker.
    12 points
  15. Hello my name is Amy, and honestly I never find the right words to express my feelings or what to write here, but let's have a go at it: I adore this community very much, I especially like the strong arms of @Alex@ro and @Splave and that sexy music preference of @Luumi . For the rest @Leeghoofdremains a douche for turning me down and where's my ex Websmile hiding at?
    12 points
  16. Hola everyone , as you already know this brand new architecture of AMD RDNA 2 has come in the form of RX 6xxx video cards. I can really say this video cards are fast and can trade blows with the rtx 3090 / rtx 3080 and rtx 3070 as i have tested myself. " Monster in all Firestrike benchmarks - FS/FSE/FSU " and nvidia cannot touch it there. In the wake of this new architecture some things have change in the amd drivers and in the rx 6xxx Bios too. As it stands right now amd has an artificial lock on the max clocks on the core and memory as you already might heard or know. This is the downside of this new video cards but hopefully not for long as there will be software to change this , right now is in Beta testing 👍 Thanks to some in depth investigation , work and mods found by @Splave and @elmor you can now tweak this video cards using the Elmor's evc2 controller to get you higher power limit in order to maintain a more constant core clocks as the clocks on this video cards are always dynamic and not static , hence with the mod you can sustain for longer core clocks *example 2750Mhz fluctuates and bounce between 2600Mhz~2750Mhz during benchmarks because of power limit , but if moded it will sustain those core clocks closer to 2700/2750Mhz thru the benchmark , hence giving you a better score overall. Most of the time higher clocks do not mean a better score ( You need to find the higher average sustain clocks during the run of the benchmark , look at FM/UL systeminfo monitoring tool report once you have sub this to your online account at FM/UL , or just use GPU-Z monitoring and logging tool , that will give an idea of the real clocks you are able to sustain , stable , highest average , not fluctuating much clocks is what you should be looking for and not the highest peak clocks ) , there has to be a balance between clocks , power limit and voltage , so keep this in mind *example 2850Mhz core clock can score lower than 2750Mhz same with the memory , 2150Mhz memory clocks can score lower than 2130Mhz *. Find the balance , sweet spot and tweak your clocks accordingly to the score on your benchmarks ( adjust as needed , play with it , that's where the fun is 😜 ) . *** Tip - When in the overclocking section of the driver and you punch your max core clocks you will also need to adjust the minimum core clocks around 100~200Mhz lower than the max core clocks ( example 2700Mhz max / 2500Mhz min ) , adjust voltages as well for the minimum clocks.*** Here you can find a great overclocking guide and tips when overclocking this video cards , big thumbs up to @Splave and @elmor for it. https://www.elmorlabs.com/index.php/forum/topic/6900xt-power-limit-tricks/#postid-338 *** Good news , there is light at the end of the Tunnel *** 👍 , as i just found out the AMD - Red Bios Editor guys are actively working on a fully, working Bios editor software to change everything possible in the Bios eg. ( clocks , power limits , voltages , etc... ) , at Igor's Lab , here - read post # 434 - https://www.igorslab.de/community/threads/red-bios-editor-und-morepowertool-bios-einträge-anpassen-optimieren-und-noch-stabiler-übertakten-navi-unlimited.2415/page-22#post-102478 As it stands right now they are still looking for volunteers to test this software. ( Let's see once this software is fully working who will be the first one to break a core clock of 4000Mhz , throwing that challenge out there as to what might be possible in the near future 😛 and who will be the first one ... About morepowertool on Igor's lab - download here the latest version - https://www.igorslab.de/red-bios-editor-bios-eintraege-anpassen-optimieren-und-noch-stabiler-uebertakten-navi-unlimited/ The software seems to work sometimes but many times you will find you get stuck at 500/500Mhz clocks due to amd protections , if you don't refresh/re-install the driver it will start acting very weird and sometimes bsod wish leads to a broken OS 😬 , it happened to me and i went thru 3 windows installations on one day , ( If that happens to you it is needed to re-install drivers and start all over again as it did happen to me too many times while testing mpt on my 6900xt. ) If you get unstable settings on mpt and cannot boot to the OS ( black screen ) you will need to enter in safe boot into the OS and revert the changes there in mpt and uninstall the driver , then and only then you will recover from bad settings. ( I tested this for many days myself ). Morepowertool is a great software to use but you got to take it easy and work your way up to find for yourself stable settings. I was able to make a profile of an mpt file for my 6900xt working at 1.35v with 550 power limit , it did work only once, after a crash during a benchmark run the system reboot itself and i was greed it with the infamous black screen and unbootable system. Never again i have managed to replicate those settings as AMD driver seems like it takes control of it 99.99% of the time. If you get a reboot while running high clocks in the middle of the benchmark , run lower core clocks and lower v.core , revert back to stable settings as this has happen to @Splave and myself ( The driver freaks out sometimes and goes into some kind of protection mode and make the system reboot ) I want to give credit to @Dancop and @OGS for confirming the low cold bug and cold boot bug of this RX 6xxx cards , every card is different so it will behave differently on sub-zero temps ( For those that remember it's the same CB-CBB issue like the old Radeon's HD 6970-HD 6950 TeraScale VLIW4 Architecture all over again ). My own 6900xt has a very low cold boot bug around -46~50c. Other cards have more or less this same problem with cold boot bug give or take 10~20c. Cold bug as reported by Dancop and OGS is around -100c give or take. *Weird mpt behavior and settings* - This were the settings that worked for me only once with mpt and i have not been able to replicate this ( not sure if it was working 100% either ) - I used the AMD driver overclocking software with this settings for overclocking the graphics card , v.core 1.20v / 550 power limit 2850Mhz core clock. As it stands right now the most common overclocking software used for AMD cards do not work yet , ie ( msi ab , OverdriveNTool , etc... ) . Some of the motherboard vendors have working overclocking software designed specifically for their own brands that somehow works but not fully. It is highly recommended to use the built in overclocking software in the driver as it is the best to use at this moment. Bare in mind this is a complete new architecture and there is only 3 drivers available for this cards , hence i expect for things to get much better once more drivers are out from AMD and we have Bios flashing software available as well as a more stable morepowertool. The Red Bios Rebellion Team at Igor's lab is working hard to get this software working as soon as possible. If you have something to add , share experiences , tips , tweaks and tricks i encourage you please post it here on this thread. It is a challenge to find all this alone hence sharing is the only way to help each other. Enjoy it !
    11 points
  17. Thank you all for your support! Please close the sale -Return of the Jedi-
    10 points
  18. Hello my friends from Hwbot! First all, sorry my broken english, but since it’s not my mother language, I will do my best to be clear. Some people already know me, I have a lot of time on Hwbot and I have been very active in the rankings in the past. However, I am sad to noticed that an activity that we are passionate about seems to be being abandoned. Really for me, it is not very important the ranking, but for many people, especially for newcomers, Hwbot, the Worldwide League is the place for reference. I don’t like to see Hwbot only as a “overclocking database”, as Ripping Org in the past, but a place where overclockers change experiences, friendship, teach each other and pursuit the hardware limits. So I would like to share my personal feeling, which I know are not unanimous, but with all due respect to those who think differently, I would like to share. I believe that Hwbot should update itself, with some new stuff in order to bring more interest to the giant overclocking community around the world. The news is not updated, just go to the first page and we will see the site with old news. We could have really cool things to attract people. - Overclocking tutorials performed by overclockers from around the world, on different platforms, that the overclockers themselves share. - To attract great gamer community, news about the performance improvement in enthusiastic systems, demonstrating the improvement of gaming experience. - Tests of overclocking enthusiast under Water Coolers, Hydro Coolers, Aircoolers, showing how good system can perform. - Updates of fantastic results made by overclockers (Last Big Records) - Overclocking in games (see the huge noise that overclockers made around the world just when playing Doom Eternal under extreme overclocking). This is just a few example, but I have also a good recommendation. If we have a “Gaming Overclocking League”, we can add some Gaming Benchmarks and will do a big noise. We have many games with own benchmark, as example of Metro, that’s very nice (people go crazy when we push extreme overclocking to the games). This is one of the many examples we made overclocking in games 5 years ago: This is only my suggestion, since we have a very good experience in Brazil (maybe one of the biggest gaming and overclocking communities in Brazil). If I can also give my opinion about the benchmarks, we also need to keep the “Old School” benchmarks that I love. Spi, 3dMark 01, 3dMark03, Pifast, etc, are very nice benchmarks and I love it. But we have to update, and for example, give more power to popular and actual benchmarks (Port Royal, Superposition, CB R20, etc.) and sure, find a way to add some gaming benchmarks. I think will be very good for the community. That’s only a personal opinion, and not intend to cause any kind of conflict in the community. Best wishes.
    10 points
  19. Thanks for all the kind words guys, both in this thread and in private Adding to what I said, the last 5 years just didn't feel like the hobby I fell in love with. There are no more events where you can actually meet people and bench random stuff alongside. The community is far too scattered across multiple platforms (forums, youtube, facebook) and it seems that 99%+ of current "legacy benchers" would rather own the hardware than extract scores out of it. Recently losing so many X48 boards (especially the good ones) was a really big disappointment that threw me back 5-10 years. The last straw that broke the camel's back was being scammed by one Wilhelm Sänger trying to find a replacement. I guess enough complaining for now. It's been fun while it lasted
    10 points
  20. After some works, finally get 700 FSB validation https://hwbot.org/submission/4703644 Platform can do 680 FSB Pi 1M all by air cooling. PL value reading is wrong, it's 11 actually, not 1
    9 points
  21. In house bencher, someone either paid by a company or works for a company or given unlimited access etc. In some regards I feel this maybe the only way for us to really grow, I also can't help but to feel guilty sometimes. They can still claim world records but it gives the people a chance to accel in rankings etc.
    9 points
  22. This weekend we got some heavy maintenance planned on the database of HWBot. This could lead to you being unable to submit ( 500 error ) Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but it has to happen some time What are we doing: Removal of a lot of bot created accounts Releasing new benchmarks from Beta stage Alphabetically sorting the benchmarks Adjusting the global point system More functionality for the admins ... So just bench and hang onto them scores, no need to sub them now, The Bot will be back soon with improvements under the hood...
    9 points
  23. like many noticed the rules were hit and miss over the last week, mainly due to an issue wth the Amazon hosting and the Wordpress server HWBot still uses for articles and especially the hated rules section. So time to have a look at the curent rules and try to simplify them. So everyone can have fun again without the requirement of being a NASA engineer to analyse and understand them. An example of Maxon's Cinebench R15: Old rules: versus new rules: No more loss of time debating over the ability to be able to push the bclock , FSB, or whatever you want to call it. Thus no more distinction between desktops/laptops,.... one simple rule for all platforms. I prefer this far simpler layout, covering the standard stuff. General warning: Rules can remain this simple if everyone abides them. If people start bending again, we will end up for some benchmarks with twice the amount of content again. So play it nice to keep everyone's life as easy and straightforward as possible. You can check out the other benchmarks via the frontpage. 'BVoth the old and new proposed rule are present. Keep in mind that the Beta benchmarks are not redone yet, but you will get the global idea. Opinions, thoughts are welcome. Don't worry updated screenshot examples will be added too. Remember the aim is to make these rules easier understandable for everyone.
    9 points
  24. Thanks to everyone who joined the freebie! This offering has run it's course and tonight I did a quick random name pick to determine the winner. The winner is: gkmltd I don't believe we've ever run into each other but expect a PM from me shortly. Stay tuned for a new freebie I have in the works...something quite a bit better this time :D
    8 points
  25. Didn't realise this was an issue, it's been allowed for as long as I can remember, it's allowed for other benches so why wouldn't it be for this? Gives people a better chance of needing less binning, instead of 1 core holding back 7 good ones for example. If people really do care then having two categories is reasonable, but don't see any logic getting rid of the current one.
    8 points
  26. Its often confusing which category to choose for the IGP part of a APU, so here is a incomplete list to help find you the correct one. Beema: FT3 A4 PRO-3350B Beema 128 Radeon™ R4 Graphics Radeon R4 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A4-6210 Beema 128 Radeon™ R3 Graphics Radeon R3 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A4-6250J Beema 128 Radeon™ R3 Graphics Radeon R3 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A6-6310 Beema 128 Radeon™ R4 Series Radeon R4 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A8-6410 Beema 128 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 E1-6010 Beema 128 Radeon™ R2 Graphics Radeon R2 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 E1-6015 Beema 128 Radeon™ R2 Graphics Radeon R2 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 E1-6050 Beema 128 Radeon™ R2 Graphics Radeon R2 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 E2-6110 Beema 128 Radeon™ R2 Graphics Radeon R2 Graphics Mobile (Beema) Kabini: FT3 A4 PRO-3340B Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8240 Graphics Radeon HD 8240 Mobile FT3 A4-5000 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8330 Radeon HD 8330 Mobile FT3 A4-5050 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8330 Radeon HD 8330 Mobile FT3 A4-5100 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8330 Radeon HD 8330 Mobile FT3 A6-5200 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8400 Radeon HD 8400 Mobile AM1 Athlon 5150 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8400 Radeon HD 8400 AM1 Athlon 5350 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8400 Radeon HD 8400 AM1 Athlon 5370 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8400 Radeon HD 8400 FT3 E1-2100 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8210 Radeon HD 8210 Mobile FT3 E1-2150 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8210 Radeon HD 8210 Mobile FT3 E1-2200 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8210 Radeon HD 8210 Mobile FT3 E1-2500 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8240 Graphics Radeon HD 8240 Mobile FT3 E2-3000 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8280 Radeon HD 8280 Mobile FT3 E2-3800 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8280 Radeon HD 8280 Mobile FT3 QC-4000 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8280 Radeon HD 8280 Mobile AM1 Sempron 2650 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8240 Radeon HD 8240 AM1 Sempron 3850 Kabini 128 Radeon™ HD 8280 Radeon HD 8280 Bristol Ridge: FP4 A10-9600P Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 A10-9620P Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 A10-9630P Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 A10-9700 Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Series Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 A10-9700E Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Series Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 A12-9700P Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 A12-9720P Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 A12-9730P Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 A12-9800 Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Series Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 A12-9800E Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Series Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 A6-9400 Bristol Ridge 256 Radeon™ R5 Series Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 256 Shaders) AM4 A6-9500 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Series Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 A6-9500E Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Series Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 A6-9550 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Series Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 A8-9600 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Series Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 FX-9800P Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 FX-9830P Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 PRO A10-9700 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 PRO A10-9700B Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 PRO A10-9700E Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 PRO A10-9730B Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 PRO A12-9800 Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 PRO A12-9800B Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 PRO A12-9800E Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 512 Shaders) FP4 PRO A12-9830B Bristol Ridge 512 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 512 Shaders) AM4 PRO A6-9500 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 PRO A6-9500B Bristol Ridge 256 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 256 Shaders) AM4 PRO A6-9500E Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AM4 PRO A8-9600 Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R7 Graphics Radeon R7 Graphics (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 PRO A8-9600B Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) FP4 PRO A8-9630B Bristol Ridge 384 Radeon™ R5 Graphics Radeon R5 Graphics Mobile (Bristol, 384 Shaders) AMD ZEN 1-3: AMD choose to change their name scheme in 2020. Before we had Radeon Vega 3 to 11 Graphics, now it's just "Radeon Graphics" independent of existing shaders. Also there is actually "RX Vega" for everything from Vega 10 but for some reason and for some cards they omitted that. In late 2019 they introduced with the Athlon 3000G a new entry level CPU featuring a native 2 core die with a 3 CU graphics part in the desktop market. But for some very strange reason, they want to let the world believe that this one is a Picasso part, yet delidding shows that this is actually the same core like the embedded Banded Kestrel, which is also known as Dali in the consumer market and AMD itself says 14nm on its HP. Speculations are that those CPUs should be using harvested Picasso dies but the yield of those chips was too good and they made a last minute decision and used Dali cores instead. This is very confusing and almost all detection tools give wrong information. We have the situation that CPU-Z reports "Picasso" while GPU-Z says "Raven Ridge". Sadly we got no real response from CPU-Z authors to fix the incorrect reporting. Looks like they wait for official response from AMD on that matter. Anyway without knowing too much about technical details, those chips are are something between Raven Ridge and Picasso but overclocking wise it's not really making a difference. 14nm vs 12nm is actually more important. So that's why those Dali chips go in the same category as Raven Ridge. 3015e Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) 3020e Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon 200GE Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon 220GE Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon 240GE Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon 3000G Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon 300GE Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon 300U Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon 320GE Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon Gold 3150C Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon Gold 3150G Picasso 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Athlon Gold 3150GE Picasso 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Athlon Gold 3150U Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon Gold PRO 3150G Picasso 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Athlon Gold PRO 3150GE Picasso 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Athlon PRO 200GE Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon PRO 200U Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon PRO 300GE Picasso 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Athlon PRO 300U Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon Silver 3050C Dali 128 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Dali, 128 Shaders) Athlon Silver 3050e Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Athlon Silver 3050GE Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Athlon Silver 3050U Dali 128 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Dali, 128 Shaders) Athlon Silver PRO 3125GE Picasso 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 3 2200G Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 2200GE Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 2200U Raven 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 2300U Raven 384 Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 3200G Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 3 3200GE Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 3 3200U Dali 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 3250C Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 3250U Dali 192 Radeon Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 3300U Picasso 384 Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 3 4300G Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 3 4300GE Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 3 4300U Renoir 320 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 320 Shaders) Ryzen 3 PRO 2200G Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 PRO 2200GE Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 PRO 2300U Raven 384 Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 3 PRO 3200G Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 3 PRO 3200GE Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U Picasso 384 Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Radeon Vega 6 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 3 PRO 4350G Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 3 PRO 4350GE Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 3 PRO 4450U Renoir 320 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 320 Shaders) Ryzen 5 2400G Raven 704 Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 2400GE Raven 704 Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 2500U Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 2600H Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 3400G Picasso 704 Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 5 3400GE Picasso 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 5 3500U Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 5 3550H Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 5 3580U Microsoft Surface® Edition Picasso 576 Radeon Vega 9 Graphics Radeon Vega 9 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 5 4500U Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 5 4600G Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 5 4600GE Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 5 4600H Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 5 4600U Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 5 PRO 2400G Raven 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE Raven 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U Raven 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 5 PRO 3350G Picasso 640 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Picasso, 640 Shaders) Ryzen 5 PRO 3350GE Picasso 640 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Picasso, 640 Shaders) Ryzen 5 PRO 3400G Picasso 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 5 PRO 3400GE Picasso 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics (Picasso) Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U Picasso 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 5 PRO 4650GE Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U Renoir 384 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 384 Shaders) Ryzen 7 2700U Raven 640 Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 7 2800H Raven 704 Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 7 3700U Picasso 640 Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 7 3750H Picasso 640 Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 7 3780U Microsoft Surface® Edition Picasso 704 Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 7 4700G Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 7 4700GE Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 7 4700U Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 7 4800H Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 7 4800HS Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 7 4800U Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U Raven 640 Radeon Vega 10 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U Picasso 640 Radeon Vega 10 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics Mobile (Picasso) Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 7 PRO 4750GE Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U Renoir 448 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 448 Shaders) Ryzen 9 4900H Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen 9 4900HS Renoir 512 Radeon Graphics Radeon Graphics Mobile (Renoir, 512 Shaders) Ryzen R1102G Banded Kestrel 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen R1305G Banded Kestrel 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen R1505G Banded Kestrel 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen R1606G Banded Kestrel 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen V1202B Great Horned Owl 192 Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Radeon Vega 3 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen V1404I Great Horned Owl 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen V1605B Great Horned Owl 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen V1756B Great Horned Owl 512 Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Radeon Vega 8 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge) Ryzen V1807B Great Horned Owl 704 Radeon Vega 11 Graphics Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics Mobile (Raven Ridge)
    8 points
  27. HWBOT goes Patreon. Those that regularly visit the HWBOT community forum or for those that are on the LN2 Haven Discord channel are already aware that Der8auer has announced that HWBOT now has its own Patreon Page. HWBOT is going through some major changes and 2021 will be a transition year to a non buggy, more responsive and easier to understand website, entirely dedicated to our passion; Overclocking. This ofcourse goes along with extra development costs on top of the monthly Amazon server hosting fee. Therefore you can voluntarily become a HWBOT Patron, just to give us that extra push to move forward. You can find more info on how to become a Patron at the HWBOT Patreon page To reward those that support HWBOT by being a Patron, it has already been decided to host an exclusive Patron Member Competition with prizes. Competition specifics on the date and such have not been decided yet, but we are aiming around October/November. You only need to be a Basic Rate Patron Supporter for at least 6 months to be eligible to participate in this exclusive competition. To avoid any confusion, donating does not provide you extra HWBOT Boints, additional decision rights, shares nor other extras at the HWBOT site. Remember that HWBOT will remain a free to use website. So it is entirely up to you, to decide to step into this Patreon Project and to help us cover the extra development costs we are currently facing. Now if you can't spare the money or you just simply don't want to donate, you all will still be welcome to submit your overclocking scores and to engage on the Community Forum. Those that donate, thank you for your support, it is highly appreciated!
    8 points
  28. I remember back in the day must have been like 2008 or 2009 era trying to find the most obscure hw to vmod and put on chilled water to get my gold cup and 5 points even for no submission or 2-3 user categories. I really enjoyed that time. It was so pure. I hope to see us maybe get back to a mix of that and the new. Also some fresh new benches getting points would be great too. I'm confident in leeg and the new leadership will get this place back to greatness. Thanks for the discussion men.
    8 points
  29. I'm fine with points for in house benchers. Main reason - such results will be listed on main page, giving these results necessary attention of the community. Probably we should have some competitions hosted by these guys here - would be great to get a prize from HiCookie / Shamino etc. All in all, we usually get detailed guides from these guys and that is their priceless contribution.
    8 points
  30. Hello, I'd like to separate some in-depth research considering sA that started in this thread: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/187148-a7n8x-e-deluxe-as-an-alternative-for-socket-462/ I'd like to discuss some sA and NF2 specific mods to: Make instructions for beginners Investigate other BIOS mods Make some progress if possible I'd like to investigate the work done by gurus like Merlin, tictac and many others, take the best from them and maybe move ahead. It would be very nice to get over 250FSB by tuning system registers and check how it's done. I'll start with some known mods and would like those familiar with ( @Mr.Scott ,@I.nfraR.ed, @digitalbath, @Tzk, @Strunkenbold, @TerraRaptor) to check in and correct if I'm wrong: BPL mod (also NVMM in later versions) - memory init routine from NV. Newer versions are better (up to 3.19?), latest are sometimes incompatible. CPC off (=CR 2T) seems to be modded in BPL. ROMSIP - a set of tables (CPU interface on/off, and for 100/133/166/200 FSB) with CPU and chipset related settings. Influence stability, overclocking, performance. soft-L12 - a mod that acts as BSEL, forcing BIOS to implement FSB200 settings even on FSB133 CPUs. Most mod BIOSes have it, add stability on high bus speeds. modified alpha-timings (can be set using the new NF2 tweaker from Infrared) options ROMs with performance tweaks (3D-fire for example - modified chipset registers?) changed some northbridge registers (S2K control probe limit, XCAARB_RD/WRCOUNT, DQSEN_PULL_B, Auto Refresh Cycle Time, Read-to-Read Command Latency, Pre-charge All Command ) (seen on Asus A7N8X dlx mod BIOS) Please, stay to the topic, don't discuss CPU binning, memory, voltmods and other things. BIOS mods and how they affect the system is the primary goal. Do not discuss cosmetics and general BIOS techniques like opROM update, unlocking menus and so on. I believe we all know how this is done (or it can be discussed in a different topic) so we can focus on advanced stuff. Infrared's Discord channel about Socket A: https://discord.gg/YKHvEt6xct Summary of nf2 registers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZDST3XGq0oE7YtQxAME29RtopA8QcePCaHa2NBRHaB8/edit#gid=0
    7 points
  31. 7 points
  32. I have 2 new things to mention: 1. On high death rate of REX - one of the possible explanations. Board has 2 bios chips and has a bios option that allows board to start with second chip in case POST with primary chip fails (iROG crashfree bios - options are keep or switch). So, I assume and had seen it in practice, in case bios chips contain different firmware versions, settings saved in CMOS for 1301 equal dangerous settings for 1212 as an example (i.e. I had 1.7vnb with 1301, switched bios with jumper without clrcmos and on first boot it appears that vnb is set to maximum 2.1v - should I occasionally save those settings I would fry the board). Having that crashfree bios rule as switch exposes REX to this risk easily. So, two rules - flash both bios chips with same firmware and set iROG rule as "keep". Actually, I like the position of ground1556 of not having CMOS battery in REX at all too - who knows how stable that crashfree function is. 2. "DRAM static read control" should be "DDR3 read levelling" and "DRAM dynamic write control" should be "DDR3 write leveling". I always had read enabled and write disabled but it seems like both options are fine to be enabled with no performance hit. Enabled dynamic write control fixed an overclockability issue for chA (couldn't break 2GHz stable and straps 266/333 didn't work for me with that control disabled). More info on DDR3 read/srite leveling can be found here - looks like good thing: https://daffy1108.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/understanding-ddr3-write-leveling-and-read-leveling/
    7 points
  33. Some experience from me playing around with both 2x8GB and 2x16GB the last few weeks: It's hard to find IMC that does good 2x8GB on air (2000+). On LN2 should not be a problem for most cpus. But it's much harder to find IMC that does good with 2x16GB when cold! For example my ES, which has the best IMC so far, can loop PYP at 2x16GB C12-11 very tight at 2050MHz all on air. When full pot IMC tops out at just 2000. The same CPU can do 2x8GB 2200++ C12 on LN2 full pot. You have to pay attention to timings. Lower is definitely not always faster. And then balance performance vs stability. For example, with my timings TRFC 180 is worse than 220 for both PYP and 32M. Same goes for some subtimings. Some timings give slightly faster times but ends in crash 9/10 times. For me that is not worth it when another setting passes 10/10 times. For me A2 is better than A0/A1 for 2x8GB. But I haven't played so much with A0/A1 because my A2 sets are fantastic. I know A0/A1 likes slightly different timings, so maybe I didn't tweak that enough... For 2x16GB I only have A2. Best 2x16GB kit so far did around 1970MHz C12-11 32M, 2050MHz PYP. Best 2x8GB does 4300+ C12-12 32M and 4400+ PYP. 32M with benchmate is really fast on win7. I use the same OS as I do for 3D, so nothing special really. Don't have to do waza either. A good win 7 run can compete with XP for low clock challanges, but it varies more than XP. For full out XP will give you higher clocks, so XP is still better there. On ASUS make sure Round Trip Latency is enabled on mem training settings. And use latest SPI bios and maximus tweak mode 2. For 32M with 2x16GB on XP higher maxmem than 600 is better. When benching cold I would recommend 2x8GB, because unless you have a killer IMC it will have trouble handling 2x16 when cold. At least when you bench full pot. You will most likely loose MHz compared to air, unlike 2x8GB where you can see massive gains.
    7 points
  34. 50/48 4000mhz 12-11-11-18-180 SR 5min04.922 12-11-11-28-280 DR 5min04.422
    7 points
  35. Sorry to keep you waiting so long, need some time to process my VCRs. We all know, EP45 UD3R/UD3P are good boards to Core 2 Quard CPU for 500 FSB stability, but few OCer would like to use EP45/EP45T UD3 series for 700 FSB goal, they felt not so good, so as I did. Since Mr. GRIFF made 708 FSB by EP45 UD3P, I begin to pay more attention to these UD3 boards. After severals weeks, I found that UD3 boards were really good. Now, The most important point I want to say is, When CPU and NB are both with LN2 cooling, at least 50% of E0 stepping C2D E8X00 CPU can do 700 FSB CPU-Z validation, by EP45/EP45T UD3 series. If you can't make this, the first thing you suspect should be NB, or BIOS tweak, not CPU. The important BIOS options on UD3 boards for raw high FSB (in fact, they're almost the same as on the other P45 boards): Vcore: 1.40V to 1.60V (no need LLC) Vtt: 1.40V to 1.60V Vpll: 1.35V (air) to 1.59V (LN2) Vnb: 1.46V to 1.70V (get a IHS on NB chip! make sure NB cooling is good!) Vmem: your mem choice CPU Vref: 0.61x to 0.62x NB Vref: 0.578x to 0.591x CPU Clock Drive: 800mV to 1000mV CPU Clock Skew: 50ps to 100ps Performance Enhance: "Standard" Mem strap: 1:1 CPU features: all to "disable" Other BIOS options remain "auto" Mem for DDR2 UD board: Micron D9GMH Mem for DDR3 UD board: Elpida Hyper VGA: PCI card for 720+ FSB
    7 points
  36. Roman you're a reasonable guy that makes informed decisions, that's why your NOT going to make CPUZ benchmark all cores/threads 1. the community has voted, you can go against this, but all that stuff you said about HWBOT saying community based goes out the window, you lose the right to say that anymore. regardless if its true or not, this looks like asusbot, thats not good for you, the community or asus 2. this looks really salty on the back of the gigabyte beating asus, regardless if its true or not, that's how everyone is interpreting it and thats fact 3. lets look at this logically, are we going to start making people run superpi with 8c/16t? pifast? memory validation with whatever the default timings are? this is what we do, whatever is required to reach the highest frequency possible. if its amd is with all cores at 1.6ghz except the valid core, if its memory at 1000-1000-1000 whatever is the highest possible timings are, bring it on, we want to see the highest frequencies/scores ever. this is extreme overclocking! lets leave whatever has just happened between companies out of this and make a logical decision
    7 points
  37. so old rankings will be impossible to beat with CPUs that are impossible to validate as allcore with HT on? I see CPUz valid just like memory frequency, only goal is CPUz showing the frequency in the valid, no matter how that is achieved. Off course having a seperate category for allcore + ht valid would be fine I suppose.
    7 points
  38. Just finished a meeting with the programmer, new benchmark global point system will be setup this weekend, first on the test uat.hwbot.org, afterwards on the main site.
    7 points
  39. Pretty solid advice here, take a break, loosing hardware is never pleasant. We all share the pain... some don't care, others like us do...
    7 points
  40. Please remove MaxxMem entirely, it's super buggy and inconsistent. Other than that, everything seems "fine".
    7 points
  41. This one maybe bit more interesting?
    7 points
  42. And that's what Allen 2-5 spots up ? you guys have to work and compete at the highest level. Each time you have to prove yourselves. This brings a lot of pressure with it and requires total devotion on eg these launch events. People just think give me that 5.9 CPU and I'll do the same... some might just do that, however many will fail... I feel reverting back to the old point algorythm is a better solution for most... but that's for 2021
    7 points
  43. The only reason i didn’t freeze a kit so far is that i coudn’t remove damn heatspreaders. I consider that i paid 300$ for that service and not the item itself :)).
    7 points
  44. Hopefully everything will settle down and fix , let's think positive. Alby my good old friend please do not leave as you are essential for this hobby and you are a great person. Give a shout to Frederick and Roman to get all this stuff fix and i think is time for them to join the community conversation to see how we can help. Kind Regards: Angelo
    7 points
  45. Truly hope things get fixed soon so you don't have to leave it behind, you've done an excellent job keeping it afloat with very little to work with from the sound of it.
    7 points
  46. RANDOM PRIZE DRAWING WINNERS HAVE BEEN SELECTED @Broken APEX49 ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) @96ki KINGPIN Cooling T-Shirt(Please let me know Design and size choice) @phantom.ololo ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) @Nwalm KINGPIN Cooling T-Shirt(Please let me know Design and size choice) @melvinhans HP SSD EX900 M.2 120gb @KoldyTheZ11Pro ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) Winner has Replied Winners please send me a message with your complete shipping address and I will get prizes coming your way
    7 points
  47. Moved Start date to 1st of August , so you have 2 months to play
    6 points
  48. My guide + iso + tibx for XP x86 on Z490. Hopefully it helps and save your time:
    6 points
  49. Got score under 5 minuts . 5600x at 6050mhz 4:54.300 @flanker
    6 points
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