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  1. Disclaimer: all information here is my experience, I will be not responsible for any damage that may be there if you follow any instructions here. Environment and general settings · Replace stock/old TIM on NB – many OCers report that replacing stock TIM on NB helped them a lot. I would aim for <50C NB temperature in BIOS for any settings. Some stock coolers may have issues and may require dremel works to get good contact between NB IHS and cooler. Try software named MCHTemp to control overheating of NB – if too hot, NB may throttle and/or have limited FSB overclocks
    27 points
  2. Hi guys. Thought to make a guide for the new Maximus XII Apex to help some people have a base to work on. Disclaimers: Anything that is mentioned in this guide is meant to help you have a starting point. I am not responsible for any damages you do to your hardware by overclocking, modding, (extreme) cooling it or whatever else. You are responsible for your own actions assuming you know what you are doing. The “Come on I wanna bench my new hardware” tl;dr guide: Step 1: LN2 jumper -> enable Step 2: Cool down, apply your settings (4095W, LLC 6 - 8 depending on the
    24 points
  3. If I personally had the skill to work on this it would be different already but I simply don't. We hired a coder who has been trying the last weeks and months to work himself into what we have here. It's not easy but we're getting there. I can absolutely understand everyones frustration but I can promise you that I'm trying everything to make sure HWBOT 2021 will be much better than the previous years.
    23 points
  4. Let's spill some beans. Here is all I know about geekbench3 feel free to join in. 1. The best scoring versions for intel CPU's with 16 cores or less is 3.1.5 get it here https://www.dropbox.com/s/4q0xuvioq8opx30/Geekbench-3.1.5-WindowsSetup.exe?dl= (New version 3.4.3B3 here has potential. Need more testing. https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.4.3b3-WindowsSetup.exe ) 2. Best scores are with no microcode bios on z490. You will see e-penis scores with microcode because its boosts the mem sub-score but the total score is around 300 points less at 5.3ghz on 10900k. 53600 with
    19 points
  5. Short story 2nd time this month we experience lousy photoshopping. This member got reported numerous times for not respecting the new 2020 rules, meaning cpuz 1.91 version or newer, no clipping, etc.... On top of that his reputation did not help and many were watching his every move. I moderated all the reported scores yesterday , to my big surprise to see some of them popping up today with guess what: Added taskbar, CPUZ version visible and reworked GPUZ.... I admit though a few scores were neatly (re)done, too bad for him many had flaws that even my kid detected. Though I as
    18 points
  6. Alright well I have come to the conclusion I want to do a competition once a year. A way to give back to the community and support those who have supported me in my career here at HWBOT. For the first competition I am doing, we are going to say farewell to socket 1151. This comp is completely open to any generation of 1151(Z170-Z390). It will be limited to NON EXOTIC COOLING ONLY(air, water, chilled etc). You must also have never used LHe, LN2, Dice, Cascade, or SS before. We are currently looking at 5 stages and letting this run for 30-60 days. GPUPi for CPU v3.2 - 1B w
    18 points
  7. Sure. 4000€ for 3 sticks and you get the rest for free.
    18 points
  8. Reserved for more Stuff/Guides. --- There quite a few significant changes, however and below is a list that compares traditional expectations vs actual behavior of RKL: Traditional Expectations Actual RKL Behavior Memory and controller can only run in synch Memory and controller can run 1:1 or 1:2 Both odd and even DRAM ratios work Only DRAM odd ratios work for higher frequencies 100:100MHz base
    17 points
  9. 32M is a blast on rocket lake! Thought we could compile some tips to get everyone started. Feel free to add yours and I will quote you in the OP Gear 1 Mode necessary duh TRAS no longer limited to 28 go as low as you can. 16-17 should be ok to 4k mhz You need blast the SA voltage 1.55-1.65 all day VCCIO_M on the other hand doesn't need Z490 levels 1.35/1.45 has not limited in any way. wazza doesnt help much, maybe 1 second. unlike other gens you can pretty much just torque each timing as low as it will go and see a benefit RTL you can try Relaxing channe
    17 points
  10. Hello, after a few days of testing/trying here's the final ISO + TIBx for Z490 ISO: https://mega.nz/file/MJZB2CoA#uPgJY8HNq4Y2mCIuNLrk3ApwOsvo437pqvVpOLAn3hE TIBx for Acronis 2020: https://mega.nz/file/BUx2yDyB#mIU3OjDxmlipnDAkD5UrMceCJhFVl90x5NMR8VgZlew This ISO based on WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL SP3 X86 - INTEGRAL EDITION 2020.9.9: http://www.zone94.com/downloads/software/operating-systems/123-windows-xp-professional-sp3-x86-integral-edition includes lots of patches for modern hardware which improves perfomance of modern CPU's and lots of other. Additionaly integrated:
    17 points
  11. Z59OCF1.24Just freshly arrived on my doorstep, brand new retail Z590 OC Formula. Thanks daddy @NickShih for the board. Some shots of the motherboard. Bios 1.24 Easy 5066C15 at 1.95Vdimm with single rank dimms 4533C16 @ 1.65 with TridentZ Neo 3600c16 (very average B-Die sticks) HWBOT member Chispy made a bootable XP for Z590 OC Formula, you can grab it here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/8h55ndgfck10m4j/20CE0A7B83E5F08B-00-00.mrimg/file ( can be slow in download ) Use Macrium Reflect software for the above image.
    16 points
  12. The past is the past, noone wants you to forgive nor forget, I would just like all of us to move on.... Nothing me nor the new management or whatever you want to call them are affiliated with. PJ's dream was big and this resulted in some great events like Gamers Assembly in Poitiers and the ones at Computex. Some events were labelled overrated and maybe in the eyes of many not even worth to be present at all.Nevertheless it allowed people from e.g. Australia, Brazil and Indonesia to participate at the Grand OC Final in Berlin. An experience for them, that otherwise would never had been po
    16 points
  13. Hey there I hope everyone is doing good so far and you had a decent start into 2021. As you've probably seen there is some movement right now with our coder understanding more and more how things work on the bot. Albrecht is in good contact with him and I'm sure we're getting there. Right now our priority is still to fix stuff which is not working and work on the most important updates. There are few things I want to address quickly: Benchmark Updates: Albrecht created a power point for us to see what kind of changes the community wants to see regarding benchmarks. Personal
    16 points
  14. Elmor recently started taking orders for the AMPLE 20A power card. It’s a simple little single-phase VRM that can be used to replace a broken VRM or simply overcome that pesky OCP/OVP. The most common potential usage would be for a GPU memory rail. However, with an output voltage from 1.0-3.4 V it could be used for many different applications. I obtained a test sample of this new device and I intend to put it to the ultimate test. I have an RX 580 GPU with a damaged memory voltage rail, but otherwise the GPU is in perfect condition. The plan is to solder on the AMPLE power card and obser
    16 points
  15. The bot is not stopping, again it has got nothing to do with non profitable biss transactions. Roman's primary goal was to secure the database. Mission accomplished by him and Eike. Next goal is to improve the lackluster aged coding, which will be the toughest thing to achieve, mainly thanks to the overaged Java version and not receiving proper access to the coding From there on improvements and simplification to the points algorythm, interface,... but that will be 2021 projects without a doubt... I honestly wished we already had a 2020 front end and points for everyone, bye by
    15 points
  16. Apparently CPU-z wasn't bin to win enough as is. So next are we gonna ban maxmem for memory frequency valids and require all mem channels instead of just 1?
    13 points
  17. Hello my name is Amy, and honestly I never find the right words to express my feelings or what to write here, but let's have a go at it: I adore this community very much, I especially like the strong arms of @Alex@ro and @Splave and that sexy music preference of @Luumi . For the rest @Leeghoofdremains a douche for turning me down and where's my ex Websmile hiding at?
    12 points
  18. Hola everyone , as you already know this brand new architecture of AMD RDNA 2 has come in the form of RX 6xxx video cards. I can really say this video cards are fast and can trade blows with the rtx 3090 / rtx 3080 and rtx 3070 as i have tested myself. " Monster in all Firestrike benchmarks - FS/FSE/FSU " and nvidia cannot touch it there. In the wake of this new architecture some things have change in the amd drivers and in the rx 6xxx Bios too. As it stands right now amd has an artificial lock on the max clocks on the core and memory as you already might heard or know. This is the down
    11 points
  19. Credit to @Hicookie Here We Are! Z490 XOC BIOS For Overclockers Z490 AORUS ELITE https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_sqiLvwXyjeggARBG0L879P7pOcrn_GD/view?usp=sharing Z490 AORUS ELITE AC https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XwdYZkIUtukyujZdxV02sKdlY5_CXtsc Z490 AORUS MASTER https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kCDUbsxuSxNd5xgVyeKPvIsjF3hgQRlS Z490 AORUS PRO AX https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zPgV5O0mcGOVI5oOpuz42K9aNH78S7tS Z490 AORUS EXTREME https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_4BzQlB9vC8pr5n20YuumT_VMIbQAnOW Z490 AORUS EXTREME WF https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xe
    11 points
  20. Thought I'd let it go wild. A benchBIOS made by Hardware Hackers (me in particular). Been known by some for about 10 years. The thing is, I didn't add any features, it was all there done by Asus, I've just unlocked them and made some bench-related changes. List of changes: Based on latest 1024 beta Set by CMOS default: 1) No logo screen 2) Floppy disabled 3) IDE timeout = 0 4) Overclocking mode = manual 5) MPS 1.4 6) Timings set manually 7) Spread spectrum disabled 😎 Onboard devices = disabled 9) Speech POST reporter = disabled 10) USB timeout = 10sec
    11 points
  21. Thank you all for your support! Please close the sale -Return of the Jedi-
    10 points
  22. Hello my friends from Hwbot! First all, sorry my broken english, but since it’s not my mother language, I will do my best to be clear. Some people already know me, I have a lot of time on Hwbot and I have been very active in the rankings in the past. However, I am sad to noticed that an activity that we are passionate about seems to be being abandoned. Really for me, it is not very important the ranking, but for many people, especially for newcomers, Hwbot, the Worldwide League is the place for reference. I don’t like to see Hwbot only as a “overclocking database”, as
    10 points
  23. Thanks for all the kind words guys, both in this thread and in private Adding to what I said, the last 5 years just didn't feel like the hobby I fell in love with. There are no more events where you can actually meet people and bench random stuff alongside. The community is far too scattered across multiple platforms (forums, youtube, facebook) and it seems that 99%+ of current "legacy benchers" would rather own the hardware than extract scores out of it. Recently losing so many X48 boards (especially the good ones) was a really big disappointment that threw me back 5-10 years. The last
    10 points
  24. After I stumbled over over a Toshiba DDR PC2100 stick on german ebay, which had exact the same looking of the typical Winbond IC, I think Winbond are actually Toshiba. The ICs were labeled with production year 2002 in Japan. In December 1995 Toshiba and Winbond started their first technology transfer agreement and over the next years 3 other generations followed. They mentioned in April 2000 that they were the first manufacturer in Taiwan who successfully offered 0.175µm 256Mbit DRAMs. And me guesses that this was the start of the BH chip, even though the birth of the holy BH-5 should be
    10 points
  25. After some works, finally get 700 FSB validation https://hwbot.org/submission/4703644 Platform can do 680 FSB Pi 1M all by air cooling. PL value reading is wrong, it's 11 actually, not 1
    9 points
  26. In house bencher, someone either paid by a company or works for a company or given unlimited access etc. In some regards I feel this maybe the only way for us to really grow, I also can't help but to feel guilty sometimes. They can still claim world records but it gives the people a chance to accel in rankings etc.
    9 points
  27. This weekend we got some heavy maintenance planned on the database of HWBot. This could lead to you being unable to submit ( 500 error ) Sorry for any inconvenience caused, but it has to happen some time What are we doing: Removal of a lot of bot created accounts Releasing new benchmarks from Beta stage Alphabetically sorting the benchmarks Adjusting the global point system More functionality for the admins ... So just bench and hang onto them scores, no need to sub them now, The Bot will be back soon with improvements under the hood..
    9 points
  28. like many noticed the rules were hit and miss over the last week, mainly due to an issue wth the Amazon hosting and the Wordpress server HWBot still uses for articles and especially the hated rules section. So time to have a look at the curent rules and try to simplify them. So everyone can have fun again without the requirement of being a NASA engineer to analyse and understand them. An example of Maxon's Cinebench R15: Old rules: versus new rules: No more loss of time debating over the ability to be able to push the
    9 points
  29. My article. Unfortunately, this is in Russian. You can try Google Translate. Go to the article by clicking on the image. But even without translation, you will see a lot of old screenshots.
    9 points
  30. Finally an answer to, are you entertained? Yes I am.
    9 points
  31. Hi ! Just sharing some XOC BIOS and TOOL for MSI MSI MEG GODLIKE: BIOS official : MEG GODLIKE : * Link * BIOS Xtreme : MEG GODLIKE E7C70IMS.113: * Link * OC Tool : Dragon Power (CCL) : * Link * Dragon Ball (CCLM) : * Link * Tuto OC : XTREME OC GUIDE : * Link * MSI MEG "I" UNIFY: BIOS official : MEG UNIFY : * Link * BIOS Xtreme : MEG UNIFY E7C77IMS.111: * Link * MEG UNIFY E7C77IMS.112: * Link * OC Tool : Check GODLIKE section Tuto OC : Check GODLIKE secti
    8 points
  32. Didn't realise this was an issue, it's been allowed for as long as I can remember, it's allowed for other benches so why wouldn't it be for this? Gives people a better chance of needing less binning, instead of 1 core holding back 7 good ones for example. If people really do care then having two categories is reasonable, but don't see any logic getting rid of the current one.
    8 points
  33. Its often confusing which category to choose for the IGP part of a APU, so here is a incomplete list to help find you the correct one. Beema: FT3 A4 PRO-3350B Beema 128 Radeon™ R4 Graphics Radeon R4 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A4-6210 Beema 128 Radeon™ R3 Graphics Radeon R3 Graphics Mobile (Beema) FT3 A4-6250J Beema 128 Radeon™ R3 Graphics
    8 points
  34. I remember back in the day must have been like 2008 or 2009 era trying to find the most obscure hw to vmod and put on chilled water to get my gold cup and 5 points even for no submission or 2-3 user categories. I really enjoyed that time. It was so pure. I hope to see us maybe get back to a mix of that and the new. Also some fresh new benches getting points would be great too. I'm confident in leeg and the new leadership will get this place back to greatness. Thanks for the discussion men.
    8 points
  35. I'm fine with points for in house benchers. Main reason - such results will be listed on main page, giving these results necessary attention of the community. Probably we should have some competitions hosted by these guys here - would be great to get a prize from HiCookie / Shamino etc. All in all, we usually get detailed guides from these guys and that is their priceless contribution.
    8 points
  36. New version of ZenTimings, with more items, Renoir and future CPUs support. https://github.com/irusanov/ZenTimings/releases Still working on the new ZenStates version. A new Linux version based on GTK3 coming too.
    8 points
  37. Hi, posting this here since I am not sure if it has been posted previously. So, as we all know, sometimes AB comes with some limitations that require to test and find the appropriate version of AB/ABX. With this in mind, you can use Cheat Engine to lock values in the different voltage/clock memory addresses. On the following video, it is shown how to overcome the 1300 (1.3v) core voltage on the 5970. Please note that you can save the memory address as a profile on cheat engine so you can load it every time you select ab on cheat engine. That way you don't have to do th
    8 points
  38. New 0055 bios allows 2+v vdimm without ln2 mode + noucode version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7pc91xn7ksxkucc/ROG-MAXIMUS-XII-APEX-ASUS-0055.zip?dl=0 VRM tool - run exe on boot/windows startup. New tool that might help push a bit more on the cpu side / run same freq with a bit less volts (15~mv less): https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkoydak1vm0zgpb/vrm2.zip?dl=0
    8 points
  39. so old rankings will be impossible to beat with CPUs that are impossible to validate as allcore with HT on? I see CPUz valid just like memory frequency, only goal is CPUz showing the frequency in the valid, no matter how that is achieved. Off course having a seperate category for allcore + ht valid would be fine I suppose.
    7 points
  40. Sorry for my English this is a Google translator. I decided to find out the history of all competitions both world and regional. I may miss something, so if you want to tell me what I missed and I'll add it. My article, but in Russian when you click on the image. Below is the text without a description. 2002 год. 决战升技之巅--中外DIY现场群英会 The top of the Battle of abit -- Chinese and foreign DIY 全球硬件老大Tom来华玩脑 - (копир.) 1月18日晚 同济大学 决战升技之巅 - (копир.) Томас Пабст и г-н Вэн Цзыцин заместитель генерального директора Abit Computers (Гонконг) Co., Ltd. Фото
    7 points
  41. Please remove MaxxMem entirely, it's super buggy and inconsistent. Other than that, everything seems "fine".
    7 points
  42. This one maybe bit more interesting?
    7 points
  43. The only reason i didn’t freeze a kit so far is that i coudn’t remove damn heatspreaders. I consider that i paid 300$ for that service and not the item itself :)).
    7 points
  44. Hopefully everything will settle down and fix , let's think positive. Alby my good old friend please do not leave as you are essential for this hobby and you are a great person. Give a shout to Frederick and Roman to get all this stuff fix and i think is time for them to join the community conversation to see how we can help. Kind Regards: Angelo
    7 points
  45. Truly hope things get fixed soon so you don't have to leave it behind, you've done an excellent job keeping it afloat with very little to work with from the sound of it.
    7 points
  46. RANDOM PRIZE DRAWING WINNERS HAVE BEEN SELECTED @Broken APEX49 ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) @96ki KINGPIN Cooling T-Shirt(Please let me know Design and size choice) @phantom.ololo ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) @Nwalm KINGPIN Cooling T-Shirt(Please let me know Design and size choice) @melvinhans HP SSD EX900 M.2 120gb @KoldyTheZ11Pro ATLAS Bench Stand(Please let me know which color) Winner has Replied Winners please send me a message with your complete shipping address and I will get prizes coming your way
    7 points
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  48. My procedure for installing Windows XP on M12A, derived from previous work Firahelper for Z490: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Atmpv-6qHr_6vcIGjGDDdVQjURrIcA?e=JTDLyq Then the ISO needs to be modified: Extract your ISO using 7-zip to a temporary folder and go to the “i386” subfolder Replace “ACPI.SY_” and “SYSSETUP.DL_” with the files from “Z390 Files.zip”: Extract DRIVERS.CAB and SP3.CAB using 7-zip Replace “acpi.sys” in those folders (if it exists, may be missing in SP3.CAB) with the file from “Z390 Files.zip” Re-package the “DRIVERS” and “SP3” folders
    7 points
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