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  1. 16 points
    A little bit of progress, this is already quite a few revisions in...
  2. 12 points
    It's not dead at all! I have had multiple success stories. I was a noob bencher having done DICE a few times when a few guys from OCN, pulled me aside and asked if I wanted to be part the Skype benching community. With a lot of encouragement and also some very helpful info I started to bench almost every weekend. I learned how hwbot works and started gaining points. After a few years I had made it to #1 in apprentice by running tons of dry ice and learning how to mod GPU's. Once I made it to #1 in apprentice I became stagnate and had difficulties gaining points with dry ice. Due to financial reasons, LN2 was not an option. @Splave took notice of what I was doing with DICE and GPU modding by my posts on Facebook. He generously offered to help me out by sending me a box with 30+ old GPU's that he didn't want. Furthermore, he offered to help me make the transition to LN2 and gave me a 50L dewar for the price of shipping. Splave's help didn't stop there, he continued to support my endeavors and teach me the world of LN2 benching. Eventually I ended up getting supported by ASRock for platform hardware. I devoted a few solid years to LN2 benching and pushing myself and the hardware as far as it would go. Splave continues to help and support me to this day... Throughout the years I have worked hard to give back as much as possible and build up the OCN team. Sharing of information and creating a family-like environment has been critical to OCN's success. We are constantly evolving and working on promoting overclocking though benchmarking competitions such as the Freezer' Burn competitions. Speaking of competitions, I am working with vendors now to get huge prize support for the next competition, which will happen at the end of this year. I see some limitations at Hwbot, but no, overclocking is not dead, it just looks a little different now that it has in the past.
  3. 12 points
    To put a lot of unnecessary pressure on myself: I am going to release the first version of my generic wrapper on the 11th of April. Regarding donations/financing, let's talk about that when the first version is out and stable.
  4. 11 points
    K guys time to get crancking again after a month off To open the field to everyone I want to try out a Low Level Clock challenge in a few divisions. Meaning some divisions will be MHz limited and a few even also temp limited. I already discussed our monitoring options with some very old german moderator. For monitoring use either: HWinfo V6.00, CPUID HardwareMonitor Pro or Open Hardware Monitor Open Hardware monitor can be downloaded here: LINK CPUID Hardware Monitor Pro: LINK HWINFO: LINK Ensure that the maximum CPU frequency is being monitored and if needed the idle and load temps (during the run)!!!! . Div VII : Intel legacy: LGA1150 or older socket with a max CPU speed of 4703MHz + Pos. Temp limit GPUPI 100 v3.3 3DMARK11 PHYSX (ver link required) X265 1080P PI32M DIV VI: AMD legacy: AM3+, FM1 or older socket with a max CPU speed of 4503MHz + Pos. Temp limit GPUPI 100 v3.3 3DMARK11 PHYSX (ver link required) X265 1080P PI32M DIV V: Dual core only, max CPU speed of 5103MHz GPUPI 1B v3.3 Cinebench R15 X265 1080P PI32M DIV IV: Quad core only, max CPU speed of 5203MHz GPUPI 1B v3.3 Cinebench R15 X265 4K PI32M DIV III: Hexa core only, max CPU speed of 5303MHz Geekbench4 Multi core Cinebench R11.5 X265 4K 3DMark 11Physx (ver link required) DIV II: Octa core only, max CPU speed of 5403MHz Geekbench4 Multi core Cinebench R15 X265 4K 3DMark 11Physx (ver link required) DIV I: max CPU speed of 5503MHz (no LGA 3647) Geekbench4 Multi core Cinebench R11.5 (divided per core) X265 4K 3DMark TimeSpy Physx (ver link required) This will only work of everybody abides to the speed (and temp limitation) therefore a general warning is already included in this proposal: get caught cheating and it will be instant ban. I don't care bout your current status or Instagram level. Either you play by the rules or you can find something else to do in the upcoming months. Current round will focus on 2D only, The next round same CPU specs but with GPU limitation and 3D only. Round 3 will be a mix of 2 and 3D Example of a valid screenshot: no clipping so full res desktop screenie Taskbar fully visible and time CPU-Z for CPU, memory and mainboard tab CPU Maximum frequency and temp ( if required) during the run
  5. 11 points
    Want to simplify code and decrease server load, and at the same time decrease load on your poor already short staff? 2 Leagues Pro/Sponsored Everybody else Stop with the silly leagues by cooling method in which temperature can't be proven anyway. Want to move up the ranks? Move up your game. It doesn't get any simpler than that.
  6. 8 points
    I agree any snipping should be outlawed completely taskbar and full screen should be shown in all subs.
  7. 7 points
    @_mat_ Oh, if it isn't clear enough from our previous interactions already, you have my permission to integrate BenchMate with y-cruncher. Just keep me updated with what you have in mind. I'm willing to make any minor changes that are needed if they would make the integration easier and/or more secure. I just won't have the time resources for anything significant. If it's useful, I can also give you access to the source code for the HWBOT submitter and verification algorithm for the stage 1 protection of the validation files. (which is all that's currently enforced for HWBOT anyway)
  8. 7 points
    Hi John welcome to hwbot, its unfortunate it took you this long to make an account and be represented on hwbot especially if you care about our community Bench-mate does not subvert the licensing to geekbench at all, you run geekbench via the launcher (benchmate) and include your key if you want to use the 64 bit version. (trial is limited to 32bit). I can see why you may not have liked the software being bundled. (make take some clicks away from your site etc.) But it also makes it seamless and distributing what amounts to shareware will just lead back to people buying the key for 64 bit off your site no? How can this be fixed and moved forward in your mind? Thanks again. EDIT: I apologize for anyone calling you names. Surely that is childish and will be fixed by the mods. Most of us are grown ups here.
  9. 7 points
    I'm fine with dumping geek bench. It's become bug bench anyways, maybe Matt can secure 2 other benches to replace them that are open source. Black hole time!
  10. 7 points
    BenchMate 0.9 is here! After six weeks of (absolutely necessary) legwork I'm finally releasing the next major version of my Benchmark Verfication Software. All reported bugs have been fixed, a good part of the benchmark integration rewritten. I also put more effort into supporting Windows 7 and have extensively tested it on multiple platforms. If you like where this is going, spread the word and bench your stuff with BenchMate whenever possible. This is the most secure, reliable and trustworthy option to present your overclocking achievements. 💪 Download | Change Log | Donate
  11. 7 points
    your choice how hard you push... never had any issues with the benchmark... It's still OC right...
  12. 7 points
    TUSL2-C is natively compatible with tualatin core, CUSL2 requires mods to hardware to run tualatins. On the other hand, TUSL2 won't run mendocino celerons. I would pick TUSL2 of these two boards. Mendocino celerons are not that popular. Another challenge will be to get the following 2 things: IDE-SATA adaptor (to allow high fsb overclocks - native IDE drives won't let you overclock more than 20-30% in a lot of cases) and good memory that is able to go >200MHz CL2-2-2 (that is Quimonda chips of >2007 production - memory performance is crucial with s370). And probably you should also have several AGP cards as it also may limit your overclock (however, most simple agp cards as GF2MX, GF4MX should allow agp overclocking over 100MHz from stock 66MHz and the problem may be overclocking of AGP over 127-130MHz). You can look for Gigabyte 6OXET as alternative - these are rather difficult to find but they should be cheaper being considered garbage by many second hand resellers. I was able to hit even more stable overclocks with it but killed it during research.
  13. 7 points
  14. 6 points
  15. 6 points
    Initial loops would be really quick but then the final few would never end.
  16. 6 points
    Completed and sent to @GeorgeStorm Prise for this cup is: 1° place - selected Asus TUSL2-C 246+ mhz fsb 2° place - selected Pentium lll 1400 Tualatin 3° place - selected SDR ram 208 mhz CL2
  17. 6 points
    Some of my Hyper runs from nearly a decade ago LN2 RAM on mini ITX before it got mainstream
  18. 6 points
    Thanks all for casting your votes. No benchmarks will be disabled for hardware points, and Geekbench3 - Single Core and Geekbench4 - Multi Core will be eligible for points in the next update. ETA this week.
  19. 6 points
    I'm sorry to say this because the developer works hard on it but x265 4k is a cpu killer and should be disabled for globals. I'm not talking randomly either, if you run it on ln2 with a modern cpu there is a greater than 50% chance it won't work the next day R15 has become a slot machine +(-)30 points on a 6 core. R11.5 is still consistent though figure that out.
  20. 6 points
    My latest 24 hours regarding HWBOT. 1) Over 1000 e-mail messages, FB messages, phone calls and SMS messages. Common parameter in all - Frustration, anxiety, elevated stress levels. 2) Common questions - sell and get out ? --- Wait and see ? ---- Sell old HW and an arm and a leg and buy modern expensive HW ? Turbulence, confusion. Agreed, most people do not have the necessary self-discipline and life experience to see a hurricane hitting their head, while an hour ago all was calm. But, for a playground ? This is not family, business or whatever else, where a sudden event can bring life upside down. This is supposed to be a hobby. A hobby can be done at home alone, or thru broader channels ( Team Work ). UTMOST CONSIDERATION MUST BE EXHIBITED BEFORE REACHING FINAL DECISIONS. Shame that after so many revisions, a stable platform can't be found. My best wishes for a viable solution. Otherwise I predict a real avalanche wiping whatever is left
  21. 6 points
    Is there anyway to keep hardware points as a contributing factor to the rankings? Current proposal is hardware points only count to hardware masters league correct?
  22. 5 points
    Isn't this a bit early for an idea thread for Country Cup? Yes it is, if this was normal year, which it isn't because: 1) there's a plan to run CC a little earlier this year 2) It's the 10th anniversary of this great competition! Why not celebrate it in a special way? Idea #1 Make the competition 10 stages, one picked from each of the last 10 years (with hardware restrictions adjusted where appropriate). This could take the form of a poll or just a discussion thread, I'm not sure which way to go because a poll is democratic but with 10 questions could end up with a low number of votes. What do you think? Here are the stages over the last 10 years (for reference): Idea #2 This is kind of a "stretch goal" version of idea #1. Same deal, still 10 stages from the last 10 years but this time the winning team from each year can pick the stages. I know it could be a lot of work but I think it's kind of a cool way of deciding that is less likely to turn into a never-ending discussion. To make sure that one country doesn't dominate this process I further propose allowing each country only one pick and giving the second place / third place team the pick as appropriate. i.e. the bolded teams in this list get to pick the stage from that particular year: Looking forward to hearing your responses! Thanks to @Bilko for helping to come up with this concept
  23. 5 points
    I'm going to make a break until I get more cpus with this board but here is the latest I've done - 269 1:1 2-2-2-11 (which is actually the absolute limit of my ram even with s939) https://hwbot.org/submission/4242478_terraraptor_superpi___1m_sempron_2200_(thoroughbred)_39sec_247ms To break above 258-260MHz I change 2 registers in b0d0f3 with wpcredit - offset 66 & 68 set to C7. Voltages are Vcpu 1.85v, Vnb 2.05v, Vdimm 3.8v. The system is not stable at these clocks and it took me several attempts. 265-266Mhz are much better. Another important notice - once you ran into instability you should power off completely, boot once with fsb 100 and then back to high fsb (I boot with 255 and then raise it with clockgen to the desired value with 1.5-2Mhz steps). Booting once with low fsb is essential - seems like chipset resets something inside with new strap. I have tried to reproduce this result with NF7-S v2 using exact same hardware but no success - system is unstable above 261.5Mhz. Good luck all!
  24. 5 points
    I'm currently working on the integration of pifast into BenchMate. This poses a new challenge because pifast is a command line tool called with a batch file. It's hard to secure but also not very user-friendly or presentable. So I've built a wrapper this week that allows integration of all command line benchmarks. Sneak a peek of the first screenshot:
  25. 5 points
    Hey guys, I am selling my MSI MPG Z390I Gaming Edge AC because I just don't have much use for it. The board has less than 20 hours total usage and its in perfect working condition. I purchased the board from Amazon a few months ago, and the box + accessories are mint. The list of mods I have done are as follows: 5 small mods for LN2 usage Potentiometer with disable switch for DDR4 memory voltage DDR4 memory voltage read point sockets to attach your voltmeter Special bios from Toppc with built in profiles for memory frequency validation Syringe style liquid electrical tape insulation on top Spray plastidip insulation on the bottom It's $190 on Amazon, I am looking to get $130 shipped USA or $120 + actual international shipping
  26. 5 points
    Easiest way to check what limits you is to use different "straps" and low multi coppermine d0. First check fsb limit of cpu with 133/100 and write down clocks for pci (if waza locks system at given fsb - then it is ide limit). Then go 133/133 to find memory limit. Then check 66/100 to see if you can break the pci clocks of 133/100 while staying with dram below limit of 133/133. PS. IDE is definitely a problem. Japanese were using IBM fireballs if i'm not mistaken in early 00's which were known to stand 50-55 mhz ide clocks.
  27. 5 points
    That's entirely unfair. There were many competitions in the past that new people are incapable of participating in and receiving points from, so you're basically just allowing people who've been here since 2006 like thousands of extra points that literally no one else can ever get. I think competitions should make an impact, but there needs to be a cap so that new people can eventually be competitive, by putting in the time, in new competitions that they are capable of participating in.
  28. 5 points
    Hey guys, I'm selling the best 8700K I found so far! Did 6970MHz on LN2, but not screened...anway 6950 was screened! 5600 R15 water with liquid metal and 5500 Prime!!! Really an amazing piece of silicon! 800 €.... Now 750€ Shipping in Germany 6€, EU 12€, WW drop me a pm
  29. 5 points
    Well I never posted any BIOS made by elmor. But heres the latest one from Dsanke. See attachment. Dec 19 2018 [12:47 PM] dsanke: Author: @dsanke Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS IX APEX Based on: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X APEX 1801 ME: 11.7.0.1229 Microcodes: 506E0(0x18),506E1(0x2A),506E2(0x2E),506E3(0x74),506E8(0x34),906E9(0x5E),906EA(0x6A),906EB(0x5E),906EC(0x84). Note: Flash via SPI Programmer. Support All LGA1151 CPU except Xeon and Skylake ES. AURA/SLI Fixed. $ md5sum ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801.7z ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801.bin 0c6637e1ea85f94f72dadd57c5c141b5 ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801.7z 968d92d84f2869f69ca759c2452937b4 ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801.bin ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX-ASUS-1801.7z
  30. 5 points
    May be able to solve 1151v2 issue, just getting the go ahead. Edit: In the process of fixing 1151/1151v2 for R15 and x265, please link any scores that don't seem to be correct. Also please moan at me not Leeg/others if things start to break, as it's all my fault. 1151 / 1151 v2 should also work for ref freq stage as that's still being done by cpu socket, obviously still have issues with AMD AM3/AM3+ etc
  31. 5 points
    It is static because very few put the time in. Can't have a team or person thats active for more than 10 years tossed to the side by little Jonny and his gaming rig that throws a half a dozen subs in and disappears forever. You don't need to reward new members like that. Noobs have to put their time in to see themselves rise the ladder. That's how it works in every aspect of life...........unless you're a millennial. They have the competitions for instant gratification if thats what they desire.
  32. 4 points
    This is almost certainly now the single greatest thread we've ever had on this forum I believe
  33. 4 points
    as long as it is ONE processor it's all systems go, I did not put any limitations for Xeons or such this time
  34. 4 points
    I'm very glad to hear this! The interface has always been on-package PCIe 3.0 x8 anyway so it's definitely the best way to deal with them.
  35. 4 points
    Albrecht is awesome, truly a huge loss to the community if he quits. He has always been fair, open, and willing to do whatever he can to help anytime I talked to him. I don't want to see him go, but honestly can't blame him if he does. He has way thicker skin than I do, I'm surprised he made it this long PS. websmile did a great job too, and has even helped me out after his "retirement" PSS. This thread is about unpaid volunteer help catching crap daily, meanwhile the guy lining his pockets doesn't care at all, and hasn't even bothered to sign in since Oct 2nd.
  36. 4 points
  37. 4 points
    I didn't know Matt had setup a donation page until seeing this thread. Don't have patreon account, so donated via paypal. Thanks for all the hard work Matt!!
  38. 4 points
    Managed to have a quick look through, sorry for being so absent. The standings look correct, being lenient on rules due to participation and the standings wouldn't have changed regardless. Congratulations to all who took part, hopefully next time I'll be able to be more active! If I've missed anything please let me know!
  39. 4 points
    Let's do this! I am working on 0.7.2 right now, fixes a few bugs and also has a few improvements. CINEBENCH and Geekbench integration was reworked as well.
  40. 4 points
    In hindsight I shouldn't have agreed to do this as it turned out I didn't have any time, and yes I set up some things wrong, and then got things wrong when moderating. Leeg is trying to salvage things, I just did a simple if not valid no good, a lot of people took valid just to mean not lod etc. I hadn't noticed the system info issues as I assumed 3dmark valid required latest system info again my bad. If we want to follow the rules as written that's fine, just mean a lot more removed scores I believe, which seems a shame for a fun comp. This was meant to be a fun comp, and so there can be flexibility, trying to give those who entered some voice, being rude isn't going to help anyone.
  41. 4 points
    Thing is the number of comps held is up to the staff, they can if they want increase the number of comps held if they want. I know things have changed in the way of less comps in recent times but that in itself as all other things are could well be changed in the other direction too. You do make a good point about how comp points were dropping off but that could be subject to change too if the staff decides to do so. As for catching up it's no different than it was for us when we started off, we too were behind the rest when we started but with time we managed to catch up. Also look at the number of new guys that stuck with it and climbed the rankings in short order, a big part of it is up to the bencher. There are also guys who have half the time if that much in it I have that's ranked above me, that in itself proves it's not solely a matter of time being involved, it's at least in part the commitment and effort given by the bencher. I don't see the fairness in discounting what the older guys have done, all of us still had to put in the same effort and expense to do it and that shoudn't change for anyone if it's to be done equally across the board, what one earns is theirs. The new guys can participate in comps in the same way we have, it's all up to them to either do so or not. No amount of accomidation can change that if they aren't willing to work for what they get, same as we've had to do all along. Speaking of the number of comps held, the staff could look back and see how those were done and possibly use it for an idea or template for planning future comps if they want, it's certainly possible to do.
  42. 4 points
    Well as I said with globals versus HW, the maximum point totals for each type of points should balance out so that you need to max out all three to rise up the rankings. So if some people have 5x 250 pts for live competitions they would have a 1250pts boost over someone who hasn't (or couldn't) compete. Obviously there needs a balance somewhere, but the points are insanely high compared to any other point values.
  43. 4 points
    Some numbers comparison between 4112C12-1t vs. 4772C14-2t @websmile
  44. 4 points
    Newsflash, pretty much every benchmark can be hacked given enough time and skill. Question is is it worth spending dev time actively combatting hackers when the only gain is temporary internet fame? Benchmark makers should prevent easy cheating (like adjusting the windows clock), but injecting dll's/modifying code?
  45. 4 points
  46. 4 points
    You still don´t get the point - people take risks since 10 years like splave, but if there are no signs where the limits are at, you toss a coin. No one will be happy if cpus die randomly and limiting current or volts means you can skip the benchmark where you have to do it for obvious reasons, plus you have not even a guarantee this helps that the cpu survives. The discussion leads nowhere bc you practically say that you should drive a f1 at half speed bc engine can blow up if you go full out, nontheless some people will go full out because they want points in the ranking, especially people who dont care because they have es or sponsored cpus anyway The most funny part of this discussion is that guys adress it which are in a priviledged position compared to normal user - on some of their cpus they do not even have to pay. About the relevance, how much more avx benchmarks that people at top flight do not bench if things go on the way they do you see as relevant? We had a major y cruncher desaster at wc finals, people nag about xtu all the time, now we see a very good benchmark like x265 under fire and even on some 3marks we now have avx at cpu tests according to benchers. We can include these all at hwbot, but we do not discuss about the benchmarks themselves here but about global points. As soon as you give global points you practically force people into doing a benchmark if they fight for ranking
  47. 4 points
  48. 4 points
    Bumping this. Reasoning: Less load on server due to less to calc, and a more realistic outlook on standings. I propose a 1 year limit on whether you're deemed active or not. IE: no subs for a year or more, you are inactive for your team.
  49. 4 points
    You will still get comp points, but they will only count towards seasonal ranking. Same as how it works now, comp points last for 1 year which makes sense because the comps are held annually.
  50. 4 points
    Of course I am not the most objective person on the planet; far from that actually And got a bit "tilted" about the 03 thing tbh (nothing against yosarian ofc). Coming up with suggestions to improve the new format and everything takes time. Time that was already spent less than a year ago and no matter how it looks now, it will def need fixes once rev8 is out. That was my main issue; everyone will need to re-adapt again. Will need to check it in more detail during the weekend.
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