Mr.Scott
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2281466
No slouch, but no NF7 either. Well done Ivan.
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Don't know about only 9 in the world but that IP45 Pro is pretty rare.
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time Zone Mr. Scott?
EST US and Canada (GMT -5:00)
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Slow as a bitch as I post this right now. Always seems to be around this time for me. 3-5pm
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If you get the key before benchmark supports and sales was discontinued - ok, nothing illegal with that.
But for now, the оnly way to get a key for PCMark04 is... using goggle for it.
I not sure "generated" keys, even for discontinued benchmark, is legal.
Not sure it matters anymore. You can't get an ORB validation for it anymore and that would be the only thing that would really be illegal about using a generated key.
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Grammar check "fix" was used by I.nfraR.ed for HWBOT OC Challenge June 2011, so I guess it is legal.
The only one thing that can be considered as illegal is registering the benchmark with a key.
But this benchmark not available for sale long time ago and we just not have any other options to get that "fix" working.
OK, I know the 'fix', but 'replace' was the word used so it threw me off.
Next question, why would registering the benchmark be illegal? I mean, if you have a key why not use it?
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Is there a lot of difference between the NF7 and the NF7-S ? I have the first lying around somewhere
The only difference is SATA.
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can you replace the grammar check?
A better question would be, if you are, is it legal?
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But still own the NF7-S that did 281 FSB
Oh I'm fully aware that you do.
None of my socket A Abit boards will beat that, so it's off to the BE6-II. I'll still submit in socket A but don't really have a chance. It'll be fun though.
Pretty sure I still have an AN8 here too............somewhere.
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There are no AM2+/AM3 boards At least AM2 boards' cpu support list stops at X2 models (Brisbane/Windsor).
On the other hand, s.939 is not included
.The AX78 officially supported Agena 9500 and 9600's.
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lol - My much-loved BE6-II finally died about two weeks ago! Go figure.
Mine is alive and well.
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Like the idea for the comp. It's all about the board. Cool.
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Isn't the goal of HWBot to push the hardware to the limit? Not everybody has the money to always buy the latest Hardware so we have to provide the space for ppl buying older graphics cards so they can still overclock these. Plus not everybody likes the latest hardware. Overclocking a GeForce 8 or 9 series is much more fun for me than overclocking a GTX580.
Even these days ppl submit a lot of scores using e.g. a 8800GT and it's nice to see new WRs there from time to time - that's what HWBot is for. I don't want a closed ranking and someone comes up on another forum saying "the scores on HWBot are not even the real WRs - I have much higher scores."
IMO the hardware sharing isn't a problem anymore since rev. 4.
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Is not limite best score.
The best score will be able .... but only 1 score per benchmark...
So... everybody will take equal chances...
If the guy haves best score with 4 cards...or with 1 card... only will get his best score.
If the guy do not have 4 cards... he can compete same chances...and take his best score.
If the guy knows "for exemple" how to bench Unigine or 3DM11... and have 4 good cards in the air... he will take lots of points more than the guy that can do same work but only haves one card.
Bummer. IMO, if somebody can excel in multiple categories (IE different card count) of the same bench, they should be rewarded for it. They should never have to take a back seat to somebody with a lesser score just because they can compete in other categories. I just can't understand how you think that would be fair.
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Understood. I see no reason to not be able to get points in all 4 categories (1x-4x) cards, if you have the equipment. Why should you be limited to best score only if you have the means to be best in all of them?
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Not for nothing but, wouldn't that be defeating the purpose of how the 3 leagues were broken down in the first place? In my understanding, the Pro league was for sponsored guys or guys that felt they could compete with sponsored guys on the same level. The other 2 remaining leagues were split via cooling method, to alleviate the 'we can't compete with the extreme cold guys fairly' bitching. It never had anything to do with cost of hardware. IMO, there should be no further break down of leagues than what I posted above. Can't afford a 3 or 4 card setup?, then you don't bench a 3 or 4 card setup and don't expect to compete with the guys that do. Common sense prevails here. What ever happened to KISS?
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Well.... the more popular a category is, the more popular it will become. If a category only has a few points, only those who...."care" about that piece of hardware or put emphasis on silverware will bench it. Applies to every category.
Yes, I guess that's true.
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Nice Frank.
I see tons of improvement available too.
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Honda wants fuschia
It scares me that you even knew how to spell that.
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I'm more pleased the we can have a civil discussion, than anything about PCM05. Thank you for that.
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I see you changed the FX-55 to the Opty 165
Well......We see "weird" leaderboards during the transition, but once the new rules affect all the leaderboards, things will look "right" again. ie.... single core loses to dusl-core, loses to dual-core w/HT etc.
There are plenty of GPU categories where higher spec doesn't have better scores. E.G.... GTX260-216 Vs GTX280.
I wanted a more drastic example. You caught the post as I was editing.
I understand the board will level out eventually, but that doesn't make it right.
Besides, almost nobody will bench using the tweaks on old hardware. Somebody could make a substantial killing in hardware points on the old platforms should they decide to apply themselves to it, and those rankings may never level out.
If it's now just about global points, then omit hardware points for PCM05.
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I can see your point here... But at the same time... Look at it like this...
The Dual Core... with the same tweaks would then be able to stomp all over the Single Core.
That is why my stance is that this is still very much a hardware bench. The hardware STILL matters. The tweaks only affect the efficiency of the given hardware.
See....it's a vicious circle pending your point of view. Being a hardware bench, I see the hardware first and foremost.
You see the tweaks being more important than the actual hardware.
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Did you mean to have the same MHz for both examples?
Yes, but they are just examples. My point was that a single core at the same speed of a dual core, with the same periferal extra hardware, using tweaks/hacks, should never be able to beat said dual core that's using no tweaks. Unless I'm mistaken and PCM05 is a totally single threaded app.
A tweaked single core should never beat a dual at the same speed ever. Yet I can find examples of it in the rankings. That's why this is no longer a hardware bench.
Veld - BF6 @ 187MHz - 187.01 MHz Reference Clock
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Hell of a run. Gonna be tough to catch. Good job.