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  1. 35 minutes ago, Splave said:

    3D benching as we know it is broken. Plain and simple. What are we going to do about it? RTX-4090's are great cards but they also bug very easily. We need to be better users. If you see your score jump 1k point after raising your mem clock 15mhz that is not normal and not a "lucky" run. When your entire screen is tan from an artifact spanning your entire monitor and your score increases 10% it is not a "lucky run." In my opinion after a first warning we should issue a vacation for the user. 

    After 2 minutes of research it is quite easy to see a bugged run. 

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    Which 2 look normal, which 2 look equally strange? Going from the pictures alone is easy but when I add the clock frequencies maybe it can help you even more. 

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    I propose that:

    1. If you post a known bugged run you get a warning, then a vacation.

    2. If you are "unsure" then ask a mod or even me if it seems out of line. It is quite easy to read. 

    3. We require monitoring already in 3dMark benches, I propose we show the FPS and FPS average graph section in the result screenshot, if you cant fit it add a second screenshot with it. 

    4. Always welcome to video / disclose tweaks to mods for doubters. 

     

    With the blessing of Roman/Albrecht, people have a week to remove results that "oh maybe it did have a lot of artifacts, or maybe it does seem too high" before we dive in and hand our warnings, or vacations for multiple infractions. 

     

    Im sorry if you feel like I am always the one exposing this stuff, but why do I always have to be the one to do it?  We all work hard on this stuff and an even playing field is the of the utmost importance. Without it this places means nothing. Let's do better, and be better. 

     

     

     

    That was all that was missing.
    It's been a long time that I don't post results in the league, but also it's been a long time the 3D benchmark has more influence on a good assembly (mounting), not breaking the thermal paste (which needs to be the best and from the best batch), and of course, having a chip gold awarded.
    But result bug for records is the last.

    Thanks for sharing. 

  2. I would like to do a resquest, to your analisys.

    There are 2 special benchmarks that I think should be included for Global.

     

    One is GPUpi 1B, because will show the highest frequency some graphic card can run a test.

    GPUpi 32B is heavier, and so, the overclocker cannot run with too high clocks, so is very impressive to see running @ 3 Ghz or more.

     

    The second is Catzilla, that's a very nice 3D bench allowed for Global points in the past (2 versions, 720P and 1440P).

    It would be great to see Catzilla 1440P again on ranking for Global points, since requires very strong performance and tweaks.

    Just for reference, Allion Labs, I think one of the most important certification labs in the world, uses Catzilla for tests, since will have very strong requests and peaks.

    Who remember the crashs under Raymark, know what I'm talking about.

     

    Best wishes for all overclocker.

  3. On 2/2/2021 at 6:02 PM, Leeghoofd said:

    Just propose it in the 3D thread Ronaldo. This thread is about the rules...

     

    Users found GPU1B too fast, (yes you can claim +3GHz core clocks)

    Users nearly crucified me for wanting to introduce Catzilla 4K, but I'll leave it up to you to persuade them to reconsider :) 

    No, mate, I consider that you do a great job in the league, Indispensable for the organization of the HWBOT.
    Sorry if I posted in the wrong place, but I really find these two benchmarks interesting for the reasons I mentioned.

    In any case, we are a community and I understand that the majority should prevail.,

  4. I would like to do a resquest, to your analisys.

    There are 2 special benchmarks that I think should be included for Global.

     

    One is GPUpi 1B, because will show the highest frequency some graphic card can run a test.

    GPUpi 32B is heavier, and so, the overclocker cannot run with too high clocks, so is very impressive to see running @ 3 Ghz or more.

     

    The second is Catzilla, that's a very nice 3D bench allowed for Global points in the past (2 versions, 720P and 1440P).

    It would be great to see Catzilla 1440P again on ranking for Global points, since requires very strong performance and tweaks.

    Just for reference, Allion Labs, I think one of the most important certification labs in the world, uses Catzilla for tests, since will have very strong requests and peaks.

    Who remember the crashs under Raymark, know what I'm talking about.

     

    Best wishes for all overclocker.

     

  5. 1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said:

     

    That one is perfectly fine or if you use Benchmate yo can even partly cover the rendered scene as BecnhMate checks the integrity of the rendered file.

     

    We only removed globals from benchmarks that were decided in the 3D Thread Ronaldo. HWBOT followed the inputs that some of the listed 3D benchmarks were becoming more and more CPU benchmarks, therefore we reached a compromise in the thread and via several PMs to move eg Vantage to Vantage Extreme and so on... 

    Your great scores are still there and still topping the ranking. Globals will always be something temporary, being it for one or for five years. This is not the first time this happened to 3D right? You are again required to put the focus on another benchmark and learn to master that one, not that you need to really learn anything anymore.

    Well my friend.

    I was not be part of this Thread, but I told it's no my decision.

    For me, both, Extreme and Performance should be valid, because settings are different.

    Time Spy matter much more CPU than Time Spy Extreme, Fire Strike Ultra has less CPU than Fire Strike and so on.

    For this reason, in my opinion and since we need to give diffeerent focus, I understand that both should be valid for globals.

    But as I told you, it's not up to me, but the community.

     

    Best wishes

     

  6. Removed Fire Strike Ultra...

    Removed Fire Strike...

    Removed Time Spy...

    Removed Vantage Performance...

    Removed GPUPi 1B...

    Removed Catzilla in the past.

     

    Instead to add more benchmarks and keep the old, to have more options.

    This make all efforts made I made for push good scores, useless, in my opinion.

    It also removes the desire to fight for good results, because when Hwbot decide, it will be worthless.
    So many results and so much wasted effort.

    That's a pity, I am pretty sure many people like me disagree, but I have no power to decide.

     

     

    Best wishes for all.

     

     

     

     

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