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  1. Futuremark are expanding the VRMark benchmark suite to now include the Cyan Room benchmark, a DirectX 12 benchmark test for VR applications. From Novemeber 22nd 2017, the Cyan Room test will be added as a free update for VRMark Advanced Edition and VRMark Professional Editions. VRMark Cyan Room - DirectX 12 benchmark for VR VRMark is a benchmarking application for measuring VR performance. You can run VRMark tests on your monitor—no headset required—or on a connected HMD. Each benchmark runs on a fixed path, which makes it easy to repeat the test on other systems to compare performance. Cyan Room is a new DirectX 12 benchmark test for VR. It uses a pure DirectX 12 engine built in-house and optimized for VR. It features a large, complex environment and many eye-catching effects. Cyan Room shows how using an API with less overhead can help developers deliver impressive VR experiences even on modest PC systems. VRMark's Experience mode will let you explore the Cyan Room in your own time. You can change the rendering resolution and other settings to make the scene more or less demanding. VR headsets use clever techniques to compensate for missed frames. Using Experience mode with a VR headset is a great way to see how system performance affects your VR experience. You can learn more about VRMark and the new Cyan Room test here on the Futuremark website.
  2. The climax of the Overclocking World Championship is almost upon us with the OCWC 2017 Final happening just a few sort weeks from now. To celebrate the event, we have teamed up with Seasonic to create the ‘OCWC 2017 Final – Predict the Winner’ contest. All you have to do is correctly guess which overclocker will win the contest and you will entered into a prize draw where you can win some great prizes thanks to sponsors HWBOT and Seasonic. Prizes include a latest generation Intel Core i7 8700K processor and a high-end Seasonic PRIME Platinum power supply. The contest is set up so that the more social actions you take, the better chance you have to win a prize. What is a social action? Actions include visiting he HWBOT Facebook page, the Seasonic Facebook page, plus following our Twitter feeds. There are 11 different types of action, each of which gives you an additional chance to win. However, the most important action you can make is predicting the winner of the contest. You need to guess correctly or all bets are off. There are nine overclockers competing in the contest so choose carefully! To enter the contest visit this page on the HWBOT World Tour site, or alternatively just go direct to the contest widget here and get started.
  3. French No.1 Overclocker Wizerty has again been coming up with some really good content for Tom’s Hardware France. His latest article is in fact one of a series of articles that he has been producing recently that are entitled ‘My Life as an Overclocker’. The series is focused on what it means to be an Overclocker who tries to competitive. He talks about his passion for the game and shares his thoughts on feelings on particular contests that he has taken part in (and in some cases won), also sharing advice about specific hardware platforms and more. In his most recent article however, Jean-Michel gets the thoughts and feelings of other French overclockers, including Rookie overclocker Skylead, a rising star that has won the last two Rookie Rumble contests on OC-ESPORTS. Here’s a sample (translated using Google Translate so I ask for forgiveness in advance): I'm Skylead, to serve you. I am 23 years old and I am a train driver in everyday life. I discovered OC five years ago, without wanting to throw myself in, thinking it was an activity reserved for the elite. I had learned about the subject during the editing of one of my PCs, just for the sake of pushing it to its limits. At the end of August / beginning of September, I took the urge to mount a machine, and thread in needles, I discovered the FFOC (French Federation of OverClocking), then I set myself the challenge of getting a good place at the Rookie Rumble. I decided to put myself in love with beautiful big numbers, and the desire to master this discipline (it had to start one day!). Rookie Rumble #48 - This is a competition reserved for beginners in overclocking (having less than three months of seniority on the HWBOT site to his credit), with almost no limitation in the equipment, but we are only entitled to temperature chilling ambient (ventirad, AIO, watercooling custom). These are the methods of cooling that attracted me in the first place, what was possible to do once released from the limit imposed by the Joule effect impressed me immediately, and then as and when , only the performance interested me. After several hours of discussion with different people, I start, we mount the processor a little higher frequency than for its use of every day, and we launch the first test: XTU. The results are not bad, but are far from what I had imagined, and even further from the first place. I was sure to have a good CPU, something is wrong, so I start a quest for information, and it is thanks to my recent meetings and extensive documentation on the Internet that I understand the concern, and it was the RAM. So I equipped myself for the event: new motherboard, new RAM kit and now it's better! You can catch the full article from Jean-Michel which also includes an interview with Patate, winner of Road to Pro Challenger Division IV Round 3 plus interviews with warper a Cowcotland Tam member taking part in Division II. It’s in French, but thanks to Google Translate it is still very much accessible. Nice work Wizerty!
  4. Back in November 2009 the world of overclocking made something of a splash with the mainstream tech media as AMD held a series of events to showcase their latest AMD Phenom II line of processors. The idea is simple. You invite the world’s media to wine and dine while world class overclockers go nuts with Liquid Helium to push the silicon to wholly new echelons of performance. This is basically what AMD did back in 2009. If you recall, the AMD Phenom II processor, when joined with the latest AMD 790GX chipset boards and the company’s Radeon 4870 GPUs, were part of what AMD described as the Dragon platform. The purpose behind the event series was to try and push a new and shiny AMD Phenom II 955 ES processor past the 7GHz barrier while scoring above 50,000 marks in 3DMark06. The rig used at an event in Texas included a Phenom II 955 ES mounted on an ASUS CROSSHAIR III and M4A79T-deluxe motherboard, a CORSAIR DOMNATOR GT 1800CL-7 memory kit and Quad AMD 4870X2 cards. A pretty fearsome rig back in 2009 for sure. The video that AMD produced chronicles events where overclockers managed to gradually break way past the 7GHz barrier to around 7.08GHz. Overclockers involved with the events include several HWBOT members, including; Nemesis (Germany), Sampsa (Finland), Massman (Belgium), Schradin (US), Gomeler (US), Elmor (Sweden), HARDMAN (Russia), giorgioprimo (Italy), SF3D (Finland), chew* (US), K|ngp|n (US), and macci (Finland). A few memorable names in there for sure. You can check out the promo video that AMD produced right here. In it you will several faces that may in fact still haunt your nightmares today. You can also find our original post from November 6th 2009 here.
  5. Italian No.1 and OC-ESPORTS No.1 ranked Overclocker rsannino has been busy getting better acquainted with the latest mainstream platform from Intel, the 8th generation of processors codenamed Coffee Lake. Roberto (as he is known to many of us) has got hold of a very decent Intel Core i7 8700K chip, a six core processor that he has used to break five Global First Place scores including wPrime 32M and 1024M, Cinebench R11.5, Geekbench 3 and GPUPI for CPU 1B. Let’s take a look at what he got up to. The new fastest ever run in wPrime 32M using a six core CPU now stands at 1sec 969ms. , just ahead of the previous best which came from Hicookie (Taiwan). Roberto made the score with Core i7 8700K pushed to a pretty impressive 6,935MHz, which is actually +87.43% beyond stock settings. The rig he used included a GALAX HOF DDR4 kit configured at 2,076MHz (12-11-11-28) and an ROG Maximus X Apex motherboard. He also took down the wPrime 1024M test with a Global First Place run of 1min 0sec 960ms. using the same rig with the CPU pushed slightly more gently at 6,900MHz (+86.49%). In the Cinebench R11.5 six-core rankings we find Roberto at the top with a score of 25.34 points. , which beats the previous bets held by Dancop (Germany). In this case the Core i7 8700K was pushed to 6,928MHz (+87.24%). In the Geekbench 3 benchmark however with the CPU pushed to 6.9GHz made a new Global First Place score of 43,020 points. . Meanwhile in the GPUPI for CPU 1B benchmark he managed his highest CPU clock of the session, pushing it to a monstrous 7,029MHz (+89.97%) to complete a run in 2min 28sec 758ms. . The HWBOT Overclocking World Championship will take place early next month and will be based around the Core i7 8700K. It would certainly seem that Roberto (a winner in the Taipei 2017 Qualifier) is in good shape with this platform right now. You can find all the score submissions in the links above, or alternatively you can visit the rsannino profile page here. .
  6. Looks like today really is a day for Overclocking to once again enjoy the warmth of truly mainstream limelight. After the recent XOC exploits of JayzTwoCents and OC legend K|ngp|n, it’s interesting to see yet more overclocking content come from an even more mainstream source –yes, we talking about LinusTechTips. First… some back story. A few months back Linus and the gang produced a bunch of videos that covered the latest Intel X299 platform and the new Core i9 high-core count processors that arrived with it. It’s fair to say that Linus was not completely in love with the new platform. Not even slightly. So what does a smart marketing department do to douse the flames of negativity? They pay the negative media source to do a Core i9 Overclocking Guide. Simple, no? I would never suggest that HWBOT members should go get advice from a YouTuber like Linus. God forbid. That’s the not the point really. It is interesting to see how a massive company like Intel is willing to underwrite an OC Guide with one of Internet’s biggest tech content creators. When tech media suggest that Overclocking is old hat and not really so relevant anymore, let’s hold aloft this video from Linus which in last 48 hours or less has actually accrued more than half a million views. Of the 564k+ that have watched the video so far, I’m guessing only a handful are HWBOT members with a background in Overclocking. Which means that a few hundred thousand regular people just watched a video about how to Overclock your CPU. Not a bad outcome from where I’m standing. The Core i9 Overclocking Guide might lack some of the in-depth nuance and detail that we would expect from a seasoned OC Pro, but hey… it’s pitched at an audience that may not be too familiar with the sport as a whole. You can watch the OC Guide video for yourself here on the Linus Tech Tips channel and of course, please chime in with your thoughts here on our new HWBOT Community Forum.
  7. The arrival of AMD Threadripper platform back in August caused a few ripples of excitement for many enthusiasts. However AMD’s latest high-core count chips require plenty of decent cooling if you want to budge them anywhere past stock settings. For many a simple All-in-One cooler is the obvious choice, especially now that there are so many easy-to-install closed-loop variants available these days. When it comes to Threadripper you might not always be getting the most effective AiO closed-loop cooler experience, simply because of the size the chip itself. The TR4 platform is monster big compared to AM4. The surface area of the Threadripper die is way more than most coolers are designed to cope with, which is why some companies are offering coolers that are purpose built for Threadripper and use broader cold plates. One such company that is pushing out TR4 specific design is Enermax. The Enermax Liqtech 240 and 360 is designed with a wide cold plate that should, in theory offer better thermals than the standard rounded ones that most of us have been using. JayzTwoCents, yes that guy again, has been playing around to find out if using TR4-specific cooler really helps with overclocking in his latest video. Yes… once again a mainstream YouTuber getting down to some overclocking for the masses (…161K views so far pretty much means masses). His video introduces the Enermax Liqtech TR4 cooler, the installation process involved and also look at how well the cooler does under load with Cinebench R15. He also gets down to some basic overclocking to see how the temps reach once higher voltages and frequencies are applied. Gamers Nexus have also done some great contest focused on how well Threadripper compatible coolers. This video from Steve Burke examines a bunch of coolers that are Threadripper-optimized including the Enermax Liqtech and also a Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3, an air cooler build (as the name would suggest) for the new Threadripper parts. As ever Steve gives some great in-depth insights. Check out the videos from JayzTwoCents and Gamers Nexus, and don’t forget that you can discuss in things here on the new HWBOT Community Forum.
  8. Today we happy to be able to officially announce more important details regarding the forthcoming Overclocking World Championship Final 2017. As you may well be aware, the contest will take place at Caseking HQ in Berlin, Germany on December 9th and 10th and is the climax of a year-long campaign to discover this year’s Overclocking World Champion. Today we are confirming the hardware that will be used in the contest, plus the overall structure and rules in place. OCWC Final 2017: December 9th and 10th, 2017 - The Overclocking World Championship (OCWC) Final 2017 will be broken down into two separate sections; a Qualification Phase, followed by a series of 1v1 Matches. Here is a general overview of the contest schedule. -December 9th – Day 1: Qualification Phase + Round 1 & 2 1v1 Matches -December 10th – Day 2: Rounds 3 – 8 1v1 Matches + Award Ceremony OCWC Final 2017: Hardware: - The following hardware restrictions will be enforced for the duration of the contest. Processor: Intel Core i7 8700K (provided by HWBOT) Memory: Any DDR4 kit (not provided – no restrictions) Motherboard: Any Z370 Motherboard (not provided – no restrictions) Graphics Card: NVIDIA GT 710 (provided by HWBOT) Storage:SATA 128GB SSD (1 partition w/Win10 Pro latest build) Power Supply: Seasonic 850W (provided by HWBOT) Peripherals:USB Keyboard and Mouse (provided by HWBOT – PS2 allowed) Monitor: Standard 1080p (provided by HWBOT) Cooling Solutions: Not provided LN2:Provided by HWBOT (Cascades not allowed) You can find the full list of rules and more details about the contest structure here on the HWBOT World Tour website.
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  10. The latest edition of the OC Show is now available. Originally broadcast live on the OverClocking-TV TwitchTV channel we find in Episode 17 that Trouffman is joined this week by Buildzoid, the chap behind the Actually Hardcore Overclocking YouTube channel. The show starts off with a quick look at what is happening in the HWBOT Country Cup which kicked off around two weeks ago on OC-ESPORTS. At the top of the table we find the USA team making great strides as front runners, which is interesting because they have yet to win a Country Cup, despite being the most represented country on HWBOT in terms of members. Buildzoid however has been busy making his contribution to the Czech cause, making a handy submission in Stage 5 which is all about 3DMark11 P. Meanwhile Trouff is working for the Antarctica team (thanks to a poll result) where he is making the one and only submission so far. Other topics of discussion include the recent visit by K|ngp|n (US) to the JayzTwoCents studio. The guys are impressed with the production value of the video and the humorous intro – “Did someone say, Overclocking?!!”. It’s a cool video that discusses the art of using LN2 to push GPUs and CPUs to the max. Not a common topic on YouTube usually. Nice to see it hit a more mainstream audience. In the graphics card market NVIDIA also announced a new version of their flagship Titan Xp card which (oddly for many of us) uses Star Wars branding. Is this simply a Titan Xp with more LEDs? Is Christmas just weeks away? Or is it just a bit of a joke for most enthusiasts? We then come to the news that Intel plans to have another crack at the discrete graphics market and the move of Raja Koduri from AMD’s GPU team to Intel. Are NVIDIA quaking in their boots? Perhaps not anytime soon. Catch Episode 17 of the OC Show here on the OverClocking-TV YouTube channel.
  11. T he latest podcast from Hardware Asylum is now available. Episode 81 sees Dennis and Darren tackle the subject of PCIe Gen 4.0, a new spec that could well be upon us in the next year or so. They also revisit the 7 Days to Die game that they have been playing recently. Here are the show notes: PCI Express 4.0 Standard Released - Back in 2003 the first PCI Express standard was released which really changed everything in a modern computer system. Many users take this technology for granted however, without it we wouldn’t have super fast NVMe drives, configurable SLI, AMD Crossfire or even the BItcoin mining systems you see showcased on YouTube. All of those things were made possible, (or improved in the case of SLI) by using PCI Express. A computer standard it defines how it should work and gives manufactures something to use when designing new products. PCI Express 4.0 supports 64GB/s of transfer bandwidth which is double that of PCI Express 3.0 and is a logical step forward. We suspect it will be about a year before we will start seeing products supporting PCI Express 4.0 and maybe two years before it becomes a mainstream thing. In that time maybe someone can finally make a “good” external graphics option so we can finally kill off the desktop PC. Not that I am in support of that but, that is sadly the way of the future. Catch episode 81 of the Hardware Asylum podcast here.
  12. We are treated this week to a look at the NVIDIA 200 series of graphics cards. As well as rejigged product nomenclature, the 200 series represents a new and improved architectural approach to the GPU design from NVIDIA who managed to come up with their largest graphics chip ever. The 200 series was the latest weapon in the fight against ATI and one that proved to be fairly potent in terms of raw frame-rates. Let’s take a look at the new architecture, the graphics cards that were popular at the time with overclockers on HWBOT and of course, some of the more notable scores that have been made its introduction. NVIDIA GeForce 200: Overview We mentioned in the previous GeForce 9 series article how this period of history shows plenty of overlap in terms of GPU series. In April 2008 NVIDIA launched the 9 series and the G92 GPU (read all about the 9 series here ) which was based on an improved but largely identical Tesla design. The 9 series served a purpose by bringing to market cheaper high-end enthusiast cards that could compete with ATI. It also eventually gave NVIDIA a chance to test out the 55nm manufacturing process from TSMC using a more familiar architecture. The GeForce 200 series initially launched on 65nm silicon with later revisions taking advantage the 55nm process. The NVIDIA GeForce 200 series arrived on shelves in June of 2008, just two months after the GeForce 9800 GTX was launched. Again we find the new series launch with two new flagship cards; the GTX 280 and the GTX 260. The GPU at the heart of these two new cards was the GT200, arguably the biggest graphics chip that had ever been produced. Let’s take a moment to recall the GT200 GPU and what it brought to table. The headline feature for many tech reviewers was the actual size of the GT200, both physically and in terms of transistor count. The original 65nm G80 packed a very impressive 754 million transistors into its 324 mm² die and was seen as pretty much the bleeding edge of IC design in many quarters. When the GT200 arrived packing 1.4 billion transistors into a larger 576 mm² die it was heralded as beast, and rightly so. By comparison, in 2008 Intel were producing dual-core server CPUs that had fewer transistors, so the GT200 really was exceptional. The pricing of the first GTX 200 cards may well also have reflected the lower yield rate per wafer considering the sheer size of these things. Read the full NVIDIA GeForce 200 GPU Flashback Archive article here.
  13. The highly contested and incredibly well participated ROG Showdown Team Edition 2 contest just came to a close here on OC-ESPORTS. The grand finale gathered pace in the last three days of the contest with HW GURUS coming from out of absolutely nowhere, crushing all opposition with a thoroughly dominant win. In runner up spot we find Alza OC while the French Legion made a late push to earn third place on the podium. Let’s take a look at the final standing, the stages, the notable scores that were made and the great prizes that ASUS have lined up for our illustrious winners. ROG OC Showdown Team Edition: September 22nd - November 6th 2017 Before we get knee deep in competitive OC action, let’s first remind ourselves about what the contest is all about. The ROG OC Showdown Team Edition 2 contest is broken down into five individual stages. Each stage involves a specific benchmark, a specific number of scores that are required, plus restrictions on cooling and the different hardware needed. Perhaps what makes the contest really interesting and unique is that there are also restrictions about which overclockers, from which HWBOT league may compete. Each stage includes limitations to allow Rookie, Novice, Apprentice, Enthusiast, Extreme or Elite league members to compete. The idea is to include challenges for all members of the team, from Rookie to Elite. Stage 1: XTU 5GHz - Rookie and Novices Stage 1 of the contest pits Rookie and Novices against each other in a straight up XTU fight. There is however one twist - CPUs are limited to 5GHz to prevent the stage becoming a straight up frequency and binning scrap. No subzero cooling is allowed as CPUs have to be shown to be above 60 degrees celsius. Like all stages in the contest, an ASUS motherboard is a requirement. Three submissions using any quad-core CPU and below are required. Our champions HW Gurus take the win here with Rookies Golub (Serbia), Nemanja (Serbia) and Nadel1 (Serbia) demonstrating the strength of Serbian overclocking with an average score of 1794.67 marks XTU. This is just ahead of French Legion with an average XTU score of 1,784.67 marks and Alza OC with 1,770.67 marks. ROG Czech OC Guys arrive in 4th with /r/overclocking in 5th. Read the full ASUS ROG OC Showdown Team Edition 2 contest roundup article here on OC-ESPORTS where you can also learn about the contest winners and prizes in full.
  14. For the last week or so there have been reports of a few AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs spotted in the wild that actually have more cores and threads than they should have. Both AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 5 1600X processors are sold as 6 core / 12 thread parts, but for an unknown reason certain batches are actually shipping with 8 cores / 16 threads. This is what MSI have to say on the matter on their AMD blog space a few days ago: A specific batch of Ryzen 5 1600 has been widely discussed lately that user will have a chance to get a free upgrade to 8-core CPU free of charge. The default CPU performance of this unique Ryzen 5 1600 CPU would be on par with AMD Ryzen 7 1700 according to the discussion over the internet. To confirm whether this news is fake or not, I managed to get this CPU from my local dealer today. Setting up my MSI B350 Tomahawk motherboard using this CPU and voila, the CPU-Z tells me the Ryzen 5 1600 has 8 Core 16 Threads. In terms of the HWBOT rankings, this development obviously throws a proverbial spanner in the works. If you are using an 8-core chip to compete in 6-core Global First Place rankings, you clearly have an unfair advantage. To remedy the situation, Strunkenbold (our tireless maintainer of the HWBOT Hardware Database) has created two new CPU categories to accommodate these two new product SKUs; AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (8 Cores) and AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (8 Cores) . It’s also relevant to note that we are not officially considering these as ‘unlocked’ processors as the user doesn’t have to actually do anything to gain the extra two cores. Unlike previous AMD processors where extra cores and performance could be unlocked, these two new models are basically just mistakenly labeled.
  15. In Week 45 of 2017, we received 4359 benchmark results from 1037 registered overclockers around the world. The majority of the submissions is coming from Rookie overclockers representing 59% of the active community. They were responsible for 37% of the submissions. We had a peek at the most valuable submissions in a breakdown per league. During Week 45 of 2017, four overclockers made the leaderboard with a golden cup. First up is Dancop with two entries in this week's table. First up is a Global First Place in the XTU 6xCPU category with a score of 3788 marks. This was achieved with the current second-most popular CPU at HWBOT, the Core i7-8700K, at 6733 MHz. In addition, Dancop also broke the World Record in 3DMark06, setting the bar at 74336 marks. For this the same Core i7-8700K was used, but clocked at an incredible 7118 MHz. Next up is Splave with a Hardware First Place in the 3DMark Vantage Performance GeForce GTX 680 category. The top score is now 64358 marks and was achieved with the graphics card clocked at 1650/1900 MHz. Third overclocker to nail a golden cup is Traktor from Russia with a Hardware First Place in the 3DMark11 Performance 2x Radeon HD 7970 category. The new top score in the category is 28722 points and was achieved with the pair of graphics cards clocked at 1244/1691 MHz. Last but not least is Dr4gon1 from the United States. He scored a Hardware First Place in the Aquamark3 GeForce 8600 GTS graphics card. Congrats everyone! The most used hardware components of Week 45 are the Core i7 7700K (10.0%), GeForce GTX 1080 (12.2%) and the ASUS ROG Rampage VI Apex (2.7%). In total the community used 330 different CPUs, 230 different GPUs and 749 different motherboards. The overclocking results submitted during Week 45 generated in total 230 World Record Points, 9122.3 Global Points, and 6888.5 Hardware Points. The distribution per League is as follows: 15% for Elite, 23% for Extreme, 11% for Apprentice, 23% for Enthusiast, 9% for Novice, and 31% for Rookie. The representation of the active community is as follows: 2% Elite, 7% Extreme, 4% Apprentice, 17% Enthusiast, 11% Novice, and 59% Rookie.
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