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    Frequency detection bug with old Socket 5 CPUs

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    55 minutes ago, Strunkenbold said:

    You guys say all the time how experienced you are with old hardware. Yet when boot screen says 280 MHz and CPU-Z says 300 MHz you keep calm because its an advantage for you. As you are all so "experienced" you dont think its strange when you set an FSB of 124  but CPU-Z says 100. You dont think its something wrong when old Pentium MMX CPUs have high multipliers? You open AIDA and CPU speed differs, you dont wonder why?
    I really wonder how I could spot this problem with my "non-existing competence". What a shame for you.

    Personally, I did not encounter this problem or did not pay attention. I do not have many results with processors below K6-2. Disturbing is not precisely this situation, but the situation as a whole, all this negative atmosphere. Personally, you have no complaints, you do your job and it's always pleasant to compete with you.

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    Frequency detection bug with old Socket 5 CPUs

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    12 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

    I think we have only ourselves to blame for this. If people didn't cheat then we could trust every result. This end up meaning we have to enforce the letter of the law instead of only intent.

    I agree, but cheating and making screenshots are a bit different things. for example there are 3 results, in the first two cases the screenshots are made completely by the rules, and in the third there are minor violations and the moderator understands this. Enrages that a person does not try to understand what caused these violations. Approach to the issue is your problem, it's wrong. Each situation is individual and you can always ask for additional confirmation and not immediately ban.

    12 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    For another of you arguments:  If you think we have the time to ask to 20-30 people daily to redo their screenshot or to ask for other verification , how on earth can we keep track ?  The rules have been laid down by our predecessors, again in a reaction to the aforementioned reasons.

    Also if we don't maintain a strict handling of subs and allow the score for person A , but  not for person B... how big of a mess will that be after a few months...

    I get the impression that we are talking about different things. If the overclocker was caught in cheating - I would ban him forever. But if there are no questions to the result, but there are shortcomings in the screenshot, why not specify them at once? Why ban after a week / month / year? People see, wait until the time runs out and then complain - is this fair play you think?

     

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    Frequency detection bug with old Socket 5 CPUs

    in HWBOT News

    Posted · Edited by Gumanoid

    And I felt sore. What's happening on hwbot lately? who are we? Overclockers? benchers? or "screenshoters"? the results are deleted and blocked without a real reason! All perfectly understand that the result is correctly received, but the window is not in the wrong place = ban. What if I can not physically place all windows at 1280*1024 resolution? There are frames of the reasonable and human factor. Therefore, moderators are people, not bots. What prevents ask before blocking? But most of all enrages that everything is formal approach.The man presses the "block" button realizing that the result is good in itself, but there is a "snitch" who instead of overclocking looks at the results stupidly and finds some minor flaws. What's wrong with you guys? Ten years ago, there was no such crap. all overclockers bench for fun! By your actions you discourage motivation for new achievements. Is this the purpose of the hwbot today?

    p.s. Turrican did not want the hwbot to be the way it was now. It's a shame...

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    THE OFFICIAL OLD SCHOOL IS BEST SCHOOL SEASON 4 BONUS ROUND THREAD

    in HWBOT Competitions

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    [quote]
    On 7/15/2018 at 6:34 PM, Gumanoid said:

    The round began, but there is no Wallpaper. Give us a link please.

    You jump started the thread , making it the official bonus round thread ... and you dont have any answers ?

    Just questions and remarks ?

     

    Since you decited to open up this thread , why not prepare a basic description in your opening post ?

    What's this bonus round for ?

    Which is the hardware allowed ?

    What are the stages ?

    Wallpaper ... and so on.

     

    Have a look at the other official round threads of this season.

     

     

    [/quote] Why the moderators do not track the beginning of each round and in a timely manner do not create a discussion with a description, a wallpaper, etc. I needed a wallpaper since there was a little LN2 and it was necessary to get basic results.
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    The official Old School is Best School Season 4 Round 3 thread

    in HWBOT Competitions

    Posted · Edited by Gumanoid

    2 hours ago, TASOS said:

    You think , that the silicon is the same , because AMD kept the same manufacturing process at 0.18 micron

    No, not at all.

     

    2 hours ago, TASOS said:

    Since you two both agree (three in fact , cause GRIFF "liked" your posts) , and of course you have valid proof to do so.

    GRIFF can "like" any posts and my opinion does not depend on it. it was enough for me to confirm the video to understand that he was not cheating.

    2 hours ago, TASOS said:

    I assume you know , that in fact we had 3 core revisions , being A1 , A2 and A3 (that was never picked up correctly from software , cause of same cpuid of 622).

    Do you really believe that the silicon remains the same ?

    Yes, why not? AMD sorted best processor cores at factory. I read old articles in those days and reviewers wrote about it. "Orion" core name is a marketing move to make products more attractive. There are many steppings of "Coppermine" core from сA2 to cD0. and of course there is a difference in overclocking possibilities, but it steel Coppermine core! But I've seen PIII 550MHz second cB0 stepping that can do 1GHz and higher on air! So why do you think a Pluto 800 can not do 1200MHz?

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    The official Old School is Best School Season 4 Round 3 thread

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    9 hours ago, TASOS said:

    @GRIFF

    Can you please verify the exact settings used , with your cpu , in this round ?

    Write down please , voltage , cache divider , multi.

     

    Also for verification purposes (to complete as soon as possible) you can post the cpu pcb photographs now , and post later the photo of your plastic cover , when you find it. 

    Thanks

    I don't understand, You think GRIFF is cheating? I don't think so.

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