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  1. On 2/19/2023 at 2:49 AM, spit051261 said:

    Surely there is a way where we can see straight away weather ECC has been enabled .

    This is crazy .

    I say get rid off ALL 4090 scores .

    I had stacks of points so I know what I am losing.

    I just want it like it was before this 4090 episode started.

    Plug and play points for no skill but a deep wallet .

    Firestrike with LOD/TESS .....whats is the difference with ECC on or off ?

    Although "some" people have called it a bug , It is the same "bug" that is available to EVERYONE here , what is the big deal ?

     

    On 2/18/2023 at 11:39 AM, kvarq said:

    the SuperPosition verification link does not state the ECC status, nor the benchmark window...

    As of right now, there is no way to fake those numbers because just as they show here they also show in your link. 24.5GB is ECC off. And 23.5GB is ECC on.

    CLOUDGATE-111222-13900KS-4090SUPRIMX-1.png

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  2. 3 minutes ago, SilentMechanic01 said:

    Yes sir I went through nvidia inspector and the three were not listed in the current driver I have installed ?

    Not sure how much it will add, but this also goes for your 4090, but you need to have ECC enabled for hwbot, but not for UL 3dmark website hall of fame. As of yet I believe.

    And also remember...Certain driver changes or reset you will need to re enable that tweak.

    If you can manage 27k and up then you are doing well with ECC enabled. 29k and up requires cards running 3200 to 3300+ on core

  3. 2 minutes ago, SilentMechanic01 said:

    Go back to school. You clearly didn’t read the first post fully. Does anyone have any useful information?

    Clearly you are the one that cant read. So maybe take your own advice internet tough guy.

     

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    Mods, can we get a thread closure?

  4. 9 minutes ago, SilentMechanic01 said:

    How do you know how warm they are?

    If you click on your 3dmark link it will show you the temps as well as the clock speeds.

    It will also show you inside the program as well by clicking the 3 little dots next to System Information. Or by looking at the monitor graph, but these options only work if you bought the software.

  5. 5 hours ago, SilentMechanic01 said:

    Hey everyone been a long time creeper to the site but just decided to join… I’m having some weird results in PR that I can’t explain and I was wondering WTH is going on ?. First I can’t touch the scores for 3090 2x running identical or better frequency and we are talking 2k points off with two KP cards. I’ve verified all my settings 3 times and even revisited my cpu stuff which shouldn’t matter as everyone knows. Second I’m having the same issue with a 4090 on a completely different platform (ecc on or off) I had no issues with 20 series cards. ( as high as 24th with a chiller )  what’s going on with the UL leader boards?

    You probably do not have resizable bar enabled or fully enabled. Speculations of course....

    And I also do not think ECC enabled is a requirement for 30 series cards. So turn that off. Unless this rule has been changed.

    Also your cards are really warm....

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  6. 1 hour ago, Rauf said:

    One question regarding the ecc rule, many benchmarks seem to not require ecc. 3d11 and vantage give globals but don't need ecc, how come? Also many older benchmarks without globals don't need ecc, like heaven, 3d03, 3d05 etc. Shouldn't all 3d benchmarks have the same rules, i would assume bugged runs can happen in those benchmarks also?

    Only exception would be gpu-pi as it does not involve memory at all and it actually checks that calculations are correct.

    Really good question there....

  7. 2 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    Without ECC we would have bugged outputs all over the place with these RTX cards, especially if the benchmark still VALIDATES on the verification page. There should be an autodetect system monitoring weird outputs that would invalidate the score if eg Scene 3 scores more than 30% faster than scene 7... sadly this is not the case (yet)

    Now with Pasi from UL monitoring the subs with ECC there are almost no bugged outputs. With UL displaying the ECC enabled and correct memory size we have a double backup layer from the standard HWBOT screenshot requirements. Adding ECC tab is overkill, it has no real added value

    One member was already creative, making a new screenshot with ECC enabled but with the non ECC save profile loaded in the benchmark. The verification link gave it all away.

    Can we judge by the displayed frequencies, nope but again we see them in the verification link. Users can downclock or even upclock to make it look more realistic. It's that creativity that leads to so many rules and rule changes... 

    Just wait for the 15th, when we pull all non ECC subs, the dust will settle after a few days... hopefully everybody is satisfied with the new direction...

    Fingers crossed UL wil pickup the feedback for future benchmark releases, the current verification design has flaws. We saw it already with 6900XT scores and now once more with RTX 4090. Sadly no site is perfect as way too many "tweaked" scores stay under the radar... 

    Now this was more along the lines of what I was expecting from you. Thanks for the info.

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  8. 7 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    Why does one continuously keep on repeating the same thing.

    All older non ECC scores will be removed on the 15th of this month... So everything will be the same. I can add an ECC easily in the screenshot, no special Photoshop skills required... Doesn't work 

    If Nvidia removes ECC we have a big problem, than it's fully up to UL to impose proper bugged score detection...as users will keep on claiming their score is fully legit and will cry it is labeled Valid by UL.

    Impossible to moderate with the current graph data we have... 

    Why the smart ass reply? So it's like that around here is it?

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  9. On 12/19/2022 at 9:23 AM, Leeghoofd said:

    We will not remove any benchmarks from HWBOT for the RTX 40 series... submission wise we are still hoping for another UL fix and the GPUZ implementation....

    This actually doesn't make any sense. So you are keeping the BS runs while new submitted runs are under scrutiny of the new ruling? Which makes them lower and slower runs unable to beat the bugged runs. That sounds very productive.

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  10. 8 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

    We are still waiiting for the 4080 not able to enable ECC issue to take a final decision/ However in my eyes and stated already several times bnefore, it is  up to the benchmark developers that need to take action and rectify the flaws in their system monitoring and Validation check. 

    Hopefully the new GPUZ version will show ECC enabled or not... that would already be something in the right direction for older benchmarks

     

     

    Are you guys going to finish removing invalid 4090 benchmarks or not? I am starting the process of redoing them and trying to get the ones of mine in question deleted, but if that is not the case then I do not want to potentially have good scores deleted.

     

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