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  1. As we discussed in several PMs I'll take no.1. Payment sent, thanks in advance. :)

     

     

    Just as a side note for all viewers/buyers: Nearly six years ago I bought a kit of F4-3400C16Q-64GTZ from Michael. These sticks are still awesome and served me well in a daily driver through X99, AM4, TR4, sTRX4 and back to AM4. Still going strong on AM4 nearly 6 years later. Best buy ever!

    So go out and grab everything you can get from Michael! Very good seller, very good stuff, awesome prices. ?

     

    Wish him all the best!!!

     

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  2. 16 hours ago, ObscureParadox said:

    That's the standard edition though, I don't believe the black edition actually ever got released.

     

    16 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

    Obscure Paradox is correct, I have a sample of HDT75TFBK6DGR, it's HDT75ZFBK6DGR that seems to be vaporware

    Damnit. You're right - I simply missed the "BE" and only looked for 1075T... :(

    Sorry guys...

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  3. 20 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

    Phenom II x4 1075T BE (may exist, if you can find any proof beyond https://www.techpowerup.com/128460/amd-silently-deems-phenom-ii-x6-1075t-a-black-edition-part-starts-listing-in-europe that it exists that would even be welcome)

    1075T definitely exists. I reviewed one by myself in 2010:

    AMD Phenom II X6 1075T @ Planet 3DNow! (September 2010)

    I don't have this cpu anymore so I only can help with proof of existence... :)

  4. On 12/29/2019 at 6:14 PM, unityofsaints said:

    Great occasion to bench this special CPU :) I thought it was lost forever

    Fortunately this CPU is still in the hands of someone who can make proper use of it. :)

    As far as I know Boris had a long wait to use it in a Country-/Team-Cup someday. So the least I/we could do was to give it a shot in this years cup. Even it was cascade only due to the lack of ln2.

     

     

    On 12/30/2019 at 1:48 PM, SoF said:

    i7 975 Extreme...so many good memories.

    Oh yeah. Was a great pleasure to touch this hardware again after so many years. Felt like coming home... :)

     

    Wish all of you a good start in 2020!

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  5. 1) 9900k   sold

    CPU is boxed with blue cube, delidded with liquid metal and resealed. IMC is very good, low volts even with 2x16GB memory. I prefer to sell board and CPU together.

    Overclocking result: Cinebench R20 5.3 1.225V (VCore Load) with 25°C water.

    Price: 600 Euro shipped EU

    2) Maximus XI Apex   sold

    Board is in top condition and complete with box and acessories. I prefer to sell board and CPU together.

    Price: 300 Euro shipped EU

    3) Galax 2080 Ti Hof OC Lab Edition sold

    Card comes mounted with original Bitspower water block. Card was used for daily gaming, no benching.

    Price: 1200 Euro shipped EU 

    Item location: Germany

    Payment via IBAN or PayPal. Please cover fees if you want Goods&Services.

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  6. On 12/10/2018 at 2:47 PM, cbjaust said:

     

    Well that's not how it's actually working at present. I guess it will be fixed before the end. ?

    It's still broken (it seems...).

    I just uploaded my AM3-Score (AM3-CPU with AM3-motherboard) and a result with AM3+-motherboard and AM3-CPU dropped out.

     

    Did I read it correct that as long as we use an AM3-Board (Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5) and an AM3+-Board (ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z) both scores should count for stage 3 even if they both are achieved with an AM3-CPU?!

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    1) Phenom II 42 TWKR.

    A rare collectable CPU that comes with the original box.

    Asking 200 Euros + shipping

     

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    4) Gigabyte EP45T-Extreme.

    The extra NB heatsink assembly has one broken screw, otherwise top condition. Comes without IO shield.

    Asking 100 Euros + shipping

     

    I'm interested in no. 1 and no. 4. Any chance for a nice bundle-price? Can you say how much shipping to Germany will cost?

     

    And becaus it's not mentioned specifically: TWKR is in working condition?

  8. Nice to see you back in action. :)

     

    Maybe you can remember your ultramarin blue cascade built back in 2007. This baby still works like a charm and didn't have a single issue. All I had to "fix" was a small piece of armaflex fallen off.

     

    This piece of art brought us a few global world records. And it is much stronger than it was built for...

     

    Performance: evaporator on 400W = -96*C, on 530-540W (max of bartx's dummyload) = -92*C.

     

    Last year we ran a 5960X with a calculated power draw of about 500W in wPrime 1024M. Highest evap-temperature was -89C. Not bad for a nine year old unit built for -96C at 250W.

     

    Hats off for this masterpiece... :)

  9. Well I gotta read 10,000 posts there to see if there is any software solution that monitors vcore accurately.

     

    If you get a chance to measure idle with a DMM please let me know. I wonder if BIOS is still inaccurate. Otherwise, how are we to set vcore for idle and LLC in BIOS if all these numbers are not true to begin with... its all a mess. [/Quote]

     

    If you follow the link in my previous post you see this statement from elmor:

     

    For accurate readings try the latest HWInfo64 which has values directly from the VRM controller.[/Quote]

     

    Because of that statement I rely most on SVI2 TFN-reading from HWInfo64. This value slightly drops when I start to stress my cpu - like it should when using llc 3. Additionally this value is roughly the same like vcore bios setting when cpu is in idle.

     

     

     

     

    Ahh good to know, I would much rather leave it at GEN3 with 125 BCLK then. Glad to hear it is working fine.

     

    Yes, it's working fine for now. And I'm happy with it because now I have the same PCIe-bandwidth like 2x x10 3.0. Better than 2x x8 3.0 and totally worth it. :)

  10. So let's go with the dmm, 1.399v under load.. that means the set voltage under BIOS for 1.3250 is not accurate if we measure it with the the dmm. Could you please measure the vcore on idle with a dmm?? Just want to know the actual diff between the two when measured with a dmm. [/Quote]

     

    This was already discussed earlier in this thread. Dmm-reading while loaded isn't accurate. I haven't measured idle, though.

     

     

     

    Are you sure the tests are not crashing because of vcore dropping more than it should when LLC is at level 3? Just a question, not trying to give you hard time lol [/Quote]

     

    For sure crashes during P95-load occur due to low vcore. But I don't want to use llc4 or 5 for daily operation so the only conclusion would be to raise vcore. Will do that later on when the may-update is there so I (hopefully) can adjust memory timings. Then I plan to find a fully primestable setting. For now half an hour for different FFT-lengths is enough for me.

     

     

     

    For the BCLK, I read that it was advised to lower to GEN2 when OCing the BCLK from 100 to 105-144.. did I misread that??

     

    It makes perfect sense to leave the 1080ti on GEN 3 for that huge bandwidth you have, am just lost how it would still work when we OCed the BCLK to 125.[/Quote]

     

    That was no advise. It's the way PCIe on Ryzen works. ASUS found a way to force 3.0 (or 2.0 later on when Ryzen switches to 1.1) on higher PCIe-frequencies so this setting is very welcome to widen my bottleneck.

     

     

     

    For the 64GB, I was actually praising your setup, not criticizing it, dont take all my comments too personally :D It is the reason why I will go for 2x16GB for now, in case I would need to add 64gb in the future!

     

    Better have something you don't need than need something you don't have. Therefore I always have more memory installed than I really need. :) This memory kit was a good deal with websmile and I enjoy it every day. I don't really need this amount but it gives me a good feeling to know that there is no bottleneck in my system.

     

    For my 24/7-system I wouldn't feel comfortable with 32 gb - let alone 16 gb. :D

  11. Couple questions/suggestions:

    - What is the actual vcore under load (prime for example)? [/Quote]

     

    It depends on the way you read the vcore.

     

    - CPU-Z: 1.308v

    - HWInfo SVI2 TFN: lowest reading is 1.286v, most of the time while P95-load it is 1.294v

    - dmm: 1.399v

     

     

     

    - Any reason you chose Load Line Cal. at Level 3 and not 4 or 5? It might give you more stability under stress tests, maybe worth a try. [/Quote]

     

    Because I don't want full llc. I want to have a slightly lower voltage under load than in idle.

     

     

     

    - Any reason the PCIex16 and x8 are left to GEN 3, I would assume at 125 BCLK you would want them set for GEN2?[/Quote]

     

    Is there a reason why I should want them to set for GEN2?

     

    GEN2 would cut PCIe-bandwidth in half compared to GEN3. Running 2x 1080TI I already have bottlenecks in gaming even at 100 mhz GEN3. Additional 25 mhz more pcie-clock help to widen the bottleneck while gaming. Going down to GEN2 would make this bottleneck even worse.

     

    So since this is my daily gaming-rig I don't really understand your intention. Sorry.

     

     

     

    - You are running 64GB otherwise you could have got much better frequency and timing with the type of RAM you have. Still 64GB with 14 timing and 3000 is excellent!

     

    Sorry to sound a bit rude but when I want to run 64 gb in my daily rig then I simply do it. I know that I could hit higher numbers with less memory but again: I don't want to break records with this setup, it's intended to game with.

     

    I am running Battlefield 4 in 3840x2160 and 125 % resolution scale (that means 4800x2700 effectivly, 56 % more pixels than 3840x2160) with about 130 to 160 fps (only some drops below 100 fps). This setup doesn't care about SuperPI, Geekbench or similar tests. It's all about best possible daily gaming-performance with Ryzen. And I think I succeeded. ;)

     

     

    I am very pleased with this setup and the fact that I can run 64 gb at 3000 with c14. I never expected such memory clock with my TridentZ-kit.

  12. This is the setup I was aiming for.

     

    Can you post your exact BIOS settings in terms of the memory, PCIe, and so on please?

     

    Awesome, gonna try this out also!

     

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

     

    Here are my current settings with bios 1001:

     

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    There is one drawback though. If you shut down the psu or pull the plug, the system does start three times till the final post occurs. On - off - on - off - on.

     

    Additionally I have to say that these settings aren't very stable. I can run Prime95 29.10 FM3 for about 30 Minutes (18k, 1344k and 800k tested) but longer runs result in a shutdown. But it's enough to fullfill my needs for a gaming rig (I did not have a single crash since running these settings).

  13. Quick question, sorry if it has been adressed, I've tried google but havent found the answer. I am currently running my 1700 at 4018 mhz stable with tridentz 3200 ram at 114bclk 3343 mhz with 12 12 12 12 26 timings is a bclk of 114 ok for a daily driver or do i need to go back to 100 bclk for daily use?

     

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

     

    I am running 125 with my 24/7-rig without a single hiccup. m.2 and 1080 ti-sli running fine with fixed 3.0 in bios. Only the link between cpu and promontory is down to 2.0.

     

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  14. Let me guess - you're benching 2D with high-end current-gen VGA. Try another VGA that can handle increased PCI-e clocks.

     

    Running two 1080 Ti in SLI with high(er) PCIe-clock is no Problem for me, at least with watercooling. Tested 125 mhz (3.0) and 146 mhz (1.1/2.0). Voltages at "stock" (1.325 cpu, 1.0 soc, 1.8 pll, 1.05 sb, 1.285 dram).

     

    With one older 7970 dcuii I could run up to 151 mhz without issues.

     

    But all cards have in common that they run at stock speeds.

  15. The subtimings depend on the memory ratio you set. With 2933MHz you get trc 69 and with 3200MHz trc is 74. Other than that, there is no way to control them at the moment.

     

    I know that. ;)

     

    My question is whether ASUS (or other vendors) can control them with bios updates or not. They already do it with command rate so it seems that there is some sort of control. But every change would need a bios flash.

  16. See here regarding DMM measurement under load: ROG Crosshair VI overclocking thread - Page 401

     

    For accurate readings try the latest HWInfo64 which has values directly from the VRM controller.

     

    Thank you, missed that post. :)

     

     

     

    Hynix ... Dual-rank ... What do you expect when we don't even have subtiming adjustments?

     

    Just one last question: Do you have access to subtimings like the way you have for command rate (ie: you can set a fixed value in a specific bios version)? Or don't you have any access?

  17. Elmor, may I ask how accurate the measuring-points are? When Setting 1.325v in bios with llc3 cpu-z is reporting 1.33v to 1.35v loaded while measuring vcore with dmm (vcore and gnd pad) reports a continuous 1.4v.

     

    Another Ryzen question (maybe noob-question): Is reference clock = pcie-clock? Or do I misunderstand something?!

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