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Pretty good list, just 1 recommendation, for Whycruncher do 10b as the ram requirements for 1b are kinda lame (4 GB) as opposed to 10b's proper server ram requirement (40gb). Especially on 4p it shouldn't be too much to ask the competitors to run a boatload of ram.
Other than that my only question is does pin mod qx9775 count as a xeon?
No problem. Done.
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Yes we do want to get this official, but as mentioned best set for after ROG & Country Cup.
I really wanted to represent as many sever sockets as possible, but there is no way this go around. Maybe next comp we could do all the older platforms like slot-1/2, socket-8 etc but for this go at it lets see how many will play
No cooling limitations. A pain to verify anyway.
Stage 1:
SINGLE SOCKET (0ne CPU)
939 (opterons only) SP1
G34 x265 1080P
775 (xeon only) PiFast
2011 x265 4K
STAGE 2:
DUAL SOCKET (2 CPUs)
940 = 3DM03 (any single GPU)
G34 = 3DM06 (any single GPU)
1207 = 3DM11 (any single GPU)
771 = Fire Strike (any single GPU)
1366 = Vantage ( no limit on GPU count)
2011 = GPUpi (no limit on GPU count)
STAGE 3
TRIPLE SOCKET (3 CPUs)
Any socket that can run 3 CPUs = GPUpi 1B for CPU
Stage 4
Quad Socket (4 PUs)
1207 CB15
G34 y-cruncher 10b
2011 GeekBench Multi-Core
1567 Wprime1024
Stage 5
Bring what you got, no number of cpu limits any server socket(s) goes
1: GPUpi 100m
2: RealBench HWbot
3: CB11
I'm not good at knowing what 3D bench works best in conjunction with what socket, hope I got it.
If its good with you guys, (i'll wait a few days first ) I'll speak with Websmiles to see if this could be setup.
I hope we can come together to get this going.
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Besides intel xeons there are AMD opterons that need their spot in the light too
.Problem with me is, I wouldnt know what bench to match to what socket to appeal to as many as possible.
771
2011
2011-3
1366
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939
940
G34
1207
Dont put limits on cpu count. The whole point of a server comp also includes the fact that multiple cpus can be used
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Definitely liking where were going.
Dont quite understand how Pifast / superpi 32m would be a fit in such a heavily multithreaded comp.
Any specific socket limitations anywhere? Or bring/run what you got?
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I'm all for a server only comp if thats what it will be.
If there is to be a comp featuring Desktop as well as server hw then thats a different comp.
Lets try to get our feet wet first by setting up a server hw only comp, can even have stages for single socket as well as a mix of Dual-socket, Triple-socket, Quad-socket, Octo-socket and my favorite Crazy-socket (anything over 8 cpus
). Stages for older platforms leading up to more recent stuff. I know there are plenty of folks that have their dual-370, dual-462 and even older plus the Sr-2's and newer... well you get the idea theres plenty of server platforms out there that can be represented to get folks involved.This way we can see how many participants are willing to throw in on a server comp.
So to get this ball rolling,
How many stages of 3D & 2D should there be?
What benchmarks?
How long should the comp run? 30days, 60days, ??days?.
What platforms to feature this go around?
I know we can come together n create a great n fun comp for many....
I know not everyone will be happy, but that is something that will never change with any comp.
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I 'm confused.
But I always thought Computer Hardware is Computer Hardware regardless if it was labeled SERVER or DESKTOP or LAPTOP etc. And that this is THE place for ALL computer HW not just favoring & glorifying the new n shiny desktop stuff.
Thats the one thing I could never understand about HWbot on how they can segregate "server" hardware from ALL other computer hardware and think its OK. Referring to being treated equal... Comps as well as general rankings.
Saying server components are expensive... For who? Because PLENTY of folks are quick to dish out big bucks on DESKTOP cpus. Sure some socket types are pretty hefty in price but the exact same thing can be said for desktop cpu (retale not ebay or 2nd hand PC-shop)
Dont take it personal Michael, This is not aimed at you. You or I or any one else is entitled to their opinion, but someones opinion should not be what dictates such a decision for the masses.
Yes I do know that its been this way at bot for years... But that dosnt mean things cant change for the server crowd as it has for other types of HW
Just my 2bits :celebration:
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I really do like TASOS line up but as mentioned with the proposed limitations it will definitely limit the number of participants because not many will have multiple variants of a platform they will usually have the optimum components only needed for a given platform.
Personally I dont have that issue
.But it would be so much more of a fun comp with as many participants as possible.
Not seeing many folks spending $$$ for Ol' skool parts they wont use again.
I realise the popular HW has been used n proven and the idea behind the limitations. Maybe lighter/looser limitations somewhere to attract more participants?
Just an opinion...
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Thank you very much sir :ws:
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You mean RDRAM right? Because I'm pretty sure that there weren't any SDRAM Boards for that socket
For s423? Sure there are SDRAM boards.
Abit BW7, MSI 845 PRO (MS-6529), Gigabyte GA-8IDX3. Just to name 3
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If you ever want some tips for OC on it one 1700x to another I'd love to help you out. Especially in gpupi 1B, that's my bench for ryzen. I managed to get mine to 4.19 ghz, although at a slightly crazy 1.6v, on some really good watercooling.
Definitely appreciated Thank you :ws:
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I noticed that you had only a few subs on your 1700x, did you buy it a few days before comp end to bench? Yes.
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first thing we need to adress is the availability of the hardware list, preferably at least 2-3 weeks before compo starts. So competitors can search fleabay and co to get the required hardware.
How did you guys like it this year? less exotic requirements fopr motherboards, CPUs and co. Even some stages could be perfectly done on just water/chilled cooling setups
Definitely on the first part.
Personally I liked this year cause it forced me to up my game delving into DDR4 supported platforms.
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That would be completely insane but very fun!
It could be altered in different ways. Say instead of first 2 weeks say wait 30days for first stage to end and then every 2 wks after that. Or something like that.
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I was more saying that if you've missed 6 weeks and you're already 8 weeks in then you'll have a very hard time competing with a team that's 8 for 8. One way around this would be to have each stage worth more points the later in the comp it is. So for example the 2 stages from the 1st 2 weeks may be worth 50 points each, but then the 2 stages from weeks 7 and 8 would be worth 100 points each. So that it hurts to miss stages early but there's still a chance for a comeback if your team was DOA initially. Kinda like how the final jeopardy can reverse the placing as long as you at least stay remotely close. This would still discourage sandbags as long as the final 2 stages were enough points to reverse the placing while not being enough so as to not require early subs assuming we had a case like this time where OCN held a pretty significant lead until the last few days. But I do really like your idea Mr. Paco as it would add an interesting twist to the competition and encourage "sportsmanlike conduct".
Ah yes, I see what you mean. Liking the point spread idea.
As said nothing will please everyone. But with a twist n mix-up every so often should help some how.
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I like that twist, it doesn't harm people who can't bench until later in the comp too much, and it also helps reduce how hectic the end of the comp is as the last 2 weeks there's only 2 stages you have to worry about and if you missed subs earlier you can't worry about them now. The only disadvantage with this is that after a certain point there will be some teams that just quit as they've already lost too many stages to have a chance at competing to the end.
Lets say team A missed the first 2 weeks, you never know what other team(s) may miss any of the future weeks. So it would be a huge mistake to step out after the first missed 2 weeks. A team leading the whole comp can miss the final 2 weeks then BOOM a change of the guard takes place
;)Thats where the undisclosed prize(s) comes into play (if any). No one knows if its $1000 worth of hw or $10 tube of thermal paste. Just like lotto gotta be init to win it... Till the end
But again, its just an idea...
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@Leeghoofd, you obviously are here at Bot because of your passion for OCin & Benchmarking. You joined the bot staff cause of that passion and wanted to help make this thing of ours that much better in what ever way you can. Dont let the comments of a few change that.
As a team Capt. you try to lead by example and there was absolutely nothing wrong in the way you arranged n executed your teams participation in the comp.
DAM GOOD JOB!!! well done.
At the end of almost every comp, there has always been sour grapes with some for one reason or another and that wont change because you can never and will never please every one %100 of the time. You never know it might be me bunnyin next year
.Point is; where the crown for this year PROUDLY...
Heres a possible twist for future comp.
An example; 24 sub-stages in 12 weeks (3months).
Announce that at the end of every week 2 undisclosed stage(s) will end
.Prizes: Undisclosed till the end
Anyway just my 2cents...
Be well :celebration:
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It was supposed to be a FUN comp.
This is turning into something ridiculous for lack of a harsher word.
Its one thing if a sub was made with blatant disregard for the rules or wrong background on screen shot for comp then yes it needs to be removed, but when it comes to something trivial like opening the ram SPD tab instead of MEMORY tab in cpuz then its up to the discretion of the MOD team.
Michael has been doing a great job so far with prior comps, is fair in his decisions. Sure some may not agree with him (like I have in the past) but in the end he did his best to be equal and fair to all. Cant ask for anything more.
So I say let him do his thing and may the chips lay where they land.
Thanx websmiles for all you do...
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Could you please add this
MSI X99S XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM/USB3 (MS-7A21)
to the data base?
Thank you.
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Congratulations to all teams that participated.
Great showing by all.
Super proud to be part of Warp-9 team ...
Websmiles has nothing else to do... J/K
Thank you bot for the opportunity to compete against some fantastic team...
However with all that said; I realize that sites tend to lag because of users on it, but need to really look into the eSports pages. On a regular its very slow to load/refresh, but last night was just unbelievably ridiculous. From about 24hr prior to end was only able to get it in just 2 subs (some my error) but the waiting/loading/timed out/etc was bananas...
But in the end it was fun.
Thank you :celebration:
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And to those talking about how the current two leaders "have it already in the bag", the last week, and especially the last 24 hours, is where the show really starts. Been many a competition where OCN's been at the top, or near the top, and surprise maneuvers near the end have changed that rather quickly....
So very very true. It has been proven many times.
It all boils down to the last 24hrs when the sleeper teams emerge
JUST HAVE FUN!!!
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FWIW, W9 is not in it for the prizes. We would be doing the same thing we are now if there weren't any.
And we have...
IIR it was Team Cup 2015
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I wonder why there is an mvp individual price at a team competition anyway, it looks as if hunting for this becomes more important than boosting the team^^
As a test to see what team really practices team work and puts the TEAM before personal pride instead of battling among them selves
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OK... Me likes
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Thank you Sir :ws:
Have a single or a few stages for Xeons and titans
in HWBOT Competitions
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Most definitely
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