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  1. EVGA Gtx 275 Co-Op - 80$
    MSI R9 290X Lightning - 100$
    Nvidia GTX 9800 GX2 - 70$
    Asus Matrix Platinum R9 290x (original box and everything) -180$
    Two 780 ti Kingpin cards (oem boxes/packaging) - 95$ each interested in both
    Asus Matrix Platinum Hd 7970 - 135$
    Asus Matrix Platinum Gtx 580 (another rare card) -200$

    Bit late as my forum acc was locked over the weekend but interested in the above :D 

  2. 13 minutes ago, Splave said:

    Idk bro your scene 14 looks pretty high compared to rauf. I can also compare apples to oranges. 

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    Let's be clear you are complaining about my score highlighted below. Are you kidding me? What an absolute joke. What do you think my score should be? Above or below the guys on water. XD

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    Exactly; thats why aside of the min (momentarily log) you can actually compare the scene average I believe which should be a better indicator due to its duration.
    Each scene takes a few seconds and the average on ours is 221.7 FPS while Rauf's is 222.03. Thats for scene 14.

    Now, on your sub, avg fps on scene 16 are: 282.4 (360.7 max).
    Ours is 208 avg (max 236) and rauf's 209 avg (238.9 max).
    Yours got 35% higher average for this scene vs the current #1 and 51% increase over max fps.
    How does this make sense to you?


    Because the overall impact is not that high (1 out of 17 scenes), does this mean that it isn't bugged?

  3. 24 minutes ago, Splave said:

    Deflecting what, that you can sit on the most valuable submissions in single card locked in forever? You can go on vacation for a month, nothing changes in the ranks right big joke because ECC score will never beat a non one. Must be a nice position to be in, do you want to trade? Why dont you delete your current scores and bench with ECC on and see how it feels. You will lose to guys on water cooling also for your efforts. Seems legit. 

     

    If you think any scores are bugged hit the report button. Thx

     

    you are focusing on ECC on/off while the main thing is that your score is bugged.
    Same case/criteria you started this thread against others' scores/subs on the very first post of this thread.
    Even wrote "2. If you are "unsure" then ask a mod or even me if it seems out of line. It is quite easy to read. "
    Probably you missed your own memo here.

    Now, regarding the sitting on locked rankings, I don't think that is on us.
    We flagged it and provided as much info as early as possible to get this fixed.

    You are in a position where you bought a gpu to bench (hopefully by worth you don't actually mean what you paid :)) ) while knowing that the rules are in the state they are. Totally your option/choice.

    We spent more than 300L on benching 4090 (1 L of ln2 costs 15 USD in some countries) and will most likely need to do that again to re-bench everything even though our scores are legit/in-line (recorded video for most of them).

  4. 47 minutes ago, Splave said:

    So you should get the courtesy of notice when ecc results would go live. While I sit here with a $2600 paperweight currently. 

    The way things move around here you won't have to rebench you will just sub 4090ti. Sounds great for everyone ?

    I think you are deflecting a bit here.
    1st post on this thread, you go in as the authority setting up the steps of punishment for those who got bugged scores either intentionally or unintentionally.
    Now, you didn't just post an ECC Off score which is against the rules (temporary or not) but actually a bugged one.

    So much for "We need to be better users." (2nd line of your post).

    Basically, since its taking time to make a decision (agreed; it takes too long and we also want to rebench :) ) it made sense to post a bugged score (enter rhetorical questionmark)

    PS. About the courtesy of knowing. Changes that affect a big part of bot should be treated with the appropriate respect and be rolled out with an actual public-official notice. 
    IIIRC, it was during the 3rd week of December (basically end of the season) when the multi-gpu (3090) legacy scores were pulled without notice and lack of an official statement.
    Just based on some comments/discussions that took place back in June.

  5. 30 minutes ago, Splave said:

    How would you know what a result with ECC looks like, your scores apparently dont require it right ;) 

     

    what's really confusing is forcing ECC on people now and leaving old ECC results. How am I supposed to compete? Seems fair right? Only 1.3k less from only enabling ECC. Also safedisks bugged runs are also left so whats up with that? Only my results get removed it's hilarious to me at this point. 

     

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    Actually spent enough time comparing ECC on vs ECC off on multiple benchmarks and already provided input I believe to both the mod team and FM last year (25th of November to be precise).

    So there is an understanding of the actual impact of the perf loss from our end.

    To my understanding, old scores that seem to be in-line have remained till a decision is made.
    In between, the shift on ECC has been made to avoid additional bugged runs + have it as a testing to better identify what the best outcome would be. But hey, thats up to the mods to elaborate on.

    From our end, we have already communicated that if ECC On solves it (even with perf penalty as long as it applies to all and solves the issue) we are totally fine on having our scores removed as long as we are given a notice in advance allowing us to rebench with ECC On.
    That has been our only request so we don't wake up one day with the need to rebench everything overnight. :)

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  6. 19 minutes ago, nv1diafan said:

    Hello guys, just a tip about easy ecc detection: the supo benchmark runs with ecc off state vram 24564MB in the verification link, while with ecc on 23028MB. In 3dmark with ecc off: 24576MB, with ecc on: 23552MB.

    When ecc is enabled less amount of vram is reported because it reserves some amount.

    Exactly; same on GPUZ window as well.

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  7. On 11/20/2022 at 3:21 AM, Splave said:

    I propose that:

    1. If you post a known bugged run you get a warning, then a vacation.

    2. If you are "unsure" then ask a mod or even me if it seems out of line. It is quite easy to read. 

    3. We require monitoring already in 3dMark benches, I propose we show the FPS and FPS average graph section in the result screenshot, if you cant fit it add a second screenshot with it. 

    4. Always welcome to video / disclose tweaks to mods for doubters. 

     

    With the blessing of Roman/Albrecht, people have a week to remove results that "oh maybe it did have a lot of artifacts, or maybe it does seem too high" before we dive in and hand our warnings, or vacations for multiple infractions. 

     

    Im sorry if you feel like I am always the one exposing this stuff, but why do I always have to be the one to do it?  We all work hard on this stuff and an even playing field is the of the utmost importance. Without it this places means nothing. Let's do better, and be better. .

    This is getting confusing now :)

    Is yours with ECC on? Cause this is how it looks at the moment.

    Scene 16 average FPS: 282 FPS

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    vs ours:

    Scene 16 avg FPS: 208 FPS
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    and Rauf's:

    Scene 16 avg FPS: 209.78 FPS

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    Also this seems bugged and ecc is incorrectly stated as on

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