Deanzo

I'm not 100% if I understand the time frame for each season, the cut off elimination rounds etc First post and many others are just big walls of texts, with much I don't care about. But if I've got this right in my head now, total season is only 3 months, but the first elimination is after 10 weeks (give or take) So two weeks per benchmark (yea, yea, it's a team, you don't have to do it all yourself) With in that time, you need to sort, test/bin the hardware needed for the five benchmarks. And as much as PJ has got a little mad in some of his posts about members being upset about having to use old hardward. It is in fact what he said in the first post it could be.. So if the round with SPI in it is with an under $50 cpu, Yes, there will be alot of testing/Binning to find the best one. Or WPrime with only a two core CPU And every 3 months, you start again with who knows what config from how long again I for one see it as a boat load of work. As a comp, I in fact like the idea, and would take part in that kind of thing from time to time. But as a way to only run the "pro" leader board, No.

I see, thanks Not trying to be an @ss, But how do we keep up to date with anything that gets changed ? Maybe I missed another thread, Two days ago you posted.. Yes I can read it only says "95% certain" Will, could benchmarks change before the start of the next stage. Or will it be locked in for the full year ?

You can't, every new score that you get in the round that is higher, gets posted there and then. You can not save them till later. But, and it's a good but. It's only the score that everyone else can see at that time. Not the screen shot, so no one knows the settings you used to get it. {edit} other than the staff member standing over you making sure you didn't cheat, though thats also another story for another day PJ, What about the leaderboard thing I asked about ?

Hey PJ, If each block/benchmark runs for say 2~3 months. With in that time, is there a leaderboard that says X team is number One! Even in the first round. ie: on the first day of the comp, the team that post a score, even if on air, is shown as Number One in the World ? If this is the case, The team/s may need to do alot of re-benching each block to stay number one. If not, Then no ones going to post anything good till the last 5mins of each block. And on a side note. Sandbagging seems to get a hard time here, which is crazy. Showing your best score before time is almost up, helps lazy overclockers. It shows others what driver works best, mem setting, bclocks etc, It also tells them what kind of score can be done. Now that overclocker doesn't have to do all the hours of testing you did, and knows the score he has to beat. Guys here like to talk about F1, you dont see teams showing other teams their test data before the race. And thats what a screenshot does. /rant One last thing, I also find it odd after all the bagging Nicks comp got when he said teams could use old scores, you are going to do it in this one for the first year. Which makes the CPU-Z round pointless

You can do it, 160K is not far off!!!

Girth FTW

What do you mean no thanks to sniper, if Dino wasnt here we would be at least 100 points ahead. Lets send him out for coffee and see what we can do!

Hard to be %100 sure, but..... After a few hours of testing 1000, 1300 and 1500 on the gpu, it "seemed" like it helped. Now the score jumps around alot, but when we looked at the avg then it seemed like it was setting. So to be safe when posting this score, we have listed it as 1500.

You should have heard the room when we did a 163400 run about a hour before the score above. This one not so much, even though its better, on the lower score CH was 35fps better.

@ Splave, hahahaha I know right, though I'd ban me for putting up such a junk score lol @ hokiealumnus, hey mate, long time @ Uncle "The Rap King" Fester. Hahahaha yeah I know, but if you check out the other main 3d scores they are on the same OS and GPU clocks, little to no tweaks, for an up coming TT thing. Bench this setup in 3D "for real" when I get time, and who knows when that will be. All I care about right now is benching 01 & 32M. I'm going to start on a real 32m run/s next week.

Higher vcore makes it unstable, 1.78 true

JJJJJJUNK lol Nice one mate

Somewhat pointless to even try and reply to that, as some will only see what they want. But I'll try... As I have already said. Using the same motherboard was well with in the rules (till it was changed the other day) as it is for all benching here at the bot. So I have booked flights already, that money is spent, I can't get it back. So I was somewhat upset I had wasted my money on a rule change. And think it's somewhat unfair I'd have to spend even more money when everything I had set up was well with in the rules, untill they were changed. Not sure what part of that you can't understand. Newegg, Frys etc etc Do not ship overseas, so no I can't order from them. I could have a friend order it for me, then on ship. Price of the board $$$ Wire him the money add $25 for that. Shipping $65 or soo GST (import tax) 15% of the price of the board + shipping Customs fee $25 No, I don't think thats ok after I have already paid for flights, doing something that is well with in the rules, again untill they were changed. And these rules have been in place for a long time at the bot. So it is fair that I didn't think anything was going to change after the heats were started. As I said at the bottom of my last post, even though massman has now said I can use Carls mobo, some here will still look for drama and get all worked up about it. To me, your post makes this point.

Hear what you are saying Gatman, Though in this case, I don't feel dishonest at all. I'm spending a boat load of time and money testing hardware and settings here on my own. And I'd point out we are using our own CPU and our own GPU, which is not the same as what you were thinking about doing. This comp (for the most part) is about getting the video card clocks as high as you can, with the right setting for 3D (2D counts for alot less) And I know the others are doing the same. For me, I cant even buy a board, there are none for sale. So god knows what MSI/HWbot thinks I can do about that So poping over to Syndey where the ln2 costs alot less and I can use all my per tested hardware (really only the video card that matters for 3D 11) in a Motherboard I cant even buy here, makes a lot of sense, well to me anyhow. I have taken part in every MOA/GOOC that they have let Kiwi's enter, and would have liked to have done the same again under my own name. For everyone As I understand it (but could be a little off) only James and I are short on Socket 2011 Mobo's. So he is/was going to use Jono's in Perth, where I was going to use Carls in Sydney. **Note that Jono wont be in Sydney and I wont be in Perth, and if you don't know Oz, look on a map, they are a long, long way apart. Even though we are not all on the same hwbot team, we like to meet up at events down here, have some beers, bench and help each other out where we can. And at all of those meet up's over the past few years, We have always been up front about it (hard not to be when we talk about it as much as we do) and never have scores been posted that even looked like they came from the same rig. I can see from the last heats, this whole on line thing here is going to be one big drama, no matter if I do everything right and up front. Time to move on with my day, and just help out the guys that were able to buy a motherboard.

Thanks for the offer my friend, But two issues. It will be $65US each way, and they may hit me up for a %15 import tax (doesn't matter if it's on loan etc here) And the rules (at this time) say "No system components (CPU, mainboard, memory or graphics card) may be shared between individual MOA participants Doesn't say heats or anything of the like, so I still couldn't do that, even if I was happy sinking yet more money into this. But again, thanks for the offer.

Just great, thanks for the rule change No one here is looking at using the same GPU for 3D or CPU for SPI. I've starting testing retail 3770K's, which is now a total waste of my money. Ordered a 7970 Lightning, was holding off getting another card till after seeing what non ref 680's are like. But I ordered it as I was going to need the 7970 for this comp. Booked flights to Sydney to use Carls Mobo, as there are Zero MSI Socket 2011 boards for sale here, on top of that (not that it matters as there is no stock) flights are $200 cheaper than the board lol, as well as the ln2 is much, much cheaper there. In the first post there is a quote, kind of asking for more members to take part, as total numbers help to get more/on going events. Yet in the same post, the rules are changed which makes it even harder to take part...well done, and thanks for wasting my money.

He was just sandbagging his own score! Australians, they just can't be trusted

Man you paid more than me :banana: Only just went on sale here in NZ $999.99 ($772US) And by the way Big Fellow, a Big Congradulations on your Win!

+1 Higher OC, and a better score = Win! Well done Suicide

Nice score and clocks mate.

Crazy clocks mate, and nice score!

Hot score and card Bro!

Matrix...Nice!

Well done mate.