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  1. bought 6 more w3503 and heres the 3rd one i tested doing 3400, still 3 more to test but too lazy to test right now and i wanna go sleep think ill hit ram limit very soon since vdimm at 2.3v, also these xeons seen to really like running at 1.94v vtt, just that they degrade somewhat quickly so only good for a few runs atleast thats what i saw with that previous w3503 above this post dunno how much farther i can bin chips and hope for higher freq cause 3500 is probably within reach but i have my doubts for 3600 atleast on air, still pretty funny that i can just blow right past all of the bloomfield ln2 ram freq records on air without even trying for the most part since this is still probably a pretty mid cpu, decent but not the very best and i really need to buy a wifi card so i can sub these freq alongside crossflashing that ex58 ud3r so i can get the 16x multi to work, speaking of which why does the 18x multi not work on my x58a ud3r? using bios fb since the newer bioses bork 1:1 uncore memclk and make it straight up not post (stuck at code d8) and fc fd fe are gone from the gigabyte site
  2. bought 3 w3503s, 1 was equivalent to my trash i7 930 but a little bit better (3120 1.86v), 1 hardwalled at 2900 1.7v, and the one above looks like it can just about do 3400 with a tweak or maybe even a ram swap but highest ive gotten was 3392 (didnt take a pic) as it insta shuts down or crashes when i set 3400 with setfsb, seems to like vtt at ~1.94v so looks like these chips really like high vtt so quite abit better than my best i7 930 these are really low bin and im sure most of the samples i get will be trash but for the equivalent of around 65 cents i think just mass buying these is better than buying a single w3565 or w3580 and hoping its actually a decent sample and not a pos that wont clock 3300+ on the rams, besides im just aiming for max ram freq, and ive also loosened the subs which seems to have somewhat lightened the load on the imc so ill do some retests with my usual i7 930, vdimm ranges from 2.3-2.4v though i did also try 2.44v once and im starting to think ill run into a ram limit sooner or later with my current sticks so i wonder if 4gbit mfr or hynix 2gbit bfr/dfr would be any good for 3600+ on x58, or do i just buy some more gdies and bin them? ecc might also be an interesting option just to take cursed screenshots with 3400+ ecc ddr3 =p ill call it a night since i wanna go sleep and ill probs continue this later, and also buy some more w3503 with my money cause i have not been able to make up my mind on what i wanna buy for awhile be it g1 assassin or buy more random boards to fix and flip, hopefully ill get a 3400 screenie later
  3. @ground top is at 2864c10 trfc 96 2t tightened subs and p95 largeffts stable bottom is at 2910c10 trfc 150 3t subs completely loose and crashes on p95 even with the absolutely horrid subs on the 2910c10 it still manages to beat the 2864c10 by 6 seconds and i also made a run with the same subs as 2864 and that shaved off an extra 2 seconds, i have no idea why such a small freq bump drastically improves performance like that even with the absolute garbage subtimings managing to beat half decent actually tightened ones, and i think when i was trying for 3000 i managed to get it to the 8 min 42 second mark but it errored out at the end, maybe ill try again see what happens also found some xeon w3503 for dirt cheap and seems like theres plenty of em too so im considering just buying all of em to bin imc for maximum freq even if the low multi makes the things basically useless for anything else just wanna make sure before buying that their ram multi isnt locked like the xeon x/e/l otherwise im just gonna buy another w3520 or even a w3565 btw where do you get tons of these chips? cause there doesnt seem to be that many around and the sellers with a sizable amount of them are overpricing the shit out of these xeons to the point that id be better off buying a w3670 or an i7 970
  4. 4:5 seems to work and yes this is the only decent screenshot i have even though bclk is reading 336 since 1:1 +1 also works but i have no decent screenshot of it, no real improvement over 1:1 3:2 at this speed results in the board shutting off after trying to train the 2nd ram stick and at lower speeds does post but windows insta bsods or gives 50 page fault bsod maybe ill give bios ff or fe or whatever a retry on this board see if 1:1 +1 3:2 and 4:5 behave any differently p95 crashes windows on both 4:5 and 1:1 + 1 uncore but 1:1 its just fine bonus cursed 4800 ddr3 pic just because yea gets real unstable when i push bclk and its not vioh or qpi related cause it still does this with slowmode so just uncore meh chip so doesnt do 4800 or even 4600 uncore at 1.8v so gotta find a better chip usually i clean boards by taking all heatsinks off + full discharge by shorting clr cmos + powerbutton and the ps_on sometimes then rinse + dunk in a bucket of water, dunno if this would help here or not cause a bad socket you just wanna swap with a rework station also lynnfield 3000+? ive never seen one of these with a >10x multi since the i5 750/760 that i have are stuck to 10x multi, maybe the 875k? cant check cause hwbot is broken rn, im sure the imc is capable just bclk limit due to low multi that sucks, but i guess if i have 5$ i can burn ill buy that x5570, probably just to trade it for a xeon w chip
  5. welp heres max triple channel for me at 2758 cause third channel craps out above this with 3 sticks i discovered that the uncore needs to be atleast 3 multis above ram multi so 17x minimum for a ram multi of 14x, dunno if this will instacrash p95 but suspecting that it will instacrash p95 basically makes high freq triple channel unusable on bloomfield which sucks does spi 32m working indicate that it doesnt instacrash if you run p95 largeffts? ill do some more testing later cause this session got cut short due to having to go to school (woke up at 5am) edit : forgot to add that 1:1 uncore memclk or uncore multi below 3 multis above ram multi causes constant stuck at c3 code or half posts that dont successfully post no matter how much vtt i throw at it though i will try diff bioses cause this could just be a bios bug havent tested fc fd or fe bioses cause unavailable but ff and fh seem to completely break 1:1 uncore so it gets stuck at d8 and doesnt even attempt to train rams, and bios fb for the ex58 ud3r causes dual rank rams to not post at high freq with 1:1 uncore memclk whilst ff fixes this, so maybe this uncore multi thing is just a stupid bios bug just gotta make up my mind if i wanna keep this ud3r or not and sell all 3 of my ud3rs in favour of the aformentioned giga evga and foxconn boards cause if i do keep it ill probably mod this thing with a socketed bios chip to make bios swapping much easier and maybe some voltmods for voltage adjustment on the fly and some bigger voltage ranges like >2.6v vdimm just to torture my garbage tinfoil f die stick 😃
  6. im curious if that ratio inbetween 1:1 and 1.5:1 uncore memclk is stable or does it insta crash when using p95 largeffts? with bloomfield anything inbetween 1:1 and 2:1 will instacrash p95 largeffts i have managed 2800 p95 largeffts stable with 2 double sided hynix cfr which turned out to be pretty shit only doing 2800c11 at 2.1v and seems like they degrade over 2v which is not ideal when the board can push 2.6v and probs higher if i voltmod, now those 2 sticks arent stable at this setting anymore likely due to degradation so yeah lesson learned get some samsung 2gbit d dies instead boardlimit at only 3900 is pretty sad though for a board ive been seeking out and being basically unobtainium here in indo common boards are asus but those are trash for mem freq alongside almost every other amibios board cause they force 1.5:1 or 2:1 uncore memclk ratio, itd be nice if those boards could be bios modded for 1:1 ratio or atleast free uncore setting like the gigabyte boards as they seem to be pretty decent hardware wise, maybe amibcp? they are socketed bios so its not exactly hard to mod and unbrick the bios as for triple channel my i7 930 tops out at somewhere around 2500 post with 3 gdie sticks, even if i push vtt to 1.7v it makes no diff compared to running at 1.5v (neccesary for aformentioned 2800c11 setting with dual rank cfrs), doesnt help that the x58a ud3rs have a shit 3rd channel that wont go past 2800, with the dual rank cfrs which i have 3 of yea 2500 doesnt even post, constantly stuck at c5 code ecc is something ive been wanting to toy around with just because 3000+ ddr3 with ecc is just cursed asf and 4gb + 8gb are dirt cheap not to mention there are 16gb and even 32gb+ ecc sticks so high density 3000+ would be pretty interesting, do the w xeons work with 1rx4/2rx4 or are they just stuck to the usual 1rx8/2rx8 sticks? and im curious if the regular i7s can run ecc rams gdie is pretty good but im also curious about any other notable 1gbit 2gbit and 4gbit ics aside from the usual stuf like mfr psc hypers etc. mainly just wanna clock the shit out of em for fun, currently eyeing hynix 1gbit bfr/dfr and 2gbit bfr/dfr as some ics that may be decent for high clocks considering theres some llano subs using these ics albiet at cl14 psc seems like its lighter on the imc compared to gdie as 2 stick 3150 runs at 1.6 or 1.7v whilst 2 stick gdie is walled to 3100 at 1.7v but all my psc sticks are trash and id rather not use subzero just because itd be funny to destroy and take over all the bloomfield subs especially subzero ones with pure air, and the best subzero i can do is probably just jerry rigging some ram cooler out of a tec though poor mans liquid nitrogen with 99% IPA and dice looks interesting too and i will toy around with proper subzero at some point that isnt just a tec northbridge cooler with a heatsink ontop of it trying to push my bios modded p5q to 600fsb (best i got was 590 iirc) im also curious about the x/e55xx xeons cause x/e56xx xeons are stuck to 10x ram multi so i wonder if the same applies to the x/e55xx xeons and i should just avoid em and get w35xx since there are some x5570 going for 5$ atm i have about 40-50$ and i cannot make up my mind on what to spend it on cause theres a giga g1 assassin ive haggled down to 40$ and theres an ftw3 at 50$ alongside a supposedly broken classified 4x sli or whichever evga board thats just x16 pcie spam for 27$, there used to be some flaming blades available but i think ill have to wait for those to pop up again, just wanna know if those boards are any good if i wanna push high ram freq since the g1 assassin is a higher end board but the rams are further away from the cpu, evga and foxconn i dont think they have the forced uncore ratio nonsense and foxconn in particular is interesting due to 1dpc ive also got an ex58 ud3r pushed to 2800 but 16x and 18x multi is broken on bios ff so i think ill crossflash it to the x58a ud3r fb bios, but if there are better bioses to crossflash to thatd be nice to know rather than having to desolder a bunch of time
  7. bye bye all bloomfield air and ln2 records =p welp i was only hoping for 3200 on this chip but went 100mhz past that all the way to 3300 vtt at 1.81v cause the cpu decided that it didnt want to scale to 1.83-1.87v today apparently the 2nd gdie stick was limiting me even though it was only half detected, bios is bugged so that 16x multi needs 2 sticks to boot but figured out that as soon as training finished on the first stick i take the 2nd stick out and the 2nd stick doesnt have to be fully inserted and it posts just fine, as soon as i started doing this 3200 booted with ease and i think 3232 with 202bclk boot is also possible on this particular chip setfsb got it all the way to 3300 but going above that needs extra vtt not a particularly good i7 930 sample either, not a golden chip thatd do 4800 uncore at 1.6-1.7v, just a mid sample that does ~4200 at 1.7v atleast thats what id suspect itd do cause its not stable pushing high uncore so yeah a 16 year old kid with a mid i7 930 sample and a stick of gdie all completely on air has managed to obliterate all the bloomfield ambient and ln2 records now i just have to bin more cpus and maybe a better board alongside some rams that are lighter on the imc then 3400+ may be within reach, and i also have to buy a pcie wifi card to sub this, though i may just buy a xeon and some ecc gdie sticks just to put a cursed sub just for shits and giggles cause 3300+ ecc gdie sounds downright ridicolous as for the mobo theres a g1 assassin for 40$ and an ftw3 for 50$ and im looking for a board thatll do 3000+ on the 3rd channel, if these 2 wont do that kinda speed on the 3rd channel im curious what mods i can make to my current x58a ud3r(s) maybe something to do with volts? for voltmods im gonna have to spend 10$ on a decent multimeter (ut33d+) and i wanted to do some anyways on lga 775 since i also hold the record for g31 with my g31m s2c at 542 fsb and i wanna push it higher with higher vnb vtt and gtl/reference volts, if it wont go higher i can also buy an eg31mf
  8. some gdies with an i7 930 + x58a ud3r running 3136 ddr3 on air but havent validated due to no working wifi card since my pci wifi card wont work for whatever reason Gdie seems to be quite stressful on the imc as ive booted 3200 in bios before with my best psc stick at only 1.7v vtt rather than the 1.775v this 3136 or 1.875v 3184 (yet to be windows booted and screenshotted cause im shooting for 3200) though the psc stick is a whole lot worse than these gdie sticks cause its just a green pcb transcend 1333 stick so itll only windows boot 3000 and itll crash as soon as i run p95 or on its own where the gdies will only error out Mainly looking at hynix 1/2gbit bfr/dfr to see if theyll be abit less stressful on the imc otherwise ill have to chill the pscs with a tec if i wanna hit max freq, but that wont be as fun as obliterating literally all the hwbot nehalem records set with ln2 while only using pure air cooling hint to how i got this speed lies in the cpuz pic and the gigabyte board And this cpu isnt exactly the best chip i can get since it seems to be somewhat above average but not one of those insane samples thatd do 4800 uncore at 1.7v vtt so im looking for one of those prefferably in xeon form cause itd be funny to sub some cursed scores with 3000+ ecc ddr3
  9. What datasheet is that table from? Im interested in the full datasheet, kinda looks like an intel datasheet
  10. That looks like dfr not bfr judging by the end of the ic code, but c14 at this speed seems kinda meh depending on the volts
  11. Stage 3 Managed to submit on my phone instead, had to freaking transfer the photos via whatsapp also did i screw up any of my subs?
  12. Had to submit via phone cause for whatever reason subbing via laptop yeilds garbage error 500
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