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Everything posted by Matsglobetrotter

  1. This was a team cup not the country cup but can see the issue, even more so in the country cup. Even in the olympics there are situations participants take part but dont represent a country so it could be that there could be an option to simply represent an international non affiliated entity. Meanwhile i for sure would not link teams with countries as such. I like my Team and there is no team in Sweden since years. Too bad i could not help my team this time due to my move.. The question is now should I be on country cup for Sweden, Italy. Im still a Swede but in Italy:-)
  2. Well some people like Masochism. But cudos to those who still try push the limits like that. Its tough but great to see anyone succeed on it.
  3. you are a busy man hehe keep going. soon ill have access to my hardware also hehe
  4. My suggestion would be to test any potential new introductions to fundamental changes in categories by organising one or more challenges specifically set up for such changes so the community can actually see what it does. If it turns out to have real value and gain interest then it can be discussed afterwards with more evidence base.
  5. I suggest admin accept comments as they are without blasting a user. it normally create better open discussion among the community. there are like/dislike buttons. Meanwhile I'm sure it was just a heated moment while trying to resolve something for the bigger community. Keep pushing forward i know the intent is good. Cant wait to finally get all my gear through customs to start benching... in a month...
  6. Great the user community give useless input. Thanks you very much... appreciate the comment.
  7. to me the changes proposed sounds like a Sponsor wanting to change the scoring to make them look better behind the scenes. core is core thread is thread. and if multicore is not competitive compared to old generation but it beat the crap out of a single core score then that is what it is. Very sad moment when we try change a fundamental basis of he scoring. Indeed no processors for with equal threads to cores has been competitive for years when they should have been. We want performance on both single core and multi core and multi thread. tough luck if the new processors cant do it right. I think that would reflect the reality of the trickery.
  8. OK have done what i can for now. Will relocate myself from Manila to Rome with my gear so no OC for atleast 2 months.
  9. please delete this one for challenger legacy missing subdetails https://hwbot.org/submission/4766061
  10. by DESIGN, development 10900k is 10 physical core CPU. not that hard to understand. Cores are cores, threads are threads and as per challenge rules you can only use the 10900k in the challenge DIV I round 2 not in the other divisions.
  11. Hi, I dont call anyone a cheat. No sure what auto generated message you get from Hwbot in the background. I reported the score as impossible score and mention that it was not 4K. Even i get such messages. I also insisted the possible cheat naming is removed from the bot *you can see in chat forum on this. We all reacted on this score as for the challenge competition we all chase the top scorer and yours became just that πŸ™‚ the moderators can delete this one and then you just resubmit. no harrm done. the 4K tickbox is not available at first. you need to register the advanced serial number in catzilla once you reboot the option will be available.
  12. The higher end CPUs like 10900k has a better memory overclocking capability compared to a 10600K. it also has a different level of cache. So HWbot follows the actual cores as per CPU design (without hyper threading considered) that is also how cpus would be compared in any review by just about any magazine. The rules makes perfect sense and have done so for years. Why not just start following the same. We all have toπŸ™‚. If you note yes on some we cant beat the guys with RTX3090 however even those guys in some of the stages use an older GTX 1080ti to get the highest scores.
  13. some discrepancies in rules.the 3dMark stage shows no hwinfo which is ok to me as sysinfo would overrule (on cpu speed) but then aquamark shows ul sysinfo as requirement but cant be correct
  14. the changes on benchmark list no worries. The changes planned on Benchmark ranking overview I dont agree at all with. That is for me the most useful way to get an overview of what 2D benchmarks to run with what CPU's. (if we look at our own submissions tab then we cant see how well they rank thus the benchmark ranking overview is critical. By having the global, country and team rankings there i can also see if its even relevant to even try go for scores as well as help prepare for the challenges. Meanwhile i think it would be ok to show core 1 - 8 (or 2-10 cores) on a first page to limit the search load. Then a click button to extend to the rest of the core amounts. Meanwhile having been involved with web portals as well as organisational search engine development (not programatic but project level) I consider HwBot far ahead most portals in how data is presented and how it allow the user to look at data in the way that makes sense for the users thus different entry points and views of the same data, rather than just how a programmer think searches are to be done by a user (which is not user intuitive). I would prefer not to loose such πŸ™‚ I use the bot as a best practice example of how to do πŸ™‚
  15. hehe i love those 4k scores. is this the U.2 version?
  16. meanwhile I think any AS SSD submission that has 4K -64thrd higher than the sequential speed on either read or write must be buggered. It can be close to sequential but never above without something else being at play as in cache. Interestingly the above score also have a latency of 0.006ms. There is no SSD that has such a latency thus it indicates cache in memory.
  17. hmmm actually i retract my statement above on as ssd hehe. I have run it many times last month. However just tested a new thing. put priority to high then it fails to give correct results randomly. The score on the left is what normally should be seen. the score on the right is not possible on the read 4K-64Thrd. plain vanilla Win10 enterprize with no cache active.
  18. I am not convinced the AS SSD is buggered but who knows. Meanwhile i know the SSD drives in general are buggered. Seems that most SSDs are so hot they are always on the limit so always swap down the speed unless properly cooled. If i however run a properly cooled SSD like the optane drives i have, the scores are pretty consistant as they seem to manage to keep up the transfer throughput speeds over longer time than an ordinary Samsung drive for example. This is same behaviour i see on an ordinary file transfer in windows. a normal ssd start out great and then usually takes forever anyway once it heats up a bit. In any case i do like the idea of having an SSD bencher in the bot with scores. Especially when we can mix in raid configurations. meanwhile windows really takes a toll with all its crapware on the drive throughput so a bit of crap removal really do help πŸ™‚
  19. I like seeing new benchmarks being developed however i also realize that software seems to be a commodity that have short expiry date. The code is propriety and linked to a specific developer. The moment the developer get tired of the project the software somehow dies off. I liked Hwprime, Catzilla (when it worked) , XTU. I also like CPUZ as its the one single longest lasting benchmark/measurement tools that seems to surpass all the generations of CPU's and motherboards. i guess because its the so far most robust tool for the same (despite some flaws). I wonder what the lifespan has been for anything else in relation to that. What is great about CPUz is that it has its own score board also thus has its own ecosystem irrespective of the bot. Meanwhile I only validate to put it here on the bot. Fundamentally i think it would be dangerous for the longevity of the bot if it was dependent on inhouse developed benchers/tools for everything. CPUz is used by all communities not just hwbot. Its also the standard for most reviews in most magazines globally. Meanwhile scores Mhz, Ghz wont mean anything if we suddenly change validation to lighter loads. Meanwhile not even HWinfo, Ohm, Sysinfo, none of them seems to be able to confirm cpu core speeds relevantly across all platforms. This was proven in some of the challenges lately where CPUz was showing one value, HW info another sampling every xx milliseconds and then futuremark made some scores disqualified as sysinfo showed spikes 500 mhz beyond what we could even get any single core to do in reality. I am non believer in creating yet a new solution if there is an issue in a software. Try fix the software first πŸ™‚ especially if its a very active one. Meanwhile ofcourse CPUz is also the golden standard all hwbot submissions is demanding for frequency validations same as GPUz for gpuz.
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