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  1. My SuperPI 1M on new Pentium 4 get into my submissions! Hoooray! ...just none of these Celeron ones. Perhaps because they are too slow? I mean, come on, 1min 12sec for SuperPI 1M? When WR is 5:09 sec? Gotta be kidding me how this thing is slow. But P4 SuperPI was accepted. I was under the fear that I had to include the MemSet screenshot, but I can't. MemSet did not support VIA P4M800 chipset. I already complained about it: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?92190-New-Memory-Tweaker-for-Intel-Chipsets/page67 But I have my doubts that we can see any change in near future. I probably sooner trash the board that we see the support! (just kidding, I try to salvage it to get it's AGP working well at any cost) But currently there is no way that I can run MemSet. Only the CPU-Z infos, perhaps bios screen... and that it is. Yet surely I want to submit the 32M score - it took me 1 hour and 9 min to complete on the Celeron! Too much CPU time to waste there
  2. memtest: 7 hours straight and fine! Prime 95 memory test at the tightest timings the rams can handle - that means CL2! (2-3-2-7) And I would very much recommend them the stability, because there are damn good caps used for rams now: Prime 95 CPU test HDD tests did not reveal any problem: ...so I think we can rule HDD or HDD cabled problem out of the question. Also I would noticed HDD errors, and they are nonexistant.
  3. Looks like the version 1.5 is the latest bios: http://www.msi-computer.co.jp/support/bios/?p=PM8M3-V So I updated the bios, let almost the default settings (all default for AGP) - 8x, Aperture size 128MB, all on, Fast Writes Off. However no help. The SoF2 game works well - untill I hit the screenshot button. Then in crash: So bios are no help.
  4. I working with computes since 1991 and there is not much that I cannot understand, but this MSI mobo is challenging me. So, the mobo in question is a MSI PM8M3-V with PCB rev. 1.0 and latest bios v1.4 used. Board: MSI PM8M3-V (VIA P4M800) PCV rev. 1.0 Bios: Version 1.4 VGA: PNY 6800GT 256MB DDR3 350MHz/1GHz PSU: Enermax Liberty 620W PSU (replaced caps to quality ones!) CPU: 2800MHz Celeron D 336 (133x21) 1.350Vcore MEM: 2048MB OCZP4001G 2.5-3-2-7 200MHz 2.60V HDD: 500G Western Digital 16MB cache (WD5000AAKB) COOLER: Intel box cooler, checked, AS paste applied, cooling good (slowing all the way down to 1000 rpm in reality) OC: NONE! (tried FSB 133 -> 138 and it get unstable even in Firefox, lol) OS: Windows 2000 SP4 Czech More info: 19" iiyama ProLite E1980SD 1280x1024 75Hz DVI DVDRW NEC DV-4551A (16x DVDRW) IDE 100MB zip floppy with 7+1 USB2 reader Mitsumi FA404 Using PS2 mouse (Logitech MX510 red) OkiPage 14ex laser printer NetGear WGR614 fireWall / 54MBi WiFi - OFF The Cause -------------- While the mobo is perfectly stable in normal usage, gaming is a problem. At first, I was using there a Radeon 9100 card, yet it can play SoF2 well, so... I working hard to make the mobo stable, it is not stable in 3D games. In the end of making it stable it is not stable even in 2D Windows... lol. Increasing the voltage for AGP = bad idea. To cut long story short - at first, it was just a mobo full of known bad caps that sometimes refuse to boot and losing clock AND bios settings when power is cut off. Sometimes it also crash during SoF2 _LOADING_ (never gaming), but that it is. Very rare crash. So I replaced all the caps, put even these that aren't there back in action and used hi-grade caps. For example the best polymers that even exist Nichicon LE for Vcore and for voltage supply there are Nichicon HZ caps - the best elyte caps even made - king in terms of ripple current, only Samxon GA is "par to par" with them, but that it is. Sourced from Digikey, so, originals. Result - still not stable. So I blamed the Radeon 9100 with questionable caps and added 120mm fan blowing on it. Still no help, rare crashes of game. Fast Writes disabled, AGP 4x (R9100 cannot go faster), 1 WS Write/Read used, Calibration ON. So I replaced the Radeon 9100 with GeFroce 6800GT, that have only 3 caps (Chemi-con polymers) and worked well for me before. Truth is a years ago... http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189594 Problems get worser. Even exiting SoF2 or Quake3 is impossible now. It always freeze on exit...! It get reasonably stable for playing, yet try save screenshot and it crash ASAP. So I try lower the AGP rate (allow me to choose only 8x or 4x), disable Fast Writes, disable AGP Master 1 WS Write/Read and even disable AGP 3.0 Calibration Cycle (one by one). No help. So I toyed with the voltage, raising from 1.55 to 1.70 and no help either. (later I find that this is what makes matter even worser) Another thing that I added a huge nice heatsink on the NB, because the original one was pretty small and useless. And I discovered beneath it, that there was just a dip of white paste widely off center and that was it. Most of the heatsink did not even have contact with the chip...! So I tought - I got this! Laped a BIG heatsink, Arctic past used and screwed it tight on the NB... and again no help. So the last thing to toy with is the AGP Driving Value. It can be changed from 00 to FF, defaut on Auto show DA. Dunno what will happen, but I run out of ideas right now. Therefore I'm open to ideas. About the caps - there is one about 10uF SMD cap at the very end of AGP port. This cap I did not replaced. Could this be the culprit? Any suggestion about the Driving Value? I think - try 0 (00), 32 (20), 64 (40), 96(60), 128 (80), 160 (A0), 192 (C0), 224 (E0) and 255 (FF) and see, witch of these values give the best stability?
  5. Old MSI PM8M3-V (VIA P4M800) board, new P4 CPU Faster a "bit" - 45sec compared to a 72sec with Celeron D suxxka http://valid.canardpc.com/uv65p3 ...will be that enought? I again even validated every istance of CPU-Z...
  6. Guys, I wonder, why none of my submited SuperPI submissions are visible my ALL MY HWBOT submissions there: ...even I clearly made it day ago and they are nothing special or cheated in any way or form: As I just wanted to have stored the "performance" of the old HW and Celeron D in it clearly. The screenshots looks like this: And I cannot include the MemSet screenshot, as MemSet does NOT work on P4M800 (Plus?) chipset at all. Support only the VIA chipsets up to the KT600, so nothing like what the suggested screenshot in the rules I could produce, but I can produce the latest CPU-Z verified windows... is that not enought, or I doing something wrong?
  7. Massman - That is a quite poor excuse for rendering the system useless benchmark-wise. Also it is the most simple thing to add something like - IF RTC clock exist, use it. ELSE use own clock. Also that does not explain why Win7 did not suffer the same "bug." Some "bugs" that actually "speed-up" things are too much of a coincidence to happen in so envolved version of a flagship product, that is supposed to go thru serious betatesting.
  8. I did not believe in such BS, but being very skeptical about motives is the most rational way to approach things, IMHO.
  9. Movieman - ugh... that suxx. How about change your way of life to get more energy? I mean - less of the poisonous GMO food, more food that grow in wilderness and so on? Maybe even less WiFi as it is not healty at all...? But congratulations on making your E5-2670 work - even bios moding? Whoa... injecting a support for new CPU's?
  10. Pro tip - who can actually believe that this is a bug? I would be inclined to think that this was designed to happen... Because, well... anyone observed the same bug in Win7? No? Then... why change the RTC clock to be so dependent on the CPU clock, that can change up and down any way use want? Makes a little sense to see it as error...
  11. NASA is doing strange errors all the time, lol But this one was unforgivable! That one, on the other hand, is just a trackless Rover: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20979HR.jpg This is just laughable
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