Administrators websmile Posted May 18, 2015 Administrators Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Good job, but we had this before on z87 for example- if you check xs alex ro had a 4x2gb run at 2600 with psc long time ago, and subs he used are nearly identical on z87 - as said, you gain speed with 4 stick against 2 on air like you did at ddr2 times with gmh and at ivy or sb with PSC or Hyper/BBSE, but without cold you will lose to Samsungs imho quite clear, especially if someone can run 2933, but also on 2875 c9 sams - thanks for sharing for a bigger audience nontheless Edited May 18, 2015 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Yeah I never seen Alex Ro 4x PSC on Z87,this is something I taught myself (Ill be sure to look around before i post anymore results just incase someone has done it before me)and wasn't really trying to beat Samsung if I wanted to do that I just freeze my PSC.Was just showing people if they have no Samsung like myself you can get a nice boost with 4X PSC on air and Z97 it mite not work very well on cold with 4X PSC but I like to keep trying everything and if possible improve along the way.I always test air first but my goal is to then test on cold and improve if possible,I only use air as efficiency testing   Edit,its not just about subs too it also will require locking rtls and iols in if they start to wonder,rtls can go all over the place when trying 4 dims Edited May 18, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yeah I never seen Alex Ro 4x PSC on Z87,this is something I taught myself (Ill be sure to look around before i post anymore results just incase someone has done it before me)and wasn't really trying to beat Samsung if I wanted to do that I just freeze my PSC.Was just showing people if they have no Samsung like myself you can get a nice boost with 4X PSC on air and Z97 it mite not work very well on cold with 4X PSC but I like to keep trying everything and if possible improve along the way.I always test air first but my goal is to then test on cold and improve if possible,I only use air as efficiency testing  Edit,its not just about subs too it also will require locking rtls and iols in if they start to wonder,rtls can go all over the place when trying 4 dims  Well done bully  I have been testing 4x2GB config as well, but always fail with waza and can only pass non waza runs on air. On cold I can't even train c6 twcl 6 with four sticks at even 2600. I have tried setting RTL's manually and no go curious to see if you can get it to work Usain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well done bully  I have been testing 4x2GB config as well, but always fail with waza and can only pass non waza runs on air. On cold I can't even train c6 twcl 6 with four sticks at even 2600. I have tried setting RTL's manually and no go curious to see if you can get it to work Usain  Hey thanks loud,  I can do the above results on air 2666 cl8-12-8 but I just tried today with the memory on the SS -25 and its not really helping to much,if I try 8-11-8 it fails,was able to boot 2800 cl8 but unstable.Will try later to put the CPU on cold see if I can see any improvement,it seems its not the memory holding it back but imc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Little play this morning ,all air with little waza run,will test some more with different waza sizes and 4x2gb PSC Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Ran a 4X2Gb and seems its lot harder to pass 4x2Gb with the i7 then the Pentium even tho I believe this imc on the i7 is better then the Pentium imc  Could be another .300 faster time in it at these settings now that I worked something els out   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 forgot to add this here   hope to refill on Monday and try for some moar 5G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkDogg Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 forgot to add this here   hope to refill on Monday and try for some moar 5G  Holy crappo mate, that's quick.  Good luck once you get the refill.  I'm still stuck in 17.8's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Nice work loud,keep pushing it should finally have some LN2 myself soon and ill try the low clock stuff too,will be on Z97 Gigabyte to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Holy crappo mate, that's quick.  Good luck once you get the refill.  I'm still stuck in 17.8's.  finished the night with this:     Had some faster runs that kept failing at 16 or 22 fml, moar juice on Monday but it was a nice comeback, have not benched anything in a while.  Nice work loud,keep pushing it should finally have some LN2 myself soon and ill try the low clock stuff too,will be on Z97 Gigabyte to start with  Epic, let's get back to it, nothing beats lcc  Allen all ready has a nice head start on us bully time to get to work Edited May 30, 2015 by l0ud_sil3nc3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Nice work loud,yeah Splave got us good on this platform we been playing catch up from the beginning ahaha,well done on beating him and very nice efficiency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 First time really for me testing BBSE,just a quick stability test of the first kit off BBSE, looking ok, 1.91v all air 2133 8-9-8-24 kit   Will also give this kit a quick test soon also,another BBSE kit 2200 9-9-9-27   Have this PSC kit to test as well,real quick test of this kit seen 2700 1.9v all air Will finish up air testing and test further on LN2 memorys  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabishiihito Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 2200C9 Ripjaws BBSE don't clock well on air it seems. I know the kit I have won't do over 2400 8-10-7, I think Splave ran into the same thing but when he froze them they really took off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 tRP 7 possible at all bully? great find seems bbse is incredibly rare now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 tRP 7 possible at all bully?great find seems bbse is incredibly rare now  All air 2700Mhz all tight 1.94v with trp 7  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 All air 2700Mhz all tight 1.94v with trp 7Â Â Â Dude best BBSE in existence! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Be interesting what they do on cold,is cl6 normally possible with BBSE cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Did some quick test of my A-Datas with EK memory adapter for Div 2: Â Â http://hwbot.org/submission/2890663 Â Terrible picture quality, but you can see that the adapter works fine. RAM settings change from 2600 8-12-8 to 2726 7-12-7 while keeping CPU frequency at 4500 gave boost from 1107 to 1136. Although I could not tighten TRCD to 11, maybe I would have to go colder. It's second kit I'm testing on cold and both don't work 100% well - the other could do the same frequency but was unable to go tighter than 8-11-8 and didn't accept voltage over 2.05V. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Be interesting what they do on cold,is cl6 normally possible with BBSE cold?From what I know, CL6+tWCL6 is not possible on BBSE. Only CL5/6+tWCL8 or CL7+tWCL6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 From what I know, CL6+tWCL6 is not possible on BBSE. Only CL5/6+tWCL8 or CL7+tWCL6.  Thanks Sam,yeah I haven't seen anyone doing cl6 on them either,ill try cl6 myself and if no good I guess cl7-twcl6 be the go as cl5/cl6-twcl8 could be slower I would think  Nice pic odbytorq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Be interesting what they do on cold,is cl6 normally possible with BBSE cold? Â Â As Sam has said, cas 6 with twcl 6 is not possible on this ic (BBSE), but I think cas 7 with twcl 6 will be the limiting factor. Also the bottom thirds can not run 9-9-7 and only 11-11-11 on the OC Formula for me so I think in reality for BBSE to competitive you would need 2900 7-9-6-18 and even then I am not so sure it can hang with 2860 6-10-6 PSC with ultra tight thirds. Â Either way I can't wait to see what you do with these magical dimms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 As Sam has said, cas 6 with twcl 6 is not possible on this ic (BBSE), but I think cas 7 with twcl 6 will be the limiting factor. Also the bottom thirds can not run 9-9-7 and only 11-11-11 on the OC Formula for me so I think in reality for BBSE to competitive you would need 2900 7-9-6-18 and even then I am not so sure it can hang with 2860 6-10-6 PSC with ultra tight thirds. Either way I can't wait to see what you do with these magical dimms  Thanks,I didn't know about the 11-11-11,ill keep that in mind,the thing I'm thinking about is rtls as they = effiencey so if I try cl7 twcl6 rtls would be 38-39 so maybe cl5 twcl8 will do 36-37 rtls if twcl doesn't effect rtls as I haven't played much with twcl8  So if possible cl5 twcl8 rtls 36-37 vs cl7 twcl6 rtls 38-39,if twcl8 and rtls 36-37 are possible then it maybe faster then the cl7 twcl6 rtl 38-39,just thinking out loud.Will try it all see what I can do,hoping 2800mhz a least  The dims are scaling on air nice have taken them to 1.95v and they haven't reached limit yet so hopefully they scale on cold as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Little further testing on these BBSE sticks,running same as before 2700Mhz all tight only this time with trfc 72,all air......... 1.94v  I havnt really looked around to see if BBSE can normally run trfc this tight on air   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Tested some Gskll Pis 2000 9-9-9-24 kit of PSC today,not the greatest but Ive had worse.Is pcb code KO 8117 2720 8-12-8 all fairly tight 1.93v all air   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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