Noxinite Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I would like to know the dates when Stage 1 opens and when it closes. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Ambient/Extreme 3D battle Stage 1: August 20, 00:00 GMT+0 - August 30, 00:00 GMT+0 Stage 2: August 30, 00:00 GMT+0 - September 9, 00:00 GMT+0 Stage 3: September 9, 00:00 GMT+0 - September 20, 00:00 GMT+0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Two very fine submissions for a start. GTX 770 GTX 980 ti. Ahaha. IGP, yeah cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Delete the submissions without IGP and inform members about the rules. NO VGA CARD ALLOWED. ONLY IGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 wallpapers are those for the benchmark 2D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted August 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yes, same wallpapers, as there are no new ones and comp already started Important info for contestants IGP means the integrated graphics unit of the cpu - you are not allowed to use a discrete vga like some have for the start Link for definition of different vga types here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 There is no wallpaper for stage 1 (2d or 3d) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Wallpapers now available. I've also disabled submission with non-IGP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvidiaforever2 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted August 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) After a question about Broadwell, it is not allowed and rules will be clarified, on HWMonitor - launch only after benchmark is enough, idle temps will be lower than load anyway, at least I accepted this for 2D and will not change for 3D P.S. please do not forget CPUZ spd tab and make sure it displays info - I had to remove some scores from 2d battle because of this and I am not happy about it, the contestants lost their results due to sloppy rule reading Edited August 21, 2015 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Invalid submissions still not deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 which intel driver can be used? 3dmark not recognize the latest drivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 the temperature of the integrated graphics you have to see (gpuz max temperature) or just HWMonitor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted August 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2015 HWMonitor is enough, GPU is in cpu - on the driver, try several different ones, sorry, on this I cannot help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Raule009, Native Intel drivers for IGP are not recognized by 3DMark, whatever the version of the drivers. Unfortunately, there is no solution to that. FutureMark replied to a personal question I sent them. " We never thought that someone would run our benchmarks with IGP. We do not have a solution". So, whatever suits you best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Folks, it seems ( for the moment ) that only Raule can bench with IGP. It is like a car race, where you finish first while running alone. LMAO !!! Oh my, I love those competitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Raule009, Native Intel drivers for IGP are not recognized by 3DMark, whatever the version of the drivers. Unfortunately, there is no solution to that. FutureMark replied to a personal question I sent them. " We never thought that someone would run our benchmarks with IGP. We do not have a solution". So, whatever suits you best. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Folks, it seems ( for the moment ) that only Raule can bench with IGP.It is like a car race, where you finish first while running alone. LMAO !!! Oh my, I love those competitions. other competitors are waiting until the last minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest george.kokovinis Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 other competitors are waiting until the last minute I most sincerely hope so man. I will not bench anymore in this competition, although I know VERY WELL how to make IGP "fly" ( way of speaking "fly" ). In my humble opinion it was not the best choice for 3D to compete with IGP. I had noted that. Organizers of the competition, should reconsider for the future. In 2D we can use any board from MSI, any processor from Intel. You know very well that the best combination in 2D was : 1) XTU - Good ( 5ghz ) 5930K 2) HWbotprime - Good ( 5.1-5.2ghz ) G3258 3) Geekbench - Very good ( 5.2+ghz ) 4790K These require also two boards. Z97 Mpower X99A Xpower or Gaming 9 Cost is in excess of 1800$. And the cost was the problem in 3D. When ALL Intel processors are allowed in 2D ( correct ), what is the change of spirit in 3D. No drivers, no utilities in windows for overclocking. So it is actually a motherboard competition and a processor completion, since IGP is integrated in the cpu. Get in windows and you are lost. The guy I talked to in FutureMark, raised an eyebrow when I asked how to bench Firestrike with IGP. Anyway, even the best are humans, but they must learn from incorrect decisions. :celebration: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xobonesox Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm trying my best to learn on how to improve IGP preformance don't really have any knowledge other then what most electronic stores will tell you about IGP vs dedicated GPUs to get you to spend more if you don't know anything about computers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I'm trying my best to learn on how to improve IGP preformance don't really have any knowledge other then what most electronic stores will tell you about IGP vs dedicated GPUs to get you to spend more if you don't know anything about computers I'm no IGP expert, but I might have some advice for you IGP tuning is actually pretty straightforward, maximise its IGP clock, and memory performance matters a LOT(especially in AMD's IGP). 1) For Intel's IGP solution, for example HD 4600 found in i7 Haswell, the frequency of the IGP is found on the 'GT Ratio' on MSI's motherboard, this is a 'multiplier', and you get IGP Frequency from this formula: IGP Frequency = GT Ratio * (BCLK/2) So basically on 100Mhz BCLK, every 1 GT ratio increase will give you 50Mhz more IGP Frequency. The one voltage that's responsible for the IGP is the GT Voltage (IGP Volt or Vaxg in some mobo). You can really push the IGP volts, 1.35-1.4V is quite safe for this and will give around 1550-1600Mhz IGP frequency or more. Got a better cooling and you can crank this up 2)After finding your maximum GT ratio for 3D benchmarks, time to maximise performance from your memory system, if you can do 2800CL9 with typical samsung timings you'll do fine. IGP OC tend to favor more on frequency instead of timings on most cases 3)Lastly, when your IGP GT Ratio and Memory Frequency is maxxed out, time to do some fine tuning with BCLK. Increase 1 - 2 Mhz here will give you that extra 15-20 Mhz you'll probably need for competition purposes. Oh, and if you're on ambient cooling, sometimes reducing CPU OC can gain just a little bit of IGP frequency. If your benchmark doesn't require high CPU scores, you might try lowering your cpu oc & cpu volts a bit to gain IGP frequency. (useful for GPU-bound scenarios,like 3DMark Fire Strike on HD4600 .But on 3DMark Cloud Gate CPU speed is still needed) Well, hope that helped. Good Luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanCupa Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 After a question about Broadwell, it is not allowed and rules will be clarified, So, Broadwell is not allowed? Great! Because, it is not available in Indonesia. T_T I'm waiting for the updated rules page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted August 24, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2015 No, Broadwell is out, and Pieter will get the job done soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xobonesox Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm no IGP expert, but I might have some advice for you IGP tuning is actually pretty straightforward, maximise its IGP clock, and memory performance matters a LOT(especially in AMD's IGP). 1) For Intel's IGP solution, for example HD 4600 found in i7 Haswell, the frequency of the IGP is found on the 'GT Ratio' on MSI's motherboard, this is a 'multiplier', and you get IGP Frequency from this formula: IGP Frequency = GT Ratio * (BCLK/2) So basically on 100Mhz BCLK, every 1 GT ratio increase will give you 50Mhz more IGP Frequency. The one voltage that's responsible for the IGP is the GT Voltage (IGP Volt or Vaxg in some mobo). You can really push the IGP volts, 1.35-1.4V is quite safe for this and will give around 1550-1600Mhz IGP frequency or more. Got a better cooling and you can crank this up 2)After finding your maximum GT ratio for 3D benchmarks, time to maximise performance from your memory system, if you can do 2800CL9 with typical samsung timings you'll do fine. IGP OC tend to favor more on frequency instead of timings on most cases 3)Lastly, when your IGP GT Ratio and Memory Frequency is maxxed out, time to do some fine tuning with BCLK. Increase 1 - 2 Mhz here will give you that extra 15-20 Mhz you'll probably need for competition purposes. Oh, and if you're on ambient cooling, sometimes reducing CPU OC can gain just a little bit of IGP frequency. If your benchmark doesn't require high CPU scores, you might try lowering your cpu oc & cpu volts a bit to gain IGP frequency. (useful for GPU-bound scenarios,like 3DMark Fire Strike on HD4600 .But on 3DMark Cloud Gate CPU speed is still needed) Well, hope that helped. Good Luck helped me a lot man thanks for the tips already improved my scores by just about 100pts! wish i had some helpful stuff to tell you but i'm sure you know more than me about OCing haha and just want to be safe... now that i'm using the CPU for a GPU too what temps do i have to worry about? because i know most people say stay away from 70c+ when OC a CPU but what about IGP and CPU together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raules009 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 i7 4790k imc has degraded .... motherboard z97m max power is broken, the Laing DDC pump 12V 1plusT broke. luckily the cpu is still alive but I can not do in 2800 CL9 with the other motherboard I (Z97 gene asus) I have another i7 4790k but not very lucky . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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