havli Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Updated package with CPU-Z 1.89.1 and newer version of bundled Java is now available. http://hw-museum.cz/data/hwbot/HWBOT_X265_2.2_cpu-z_1.89.1.zip The benchmark itself remains exactly the same, no changes from version 2.2. The new Java might help in some rare cases of application crash when saving the data file. CPU-Z 1.89.1 improves HW detection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbjaust Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 cant hwbot host this? 40KB/s is pretty slow going for a 500GB file! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddMutt Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I would normally be okay with what is voted by the community. I have a problem with x265 2.2 in scoring. This my be classified as a BUG or a CHEAT it's all how you wish to look at it We have the x265 4K 2.2 in this years TC - 2019. I pulled out my "OLD i3-6320" to compete in the Dual Core section. I noticed that SWEET - (I've talked to and also looked at other scores) using the same Motherboard and CPU combo - BEAT - -> Destroyed <- my x265 submission. I had over 1.3GHz higher CPU&IMC speed but he scored 2x better than me??? https://hwbot.org/submission/3955708_maddmutt_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_core_i3_6320_8.845_fps Is this problem reproducible YES... Here are screen shots of the the x265 1080p and 4K results. I do not have my system overclocked but running at BIOS default. Is this limited to only this CPU, CPU/MB combo, Software, Ect, Ect??? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 14, 2019 Crew Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Quote special non K bios being used? AVX coding goes down the drain over a certain Bclock (102.8ish) Perfectly could explain why your OCed submission scores way lower than the top scores (at way lower MHz) Edited September 14, 2019 by Leeghoofd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Not to mention, Alex is about a thousand times better bencher than you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: special non K bios being used? AVX coding goes down the drain over a certain Bclock (102.8ish) Perfectly could explain why your OCed submission scores way lower than the top scores (at way lower MHz) What he said ^. Bclk bouncing at/ over 103 will break it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 When using Overkill does anyone else see the top or bottom progress bar run away from the other? I've played with a bunch of different things and it feels like it's a Windows 10 scheduler bug. Or is that normal behavior? I've only seen one person bench it on YouTube and I myself only have about a day of experience playing with the benchmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Seen it before. No idea what causes it. I know overkill likes a lot of memory though, if that helps you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jab383 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 I see that big difference between the overkill bars when priority is above NORMAL - in either Win 7 or Win 10. Try all the priorities and take a peak in task manager during the run to see what actual priority is being used for the workload processes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jab383 said: I see that big difference between the overkill bars when priority is above NORMAL - in either Win 7 or Win 10. Try all the priorities and take a peak in task manager during the run to see what actual priority is being used for the workload processes. I've played with all the priorities too, but that alone didn't cure it for me. I did see favorable results combining that while playing with other Windows power plans though. What program is it in Task Manager? Is it Javaw? Edited August 23, 2020 by nickname2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, nickname2019 said: I've played with all the priorities too, but that alone didn't cure it for me. I did see favorable results combining that while playing with other Windows power plans though. What program is it in Task Manager? Is it Javaw? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mr.Scott said: Yes That stays Normal when I change priority in the bench, but messing with that Javaw priority didn't yield different results. Edited August 23, 2020 by nickname2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Javaw.exe is just the benchmark GUI, this one should be left as it is. It has no effect on the performance. When you launch the benchmark run with overkill enabled, then 2 or more instances of the x265 encoder will show up in the device manager and these should have the selected priority set. When running overkill with high(er) priority, the Windows scheduller might assing more system resources to one instance and less to the other - which results in one instance running faster and the other slower. If the score varies too much, then final score won't be valid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, havli said: -snip- When running overkill with high(er) priority, the Windows scheduller might assing more system resources to one instance and less to the other - which results in one instance running faster and the other slower. If the score varies too much, then final score won't be valid. Is there anything that can be done about the scheduler assigning more resources to one instance over the other? Or is that by design? In my experiences the gap between the two is usually 40% ~ 45%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Perhaps some Windows tweaks, but that is just a wild guess. I never liked tweaking OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Try playing with pagefile, no pagefile, try playing background service priority and different win32priorityseparation values in the registry, try the new 20** build of windows 10 or depending on your hardware windows 8 or server 2012. Sometimes it is what it is and fails due to variance. Run it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragmeister Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I had issues with this today, tried many diff mem timings and mem speed but the only thing that solved it for me was to lower the cpu speed by 100 MHz, ymmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 7:32 PM, Splave said: Try playing with pagefile, no pagefile, try playing background service priority and different win32priorityseparation values in the registry, try the new 20** build of windows 10 or depending on your hardware windows 8 or server 2012. Sometimes it is what it is and fails due to variance. Run it again. Ooh, I read your write up over at Tom's and am eager to try dual rank my next go around. And will give your above suggestions a try too. Many thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_name Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 2:25 PM, havli said: Perhaps some Windows tweaks, but that is just a wild guess. I never liked tweaking OS. Roger that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrormax Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 should add support for more than 64cores/128threads if possible capped at 64 when overkill is an option is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 There is no artificial limit to cores/threads. Perhaps the encoder doesn't scale with so many cores.... it is 4 years old after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted November 21, 2020 Crew Share Posted November 21, 2020 Version 2.3 will be finally implemented early 2021 Havli due to the imposed HPET. Finally the Bot will be getting somewhere! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 guys, any tip why I can not on fresh OS (Win10) run this benchamrk? I got only first screen and still loading...and program is not fully opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted March 29, 2021 Crew Share Posted March 29, 2021 Did you use maxmem ? blocked by win smartscreen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeph8n Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 W11. W790. Enabled hpet and system is crawling trying to open and run this benchmark. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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