Guest Bullant Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 A question not specifically related to this board but to the Z170 chip set, did anyone one you guys notice that the RAM is asking for more Vdimm for a set profile vs X99. For Example, 3000C11 needing 1.65V on X99 & 1.7V on Z170. Is this only happening to me or universal. ? Hey,my memory is little different in volts scaling for those two platforms on cold memory's ,x99 memory scaled to 1.82v say and on z170 it's 1.7v for same memory's,not sure if it's my memory's or platform,imc .Have you got another CPU or three you can try to see if it's any different between the imcs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hey,my memory is little different in volts scaling for those two platforms on cold memory's ,x99 memory scaled to 1.82v say and on z170 it's 1.7v for same memory's,not sure if it's my memory's or platform,imc .Have you got another CPU or three you can try to see if it's any different between the imcs ? Had 2 CPUs, but sold the other one. On air it appears that I can push more voltage on Z170. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yeah think I can push more on air too ,just little different for me on cold memory's,pretty much air vs cold memory's is same volts ahah,will test some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I can push upto 1.9 Vdimm on air, but only get till 3100C11. I have very bad RAM. Edited September 11, 2015 by rtsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerotracks Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I can push upto 1.9 Vdimm on air, but only get till 3100C11. I have retail RAM. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Just posting to say thanks in advance for this thread. Should another epic one featuring the Teachings of Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I got to play with the OC Formula and it is a solid board for sure.Quick testing 4-dimm MFR kit from x99 could perform easy 3200 C12 tight or 3333 C13,also samsung 3733 15-18-18 or 3866 16-19-19 was a breeze with a r retail G.skill X99 3000 15-15-15 kit. I might add that the volts needed on x99 are the same like Z170 so i guess it is off to little bit of tuning to get the results to x99 and ofc higher. Edited September 13, 2015 by Alex@ro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Its a nice board alex Went to try some XTU today as im still waiting on some new paste,thought I just test the delid with some cheap paste"Ceramique2",So I tested the 5Ghz xtu @ 1.5v"splaves volt delid test" @ -90 and looks like the cheap paste didn't hold up 86c ahahah Just the one quick run @ 5Ghz ,with some Kingston mems, Hynix MFR -3739 @ -100 1.67v I'm gaining about 600Mhz of memory freq from air to cold mems @ same volts, Hynix Mfr are scaling quite nice on cold Edited September 13, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Your eff is way off man,maybe you need a reinstall of win ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Is all you really need to do for hynix cold is to add cold and scale frequency?jeez I need to get some more LET and sacrifice some mobos to the LN2 gods staying under 1.52v helps for 5.3ghz this was 1.506v max on dmm http://hwbot.org/submission/2976507_random_xtu_core_i7_6700k_1218_marks?recalculate=true You should take your time to work board and air out before trying cold memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Not sure why your adding more vcccio volts as I said before nicks auto values are fine,your dram volts are also way to high,you need to start low 1.62v and you mite find "your" memory will pass 3200 cl11 @ 1.67v or lower,to many people make the mistake of overvolting memory,all memory ,Hynix ,psc ,bbse,Samsung good bad memory ,air cold memory has its limit,if you slow things down and do in steps your memory will tell you when it's enough You have to understand memory can train easier at lower volts on these z97-z170 platforms Edited September 14, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 random check the thread over at XS OCF thread,is some useful stuff over there,it's always good idea to break Overclocking down I feel,so just leave CPU at say 4ghz and work on memory only clocking,then work on CPU only clocking find there limits and what makes them work.Once you've done this then running the two together is much easier,quite often trying to do both to the extreme can affect overall,so imo work on one at a time and the two will be lot easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I used 4.8 preset to save time and I guess that was a bad idea... no idea whats in there but... this is 4.7 @ 1.2v 4.5cache c16 3333 xmp http://hwbot.org/submission/2976992_random_xtu_core_i7_6700k_1475_marks?recalculate=true Are you using ln2? Cause your saying your using the ln2 profile ? That has the pll volts set higher that is only for ln2 usage,it will cause some heat if you CPU isn't cold enough Edited September 14, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) thanks I will check out XS Im on single stage, i made some improvements maybe but kot as good as what i had before bios change. Well.. individually wow... 5.1ghz at 1.4v and 4.8 cache passed xtu 5ghz at 1.36v was a rush. Edited September 14, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 thanks I will check out XS I told you 4 days ago that your couple volts settings was to high,I don't really like helping people that when I tell them what to do and then they say they got it from somewhere els,as I said I think you should get your info on XS thread.Is pretty much why I only like to post results and not say to much.I did see your last post before you edited it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I am an idiot, but I will elaborate You didnt say any specific voltages, autos didnt help me, and i saw specific voltages (1.2v) on xs last night. Thanks for your help though. Sorry... I deleted all my r e t a r d e d posts so.. sorry. Edited September 14, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I am an idiot, but I will elaborate You didnt say any specific voltages, autos didnt help me, and i saw specific voltages (1.2v) on xs last night. Thanks for your help though. Sorry... I deleted all my r e t a r d e d posts so.. sorry. On auto they run 1.2v and 1.25v and I did say i dropped one down,I too run both at 1.2v,dropping the 1.25v to 1.2v gave me stability,they both run fine at auto as well,if you have any more problems just post in XS thread and im sure they will help you Im not calling you a idiot,you just need to take your time and learn the platform,I have pointed out things about volts and stuff 'overvolting"Ive said all I want to say about this and you are welcome to post some results if you like Edited September 14, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Quick test tonight with really nice Kingston 3466 AFR,all really tight subs, rtls 47-48 4-5 iols think few things may have been little to tight for xtu ,1.74v only tested to -120 so far,will take couple session to work these memory's settings out,trfc will run at 278 as well Memory seem to train very nice with board, on air and cold memory's and respond really well to to cold as does MFR Will run some 32M over the next coming days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Couple more test with Kingston's 3466 AFR Memory's and Asrocks Z170 OCF Cl10 -15-15-28-278 3735Mhz -44-45 rtls 8M pass and 8 loops of 32m,will keep pushing.... Some xtu efficiency 5ghz with a 17 point improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Bullant Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Asrock Z170 and Kingston AFR Memorys @ 3945 cl11-15-15 not 32m pass yet,will keep trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Here are some of my tests on Z170 OCF: 3200 12-15-15-28-1 @ 1.58V [ATTACH]3307[/ATTACH] 3470 14-16-16-28-1 @ 1.47V [ATTACH]3308[/ATTACH] 3470 13-16-16-28-1 @ 1.47V [ATTACH]3309[/ATTACH] It's my first interaction with ASRock OC Formula, but I can say I love it! Great job Nick Shih! Edited September 20, 2015 by Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Good start man,just notice your using 6600k Edited September 20, 2015 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Thank you. Unfortunately it stops here, as I have to return the board today (it's a review sample). But it's an amazing motherboard! Edited September 21, 2015 by Bruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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