aerotracks Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I got my hands on the M5 board. It does quite well considering it only announces DDR4-3600 on the box Some first results I made with E-Die, only rough touches on 3rds XTU with loose RTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I'll try again. maybe with a different bios. since this is obviously hynix bias actually a little harder on mfr than 1st hot bios but I guess it makes sense with non broken timings I need to get some benching drives in order. my windows keys or ISOs are messed up Edited December 13, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'll try again. maybe with a different bios. since this is obviously hynix biasactually a little harder on mfr than 1st hot bios but I guess it makes sense with non broken timings I need to get some benching drives in order. my windows keys or ISOs are messed up The tCWL/tWRRD_sg/tWRRD_dg issue was affecting all ICs, not only Hynix. However, it only happened from 3733x101.81 (3800) and above, under this it was perfectly fine so you couldn't encounter this on MFR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) hmm... I wonder why my on-the-fly c12 3100 @ 1.5, is reduced to 3000 with v2 then.... I just figured that the broken twcl made it loose enough to work at 3100 or 3200 on v1... wierd maybe I tuned the wrong preset... well I guess I will just try hot v2 bios for ambient e-die binning Still some issues but its coming along much better C12-20. 4000mhz is working now Seems left slots suck for single stick binning on this board as well. I know its like that on asrock but as soon as i popped stick into dimm c it started going much better. http://imgur.com/l2a1U3O 1.95v Edited December 13, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 hmm... I wonder why my on-the-fly c12 3100 @ 1.5, is reduced to 3000 with v2 then.... I just figured that the broken twcl made it loose enough to work at 3100 or 3200 on v1... wierdmaybe I tuned the wrong preset... well I guess I will just try hot v2 bios for ambient e-die binning Still some issues but its coming along much better C12-20. 4000mhz is working now Seems left slots suck for single stick binning on this board as well. I know its like that on asrock but as soon as i popped stick into dimm c it started going much better. http://imgur.com/l2a1U3O 1.95v What kind of issues? If you never report we can never fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 just really bad rtl d1 and times are kinda slow probably me though.. this was a miracle http://imgur.com/KQEC3pD (1.85v) http://imgur.com/0rcdetJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 just really bad rtl d1 and times are kinda slow probably me though.. this was a miracle http://imgur.com/KQEC3pD (1.85v) http://imgur.com/0rcdetJ Why are you running single channel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) binning a good dual channel. when I tried to plug in my other stick I was binning to match I ended up getting bad problems even single slot its failing a few loops in only other real problem is auto vccio and vccsa go to 1.35 or 1.3v which I am pretty sure is super high http://imgur.com/R7siQtD my c19 4266 stick doesn't like this board forsome reason.. Edited December 13, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 New BIOS coming soon guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 NON-K OC Test BIOS updated in first page :celebration: 1. BIOS is M-flash ready. 2. EIST, C-State and Turbo Boost feature are all DISABLED in this BIOS. 3. When doing BCLK OC with non-K CPU, CPU ratio can only go up to maximum CPU ratio (non-Turbo Boost ratio) and you can’t downgrade CPU ratio. 4. Please adjust CPU Vcore voltage manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Awesome work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barti27 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 msi bios for Z170 gaming M7 will also be a non-k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Any problems going over 120? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 14, 2015 Crew Share Posted December 14, 2015 Any problems going over 120? 120 is a Pepi limitation, not the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) msi bios for Z170 gaming M7 will also be a non-k Yes, at a later date. Only models with external clockgen can support it though, which means Z170A GAMING G45/M5/M7/M9/XPOWER. Any problems going over 120? Not at all. 120 is a Pepi limitation, not the board More like R&D didn't bother to try much higher and I don't have any locked CPU around to try myself [emoji14] Edited December 15, 2015 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Just for Martin and Albrecht, only locked CPU I could find in my department, first try. 1,45v BIOS on CPU and safe timings on G.Skill Trident Z 3866, all aircooled, nothing complicated. Edited December 15, 2015 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wzrd Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 How about H110 and B150 motherboard? Z170 are very expensive and not that interesting for o\c Pentium\Core i3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) How about H110 and B150 motherboard? Z170 are very expensive and not that interesting for o\c Pentium\Core i3. As far as I know NON-K CPU OC support on MSI motherboards is limited to the models I mentioned in the post above, for technical reasons explained above. Edited December 15, 2015 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) binning a good dual channel. when I tried to plug in my other stick I was binning to match I ended up getting bad problemseven single slot its failing a few loops in only other real problem is auto vccio and vccsa go to 1.35 or 1.3v which I am pretty sure is super high http://imgur.com/R7siQtD my c19 4266 stick doesn't like this board forsome reason.. It's not a problem, it's for compatibility and still within Intel specs. Above 3733 many CPUs need that much, if yours need less then just adjust it manualy. 4266 XMP is not supported and probably never be. As far as I know this kit is only supported by ASROCK Z170 OCF and mini ITX boards due to PCB trace layout. All other boards regardless of manufacturer stop at G.Skill 3866/Corsair 4000. However, note that I didn't say you couldn't reach 4266 OC, Toppc actually did 4600 dual channel validation on XPOWER. Edited January 4, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I see. Wasnt talking about xmp sadly. On my ocf i was doing c12 4000@ 1.84v now i cant get it to pass at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepinorang Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) I see. Wasnt talking about xmp sadly. On my ocf i was doing c12 4000@ 1.84v now i cant get it to pass at all @BenchBros did this some time ago, before tCWL/tWRRD_sg/tWRRD_dg were fixed... As far as I know its also ok with HOT v2. Just got some long awaited E-Die (G.Skill Trident Z 3866), I will give it a try as well, but not before next year, it's vacation time now. Edited January 4, 2016 by pepinorang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBros Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Yes, same settings are now OK with tWCL 11 and tWRRD 22-22-6-6 (or smiliar, can't remember exactly) in HOT v2 BIOS. XTU Score was 1593 or sth like that Have no screen on hand, its on my flash drive at home... Edited December 16, 2015 by BenchBros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Can you go tighter that or whats up? Not even 21 or twcl 10? Anyone use this board for b-die? I just got my hands on a stick and want to test it Edited December 16, 2015 by Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savumi Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) NON-K OC Test BIOS updated in first page :celebration: 1. BIOS is M-flash ready. 2. EIST, C-State and Turbo Boost feature are all DISABLED in this BIOS. 3. When doing BCLK OC with non-K CPU, CPU ratio can only go up to maximum CPU ratio (non-Turbo Boost ratio) and you can’t downgrade CPU ratio. 4. Please adjust CPU Vcore voltage manually. I just update bios and test non-k bios, but my board cant boot when adjust base clock. Boot loop and screen show text: reset default setting System: - Z170A Xpower - CPU i7 6700 - Ram Ripjaws-X 4GB 2133 - VGA GT 630 Setting: - Bios 1.44 non-k oc, flash by M-Flash. - EIST, C-State, Turbo Boost all DISABLED - CPU Ratio: 34 or Auto - Ring Ratio: 34 - Base clock: 120, 105.... - Core Voltage: 1.3, 1.2, 1.25v ... - Memory Voltage: Auto or 1.35v Do you have any suggest for me ? Edited December 17, 2015 by savumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savumi Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Ahh, im re-flash bios 1.4T all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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