Lucky_n00b Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Question: Stage 2 - Fire Strike IGP: use 5 different integrated GPUs, each using a different CPU socket. The ranking is based on the average of the five results. There are 40 points for the winning country FM2 and FM2+ counted as different socket? Stage 3 - Geekbench3 Single Core: use 5 different memory types in the Geekbench3 single core benchmark. The ranking is based on the average score. There are 40 points for the winning country DDR3L & DDR3 counted as different types? Stage 5 - GPUPI 32B Full Out: this stage requires 1 score and allows full out hardware selection. There are 30 points for the winning country Server/workstation components allowed? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I mean, it's not restricted to Intel IGP ? You can use any IGP, the brand doesn't matter. Question: - FM2 and FM2+ counted as different socket? - DDR3L & DDR3 counted as different types? - Server/workstation components allowed? - FM2 and FM2+ are different sockets. - DDR3L and DDR3 both fall under the DDR3 category - Anything you think may work best in the full out stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Oh, and one more just to make sure: All components have to be retail and not ES? Or ES allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Propose change of team name from Australia OC to KangarooKlanOC Also, Titan cards, are we placing these in 7 and 9 series or are they their own? And are there any ruling on i3 6320 CPU being restricted due to availability? Edited October 21, 2015 by zeropluszero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Titan card is an interesting one, I suppose they have to be classed under the generation they were released with. I.e. original titan with 600 and latest with 900 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I dont know if it comes under "series" ie, Titan X under 9 series as per http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocards#key=nvidia_geforce_900_series Titan / Titan BE http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocards#key=nvidia_geforce_600_series_ Thats how I suspect it is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 More questions about NV: - how about Quadro vs Geforce from the same generation? - 9800 is considered different family from 8800? - 7800 and 7900 are considered the same family? G70 and G71 are quite different from each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBros Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Any ES Hardware allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Just to be sure - only one score per person counts for each stage, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBreeze Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Correct Lanbonden: GTX 770 -> GeForce 700 series GTX 680 -> GeForce 600 series So if it's by numbered families then the 10 most recent are: 900 (and Titan X), 800M, 700 (and Titan), 600, 500, 400, 300M, 200, 9000 and 8000, right? I'm assuming the mobile GPUs are allowed since it doesn't say otherwise. But high-end 7000 would likely trump 300M anyway, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 So if it's by numbered families then the 10 most recent are: 900 (and Titan X), 800M, 700 (and Titan), 600, 500, 400, 300M, 200, 9000 and 8000, right? I'm assuming the mobile GPUs are allowed since it doesn't say otherwise. But high-end 7000 would likely trump 300M anyway, wouldn't it? Stage 1 - 3DMark06 Nvidia HWpts: use 10 different single GPU Nvidia graphics cards, each from a different family. The ranking is based on the sum of the hardware points of the ten results. There are 50 points for the winning country So performance does not mater, you just need a hige ranked score with a popular card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Stage 1 - 3DMark06 Nvidia HWpts: use 10 different single GPU Nvidia graphics cards, each from a different family. The ranking is based on the sum of the hardware points of the ten results. There are 50 points for the winning country So performance does not mater, you just need a hige ranked score with a popular card. Everyone will be using the same cards so I would think performance would matter, the first part will be getting all 10 subs, when each person is only allowed one per stage. EDIT: To make it about a relevant stage... How does the scoring work exactly? Is the average score over all your subs, so a country that only subs one score (say 8 core in the Geekbench stage) won't be bogged down by the other scores and will win by not submitting anything else. Or will a country that submits 5 scores be ranked higher than a country that submits 4 scores no matter what the average is? Or is your total score divided by 5?. Edited October 21, 2015 by Rasparthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Everyone will be using the same cards so I would think performance would matter, the first part will be getting all 10 subs, when each person is only allowed one per stage. How does the scoring work exactly? Is the average score over all your subs, so a country that only subs one score (say 900 series) won't be bogged down by the other scores and will win by not submitting anything else. Or will a country that submits 10 scores be ranked higher than a country that submits 9 scores no matter what the average is? Or is your total score divided by 10? I cant find anything that says only one score per person? And its based on the total HW score from a maxium of 10 submisions, so a team with one score of 50 HW points will get 50 points, a team with 5 submissions for an average of 20 points will get 100points in total and a team with 10 submissions with 16 points in average with get 160 points in total. This meens that you dont have to score in all rounds but it ofc helps. And it also meens that a good score giving 50 points with for example a gtx580 is more worth then winning a pokal with a geforce4 for 10HW points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.paco Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Not sure if this has been asked and answered; sorry. In the case where there are not many country benchers, can ONE bencher submit for all stages? Example: Stage-1. Can I submit for each of the 10 different gpu's? Or must it be a different member for each different card? I know Puerto Rico has no chance in hell to finish in the top spots because I am always the only one from PR entering, but at least a fighting chance would be better than no chance. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think it works that way. This is just how I'm reading it but I read it this way. Its not the best Nvidia cards for each stage, but the most hardware points. So it doesn't matter if you use the very best cards, only the popularity of the card matters. I'm assuming if you use a FX5200 and take top spot you'll get 7.8 hardware points. That 7.8 gets added to all the other scores your country supplies. The highest total will receive the 50 points for 1st place. But perhaps I'm reading it wrong as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I don't think it works that way. This is just how I'm reading it but I read it this way. Its not the best Nvidia cards for each stage, but the most hardware points. So it doesn't matter if you use the very best cards, only the popularity of the card matters. I'm assuming if you use a FX5200 and take top spot you'll get 7.8 hardware points. That 7.8 gets added to all the other scores your country supplies. The highest total will receive the 50 points for 1st place. But perhaps I'm reading it wrong as well. Thats just what I tried to say, problem is to many things called points. Rewriting it slightly even tho I think we meen the same thing. And its based on the total HW score from a maxium of 10 submisions, so a team with only one score of 50 HW points will get 50 total HW points, a team with 5 submissions for an average of 20 HW points will get 100 HW points in total and a team with 10 submissions with 16 HW points in average will get 160 HW points in total. So the team with 160HW points gets 50 competition points and wins stage1. The team with 100HW points gets maybe 35 competition points and the team with 50HW points gets maybe 25 competition points for this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I believe that is how it works, yes. But I don't think they are averaging your scores for that stage at all. Whatever your HW points are, they are totaled and thats your score, no averaging. The top total will receive the 50 competition points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) I believe that is how it works, yes. But I don't think they are averaging your scores for that stage at all. Whatever your HW points are, they are totaled and thats your score, no averaging. The top total will receive the 50 competition points. Exactly we agree then Just said an average of 20 HW points as it was easier to write then 30+25+17+22+6 which is the same as 5x20 = 100 points Edited October 21, 2015 by lanbonden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The top total will receive the 50 competition points. I also understood it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBreeze Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Got it, so it really doesn't matter which generation, just how many HW points you get. Makes sense now. The last few years Country Cup has been that each person can only contribute once per stage, I'm assuming it will be the same this year but we should get clarification to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Got it, so it really doesn't matter which generation, just how many HW points you get. Makes sense now. The last few years Country Cup has been that each person can only contribute once per stage, I'm assuming it will be the same this year but we should get clarification to that effect. Right, the generation only matters for cards allowed. Your country can't get HW points for a 970 and a 980 Ti, only the score worth more Hardware Points will be used, which could be the 970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1024 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The last few years Country Cup has been that each person can only contribute once per stage, I'm assuming it will be the same this year but we should get clarification to that effect. It is very important for small countries and as result small person Teams. It is not good idea that one person can submit score once. It will make to bench for one person some results and give it's own results to other person in Team, it's now good way I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Not sure if this has been asked and answered; sorry. In the case where there are not many country benchers, can ONE bencher submit for all stages? Example: Stage-1. Can I submit for each of the 10 different gpu's? Or must it be a different member for each different card? I know Puerto Rico has no chance in hell to finish in the top spots because I am always the only one from PR entering, but at least a fighting chance would be better than no chance. Thank you I dont see any reason why , hwbot should not let , a one man army , to represent his country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 - DDR3L and DDR3 both fall under the DDR3 category Just to make things clear. Memory categories are the following only ? DDR SD-RAM DDR2 SDRAM DDR3 SDRAM DDR4 SDRAM EDO RAM FB-DIMM DRAM FPM RAM RDRAM SDR SDRAM I dont want surprises ... so-dimm style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taloken Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 One person can submit once per stage, but can submit on all stages ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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