lnlcooling Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) This is really interesting, very nice engineering! Well thank you so much! We will be seeing a lot more very soon!! Edited November 16, 2015 by lnlcooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Pro-tip: a lot of high-profile hardware manufacturers are trying to connect (competitive) gaming with overclocking. To market your product to these groups, maybe focus your video on: 1) Running games are high image-quality 2) High overclocks Try to focus on showing that your cooling will give competitive gamers an edge in things like counter-strike or popular MOBAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmbot Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 This really is amazing. Something everyone has dreamed of having for XOC. Well done sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 Pro-tip: a lot of high-profile hardware manufacturers are trying to connect (competitive) gaming with overclocking. To market your product to these groups, maybe focus your video on: 1) Running games are high image-quality 2) High overclocks Try to focus on showing that your cooling will give competitive gamers an edge in things like counter-strike or popular MOBAs. That's awesome! If you could be more specific. Gotta remember, I am still stuck in the 90's with gaming. The Nintendo 64 was the last console I owned. That's just being nakedly honest. The high overclocks side we have taken care of as we have a pro ordering an OCC tomorrow. But I need to know where to start with "counter-strike" and MOBA's." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 This really is amazing. Something everyone has dreamed of having for XOC. Well done sir! Shucks Thanks! Can't wait to see the developments from the pros and novices! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 wow... see there are prices on the website.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 wow... see there are prices on the website.. I'm out :eek: I'll stick to old fashioned pouring... seems to work well enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanbonden Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Im suprised its not more expensive, I meen just think how many engineering hours they have already put into that thing and think about how many units they probably expect to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Really nice engineering there. Great work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'm out :eek: I'll stick to old fashioned pouring... seems to work well enough! Too rich for my blood id rather get a beast when its out. 2l to -180c? Yes please, thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm out :eek: I'll stick to old fashioned pouring... seems to work well enough! Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. There's some surprise news about to be broke out though. What if someone ends up breaking records? What if the control afforded by the investment wound up putting people in a whole new league? Remember on OC'ers they said it couldn't hold the fx... then... well that's not a question anymore. But what about the 5960x? I have one now brand new and dying to go cold... But someone else will be breaking the OCC out on the 5960x first. It's about to get a little more exciting . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Im suprised its not more expensive, I meen just think how many engineering hours they have already put into that thing and think about how many units they probably expect to sell Yeah a ton of hours. But even more belief that we can do it. Thanks for the props! We'll be trying to make them accessible to as many people as possible. What is not being missed though is the capability and quality. We've made some design changes and enlarged the chuck a little and we're just about ready to roll. So stay tuned as the curtain is about to go up on some sick revelations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Really nice engineering there. Great work Yeah! Thank you for the recognition! It's only getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/embed/7YZpW0h9z4o This is the latest video of the OCC-HC cooling the FX8350 maintaining temp at -180C. We'll be moving up to the 5960x in the next week or so. The OCC will be maintaining a set point between -130c and -140c (wherever we set it). That's the exciting thing about the OCC wherever the set point is, there the temp is maintained. No thinking or guessing about pouring, or even the need for multi-person teams to cool vs overclock. Not to mention being able to have the sickest, coldest driest gaming rig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Is the -180°C on the FX chip with the valves wide open or is it set to maintain that temperature? Can it go colder? Also, I noticed the 8350 is only set to 4 cores in the video. Can the OCC-HC hold temp when all cores are active? EDIT to clarify: When going for max clocks and running single-threaded benchmarks, we'll run on one or two modules/cores to allow for the highest possible frequency. When doing multi-thread benchmarks, usually are cores/modules are active. Edited December 10, 2015 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Is the -180°C on the FX chip with the valves wide open or is it set to maintain that temperature? Can it go colder? Also, I noticed the 8350 is only set to 4 cores in the video. Can the OCC-HC hold temp when all cores are active? EDIT to clarify: When going for max clocks and running single-threaded benchmarks, we'll run on one or two modules/cores to allow for the highest possible frequency. When doing multi-thread benchmarks, usually are cores/modules are active. The system is just regulating at -180C. This temp is from very close to the surface of the chip, but withing the wall of the chuck. So the actual surface in the mid-diameter of the chuck is likely lower. I have run the OCC a lot down at -186 t -190 on but I think at that point, the inner diameter of the chuck is closer to -196C -199C as the LN2 boiling slows considerably and there is less flow in the purge. (For the non-cryo-engineering: LN2 gets really calm as the temp drops down by -190C, whereas when the temp rises it begins boiling more and more furiously to the point of flashing - like what happens when you drip water into a frying pan, but at -80C rather than frying pan temps. So LN2 at -190C is literally calm, cool and collected!) It is set at four cores for the higher clock in the last vid. Could probably have gone higher clocks if I understood the correlation between voltages better. I was basically guessing and trying to get to 6.7 on 4 cores. Here is a little older vid of 8 cores at 5.7 ghz. The OCC holds it down fine. CPU-z shows clocks and cores at 1:3.. Fast forward to 4:23 to see the OCC running during benchmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Just completed a new build with new enclosure. Looking good! Thought we’d have a little fun with a heat gun! We did run the OCC on our new 5960x and the results were fantastic. Ran 5.3 ghz and there was no temp swing during benchmarks (seriously, it gained 1 degree). But our pro colleague who is getting the OCC next week wants to break with the news with his video of his sweetness-5960x and verified results. LN2 vs 1700 watt heat gun! Edited December 22, 2015 by lnlcooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just completed a new build with new enclosure. Looking good! Thought we’d have a little fun with a heat gun! We did run the OCC on our new 5960x and the results were fantastic. Ran 5.3 ghz and there was no temp swing during benchmarks (seriously, it gained 1 degree). But our pro colleague who is getting the OCC next week wants to break with the news with his video of his sweetness-5960x and verified results. LN2 vs 1700 watt heat gun! Curious to see who this mysterious pro colleague is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Here is a new informational video from LnL about the OCC and the Purge Case. We hired a legit voice-over guy for the narration . . .. Actually that's just me - no pro to it. Stay tuned though actual pro results are coming to an HWBOT near you soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Been running some benchmarks using the OCC. Results seem pretty fair. Is it normal to run a 5960x at -80C to -100C through multiple benchmarks at 5ghz with good stability? That's where I set it for the benchmarks I just submitted this evening. It seems like others are running benchmarks at lower temps (but maybe that's because of the temp swings of traditional LN2 cooling. When I ran the system at -128C at 5ghz it seemed less stable. Maybe something to do with the electrodynamics vs thermodynamics of the ultra cooled system in the purge case? I'm going to be posting some video of the OCC from set-up to benching in a few... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Did you ever list the batch for the 5960X? I would expect much higher clocks on LN2, even at these temperatures. Many can get 4.7-4.9 stable on air. So 140° colder should yield reasonably higher clocks. Most 5960X are capable of at least 5.4-5.5 fully stable. Generally, chips don't become unstable as the temperatures creep down, they just have a temperature point at which they stop functioning altogether. My only thought is that because you haven't insulated, some of the cold may be creeping towards the other IC's on the board that may have much higher cold bug temperatures and causing those to crash. Edited February 1, 2016 by xxbassplayerxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 5GHZ is achievable on cheap Single Stage coolers Maybe your TIM is bad or maybe there is not enough mass in the head? where are you measuring the temperatures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lnlcooling Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 5GHZ is achievable on cheap Single Stage coolers Maybe your TIM is bad or maybe there is not enough mass in the head? where are you measuring the temperatures? Right at the surface of the cooling head. The weird thing is at lower temps, the chip is less stable. Maybe a bad chip? I actually think the problem is something to do with my settings. I just got a reply on another thread that shows how to set the all of the voltages to static. Right now all the volts are on auto except vcore and cpu input. I'll bet that's the prob. The info I got is screenshots from bios on a 5830, but I'm willing to give the volts a try. The temps are definitely stable at whatever temp although the TIP could be an issue. I'm using arctic alumina. It seems more smeary than the past pastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Right at the surface of the cooling head. The weird thing is at lower temps, the chip is less stable. Maybe a bad chip? I actually think the problem is something to do with my settings. I just got a reply on another thread that shows how to set the all of the voltages to static. Right now all the volts are on auto except vcore and cpu input. I'll bet that's the prob. The info I got is screenshots from bios on a 5830, but I'm willing to give the volts a try. The temps are definitely stable at whatever temp although the TIP could be an issue. I'm using arctic alumina. It seems more smeary than the past pastes. Definitely need to tune the voltages manually as well as use better paste. You need to be using either Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or Gelid Extreme for paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 ^ yes also use Gen 1 or 2 PCIE and 127ish bclk helps to go colder. I think you need a bencher to help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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