Splave Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 The pink elephant in the room needs to be addressed. (Even if 99% of the people dont even know what it is) There are some nefarious tweaks in XTU that make it unfair to the layman bencher. Here is a 4770k on air for example. 10ghz why not? Same can be easily achieved on x99. And here is a step by step way to do it. 1. Download process lasso 2. Open 3. Disable Pro balance garbage File->Pro Balance 4. Next you are going to go to default process priorities 5. Type in p95-bench.exe and select realtime from the drop down and add to list 6. Loop XTU till you get a WR. You'll notice that the rotation above the XTU process bar will be glitchy fast then slow etc that's how you know its working. Also the Mhz will be super high but you can make them look more normal by under clocking or even using slow mode to get a nice round ln2 able figure. Better yet you dont need a screen shot so who cares if it says 10 GHZ, your validation file will work just fine. I can confirm working on z77/z87-z97/x79/x99 in my short testing of this "tweak" The ones that use this dont even feel shame for they arent doing anything that is classified as a hack, they arent touching files, they arent changing files, they arent even tricking the timer etc. And I wouldnt classify it as a bug as its reproducible easily. So I think XTU needs an overhaul....maybe now that some smart people know this tweak, they can figure out what causes this to work and help it to be closed. But if you were to ask me I feel all XTU results should loose points for now and if and when its fixed, start fresh with the newest version and require Screenshots as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted February 15, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) It was time to adress issues on XTU, but this will now bring on some fun It would be helpful if you can send pm perhaps to christian ney to confirm if new XTU versions are hit by this still Edited February 15, 2016 by websmile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacho_arroyo Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 OMG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 Pack Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) So many points on hwbot so dam easy. Good work big guy. Best reconfigure hwbot algorithm to accommodate this....junk bench most points .. I wonder why? Hey you try ragging the monitor out on the run for a boost? Edited February 15, 2016 by 8 Pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 As if XTU Wasnt bad enough already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 100% Not broken, thanks splave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX_OC Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Fix xtu, disable points for old subs, and restart with lower points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCry Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 100% broken this is my 2 core 4 thread m14......someone call for a 5960x? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted February 15, 2016 Administrators Share Posted February 15, 2016 Looks legit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 18ghz nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Maybe Intel should "fix" this instead of non-K OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Lol, wtf is this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 TThe ones that use this dont even feel shame for they arent doing anything that is classified as a hack, they arent touching files, they arent changing files, they arent even tricking the timer etc. And I wouldnt classify it as a bug as its reproducible easily. NAME AND SHAME BABY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 What's XTU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Wow, all those global and hardware points gone! Or maybe if there is enough complaining from top overclockers it will stay and use the honor system to govern it. Sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Wow, all those global and hardware points gone! Or maybe if there is enough complaining from top overclockers it will stay and use the honor system to govern it. Sounds great! Pardon me for laughing long and loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxbassplayerxx Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 What's XTU? It's this benchmark that Intel made that calculates your score based on your frequencies and then runs Prime 95 for a minute or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's this benchmark that Intel made that calculates your score based on your frequencies and then runs Prime 95 for a minute or so. You forgot in an effort to kill your nice CPU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraRaptor Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I demonstrated this "tweak" at AOOC qualifier to der8auer a year ago. Thought this was fixed(( http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=328647&postcount=73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I also tought it was fixed in the newer versions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 [joking mode on] At this point , i believe it's the perfect time to say , that XTU has given a lot to the overclocking community ... and it should be awarded with even more points , here at Hwbot. More points to XTU !!! Hip-hip Hurray ... [/joking mode on] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Some initial feedback on this topic. This issue was highlighted to the XTU development team on May 7, 2015. Our report was based on findings of user @henkenator68NL who provided us with the test data via @HiVizMan. Based on the findings, the XTU development team added a fix in v6.0.2.8 which prevents a user from changing the priority of the benchmark process or any other XTU related processes. This version was released in October 2015. Based on this thread we'll check if this issue is still present on the latest XTU release and if so, check with the XTU development team for more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatBoyNotSoSlim Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Oh man, I thought I was so smart when I found this out during CC. 62.55ghz, who can do better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 0.0 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I mentioned something similar in Apr 2015 http://forum.hwbot.org/showpost.php?p=369447&postcount=6 Never had the audacity to try and validate it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeropluszero Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 numa won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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