Splave Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 When will people realize that buying binned hw is the only way to guarantee that you wont get the best of something from a company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 User-binned, retail-binned or vendor-binned? Exception being RAM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 time to bin on your own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RULE Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What you exactly mean with this topic? Can't catch your point. Inviato dal mio SM-A300FU utilizzando Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) so say that I love apples and I have a lot of apples. why will i sell you my best apples when I can eat them myself and share them with my loved ones? I wouldnt! I will sell you the good to average apples since you wont buy the ones that are rotten that have already fallen off the tree. lets go deeper. So now my prized apples are taken to school by my children for lunch, and my wife to work for a snack. Everyone notices how great, large and juicy the apples I grow are. Now they want to know where to get these incredible apples. So they find my farm stand and come and buy the good/average apples that I sell feeling they are just slightly good enough to not complain but in the back of their heads they wonder why they dont quite look as good as what I have given to my loved ones to eat. #binnedapplesamples Edited August 15, 2016 by Splave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Oh! I did wonder if that's what you were getting at. Long-standing, unspoken rule of OC.... no-one sells their best parts unless the value is about to swandive. Everything I see in the FS section on here.... my default opinion is "that's a reject." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildzoid Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 The thing is sometimes you buy binned just to avoid the trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What you exactly mean with this topic? Can't catch your point. Inviato dal mio SM-A300FU utilizzando Tapatalk Galax binned b-die , 350$ for 2x8 binned 4000 12 12 12 wazza pass,sounds like a good deal lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RULE Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Galax binned b-die , 350$ for 2x8 binned 4000 12 12 12 wazza pass,sounds like a good deal lol Is not the same as Roman, Vince etc? They keep the best and sell the other for profit, but i think there's nothing wrong because is the very nature of binning. They don't bin for you, if you are smart enough can understand that and pick your free choise to buy. Also the Mad's mem in necesary con GOC qualifier, reason why i bought and i don't care about cherry picked 4133 mem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The thing is sometimes you buy binned just to avoid the trash. Agree. I spent my last years' saving mostly to buy 10 pcs i7-6700K just to get 1 that does 6.38 Hwbot Prime (but one bad 6.1 cpu apparently reached good IGP speed to help me reach top 3 gskill so that's lucky one), and a couple i3-6100 that doesn't even reach 5.8G. I don't mind binning, it's always part of the game, but with this kind of odds I'd be losing money really fast. So if somebody is selling me their "reject-but-it-look-like-its-binned-to-most-people" part with rather reasonable price, I'd take it. I love to have a cherry-picked parts, but sometimes if the price is too much, I'll settle with the 'good enough' ones, as long as I can do some decent benchmark out of it, and most importantly: have fun with that chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Is not the same as Roman, Vince etc? They keep the best and sell the other for profit, but i think there's nothing wrong because is the very nature of binning. They don't bin for you, if you are smart enough can understand that and pick your free choise to buy. Also the Mad's mem in necesary con GOC qualifier, reason why i bought and i don't care about cherry picked 4133 mem. That's why I am considering Xtreme Retirement and stay as massive binner who doesn't keep anything good for himself and sells out all the cherries Pretty much same way as Sam. He retired from HWBOT and still has XOC fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerotracks Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Why not change name to Mother Theresa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Why not change name to Mother Theresa? Cause I won't do that without a profit. I want fun + get back all the $ I invested in XOC during the years ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cause I won't do that without a profit. I want fun + get back all the $ I invested in XOC during the years ^^ queue the Mission Impossible theme song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Cause I won't do that without a profit. I want fun + get back all the $ I invested in XOC during the years ^^ Wanna bet that you can't live without it and make a big comeback in a year or two burning all the money you earn + some more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well I am not retiring yet, just considering and changing department to "binning" factory ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Personally, I don't think that there's anything wrong with buying binned hardware. Not everyone, especially married people haha, may have the time and money to invest in their own binning. Even being a somewhat avid binner myself, I sometimes had to resort to buying binned hardware from other people just because my personal achievements were too frustrating. I guess most people have done the same at some point. As for the expectations, you have to be pretty naive to assume that a specialised CPU binner or a RAM/VGA manufacturer would be willing to deliberately part with their best samples. After all, the main purpose of binning is finding the best clocking components and using them for own interests, be it just hwbot scores or manufacturer marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 "reject-but-it-look-like-its-binned-to-most-people" "potato" is still a bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGamingBarrel Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 "potato" is still a bin Time to sell my G.SKill Pi As "Binned" It only does 2400 Extra loose at 1.8V, But I actually checked, so they are binned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Im not saying binning is good or bad just know you will never have the best of something if you buy it from someone else that is sorting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Don't tell people stuff, you're taking all the fun out of it! Also.... you're bursting bubbles. Buzz Killington. If bencher X has really crappy luck in binning, or can only afford 1 of something (ie.... most of us) then buying binned is still coming out ahead. As long as they like the price and it does what the seller says it can do, everyone wins. It's a perfect situation in life, those are rare. Don't spoil it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalRacer Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 One mans trash is another mans treasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Im not saying binning is good or bad just know you will never have the best of something if you buy it from someone else that is sorting. Pretty sure everyone is aware of that. Some people don't have the resources necessary to bin their own, so instead just buy good hardware that happens to be someone else's "rejects" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mat_ Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I would say that there is a good chance that a decent chip, although not the best, won't get as much attention as the best samples and can be an overlooked treasure. Some chips (and certainly not all) require a huge time investment to figure out how to get past their handicaps. These might coldbugging, illogical and bad mannered bastards but they can still be a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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