Christian Ney Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Sorry, edited some comments. Alright, I have read the whole thread. I think there is a general confusion about "hardware types". Thank you for bringing this up tho, rules will be clarified and updated accordingly. Hopefully soon I made a task here if you want to follow. Now to address the Z170X-SOC Force LN2 case: It is not an ES (Engineering Sample) / QS (Qualification Sample). It is not a Limited Release / Limited Edition. It is not a Media/PR Sample. It is not retail. It is unreleased. For now we handled "unreleased" hardware like ES. And it will still be the case, just need to clarify the rules about it. So as long as this motherboard is "current gen", submissions made with the Z170X-SOC Force LN2 must have points disabled unless the user is in the Elite League. No matter if the board was purchased, received (prize) or handed. Edit: The group purchase will not change the "type". It will remain unreleased. Edited September 12, 2016 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Finally some voice of reason. After reading some good arguments from mostly Australina ocers I have to again quote milk & honey song: "Australia is a land of milk and honey, where GB Z170X-LN2 SOC Boards is retail with full warranty, and it's all not about money" Edited September 12, 2016 by Xtreme Addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew gavbon Posted September 12, 2016 Crew Share Posted September 12, 2016 It is unreleased. It isn't going to be released though? By definition, unreleased would imply it is going to be released in the future, but we know from Gigabyte that it's not. Not to sound butthurt here (I'm not), but from what I see, it's only AUS members who have this board...so let's say it is the best board and yields the most points on a per submission basis. In the HWBot Country cup, am I right in assuming that this would give team AUS a distinct advantage? Correct me if I'm wrong etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Edit: The group purchase will not change the "type". It will remain unreleased. Might as well cancel the group buy idea. [emoji16] You are not gonna get enough orders from Elite league alone & people are not moving to Elite league for 1 motherboard. Hope you'd see through the BS, but that didn't happen. Over & out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) New gen release is imminent so points will be disabled for what 2 months at worst? That is if you buy it for points. Edited September 12, 2016 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Z170 Ln2 is not happening at all. http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?p=459940 Z270 might have happened, but now unless Gigabyte releases 50 ( pretty sure it was less) something boards on Newegg like they did with the Z97 ln2 board, this is never gonna work. And that board is considered "retail" as far I can remember. Am I the only one that sees how ridiculous that for this to be rendered useless. Gigabyte has to sell like 5 on Newegg. 5 honest people & other sponsored people having it would be more skewed that 50 something (or more, depending on how many want it) people having it with group buy. But we just can't get past the complaining. Edited September 12, 2016 by rtsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It isn't going to be released though? By definition, unreleased would imply it is going to be released in the future, but we know from Gigabyte that it's not. Not to sound butthurt here (I'm not), but from what I see, it's only AUS members who have this board...so let's say it is the best board and yields the most points on a per submission basis. In the HWBot Country cup, am I right in assuming that this would give team AUS a distinct advantage? Correct me if I'm wrong etc! Team China or Team Taiwan should dominate everything with their weird boards (mostly GPU) that don't get exported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Might as well cancel the group buy idea. [emoji16] You are not gonna get enough orders from Elite league alone & people are not moving to Elite league for 1 motherboard. . I consider this progress. People have to decide which is more important. The league, or the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I consider this progress. People have to decide which is more important. The league, or the score. Not everyone wants the board for only 743. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 As someone who tested the board i find funny how much debate there is around it. Board is good, solid build and easiest board to insulate ever, but it's not going to bring 100 mhz on cpu or ram. Since the level of eff/ mhz is exsctly same on all vendors now i see no reason to bann this one from practical aspect. But since lately on hwbot we are all masters in theory and principles the debate is still strong as i can see lol Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bullant Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) I've also tested this board,no I don't own one but have tested it,things I've notice comparing it to ocfm in mem bench 32m is.... It does same memory MHz easy It does tighter rtls at ever strap,like 48-49 vs 49-50 At 4133 memory on both boards running 32m it is more stable,so if ocfm fails at loop 12 this board seems to pass all the time It trains rtls on auto very nice but you can also set them tighter when running 4133 12-12-12 like I did at 49-50 I even had 48-49 going Is it easy to use ,no ocfm is by far easy board to use,I have no problem running the ln2 board but comparing the two it is harder to dial in Comparing the bios the ln2 is much like the norm with gigga last boards sub timings are all different order but it's just matter of working them all out It's runs all Ics as good no problem there ,I've not tested it cold,at any high freq (it's not mine and I not want to kill it )I've not compared it's eff in legacy to the ocfm Would I buy one ,yea but not at high price when ocfm is so cheap,over all I think it's a good board I like it but it will take some people some time to dial in if not use to gigga bios Edit it's eff seems to be as good on 32m,oh and not sure if there is a new bios out but I couldn't find disablebit in bios so just disabled it via OS otherwise eff is around 2 sec down but all fixed after doing it via os Edited September 12, 2016 by Bullant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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