elmor Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 Hi there elmor, Thank you for the amazing work updating this mobo bios! :ws: In need some advice to get this GSKILL 3200MHz CL14 working at 3200MHz with this mobo. Im using the 0038 bios (cause GSKILL recomends 2N CR with this ram) with Ryzen 1800x. Max I can get for now is 2666MHz 14-14-14-14-34 without CPU OC. I really need to get 3200MHz for a photogrammetry process (software is not taking into account the CCX architecture from ryzen). Any advance config u recomend me to try? (Sorry about the bad english...) Easiest would be to stay with the 2666 DRAM Ratio and increase reference clock. Or you could try higher DRAM Ratio with 18-16-16-16-35 timings. You can check what others could do here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YSZB70P71Kd4iAyxSpAZf0lc2GmyALKJOQ7vA1MhV2s/pub?output=html&widget=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Nice info, I share it at local CZ forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Thanks, shared at a local forum, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace123 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1700 4.05ghz, 3600 ram at 14-13-13-13-28 1t here. Super easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achill3uS Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Clear CMOS, set 111 MHz BCLK Frequency, Save + Exit. Does it work or not? What POST code do you get stuck at? so i tried already bios 1001, 1002 different vga (now an old gf 7200) in all 3 pcie slots (all tried in gen1-gen2-gen3) 40x100 rfclk dram 3200c12 boot up and working fine so memories and imc can handle it on air up to bios set 106 rfclk boot up working fine bios set 107 rfclk posting but cannot even get back to bios, goes black screen and stuck at this postcode bios set 108+ rfclk not even posting, stuck at this postcode bios set 140+ rfclk not even posting, stuck at this postcode any idea what could be the limitation? maybe not all cpus are capable of high rfclk? bcoz as i said before i cannot even pass ~110 on ln2. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omli Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Easiest would be to stay with the 2666 DRAM Ratio and increase reference clock. Or you could try higher DRAM Ratio with 18-16-16-16-35 timings. You can check what others could do here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YSZB70P71Kd4iAyxSpAZf0lc2GmyALKJOQ7vA1MhV2s/pub?output=html&widget=true Or stay 2400 DRAM Ratio thats work for me (2666 no post) btw thx the info elmor this lead me to succes Ram: G.SKILL 16GB Trident Z DDR4 3200MHz CL16 KIT F4-3200C16D-16GTZB Bios: 1002 BCLK: 133,6 CPU Core ratio: 29,25 3200MHz 16-18-18-18-18-38 1,4V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmor Posted April 2, 2017 Author Share Posted April 2, 2017 Seems one of the devices connected over PCIE has issues. Try different VGA card, using M.2 drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achill3uS Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Seems one of the devices connected over PCIE has issues. Try different VGA card, using M.2 drive? finally i worked it out. very stupid issue. core performance boost was not disabled. refclock goes fine, so i can finetune memories as well thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reltdeats Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Hi there Elmor, Since I installed M.2 drive im getting DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (sometimes). Tested the m.2 drive on Intel pc and its working fine (Samsung 960EVO). Could it be a driver problem? or is something related to the bios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdawall Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hi there Elmor, Since I installed M.2 drive im getting DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE (sometimes). Tested the m.2 drive on Intel pc and its working fine (Samsung 960EVO). Could it be a driver problem? or is something related to the bios? Probably setup related that is the same SSD I used in the build I posted earlier and it runs into windows with no issues with BCLK all the way up to 148mhz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 4x8GB TridentZ at 3200C14 pretty stable. One set is 3733C17, other one is 3600C17. Can't go over 3300, maybe the limit of my IMC or hitting the mem hole. 3200 divider doesn't POST at CAS lower than 18 (or 17 set in bios, which is rounded to next even number). 2666 divider is fine with lower CAS, despite tighter subtimings. Haven't tried lower VDIMM, might run just fine. Memtest 100% Blend custom, just 30min, don't want to torture this cpu a lot, since I have only one and plan to bench it on LN2 Aida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmor Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Test BIOS 0079 Test BIOS with new AGESA 1004a, with a couple of bugfixes. Up to 5% performance increases in specific applications. Also has P-state overclocking working with BCLK increase. If you want to keep C-states, make sure to set Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\Global C-state Control = Enabled. There are two new settings under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\ you might want to take a look at, Fail_CNT and ProcODT. Fail_CNT decides how many times to retry when DRAM training fails (F9 -> 0d), default is now 1. ProcODT can help improve your DRAM overclocking. There's a setting available also on previous BIOSes under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DRAM Memory Mapping named BankGroupSwap. If you have 2x Single-Rank modules you can try setting this to Disabled and you might see some performance boost in certain applications. Test BIOS 0081 Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm Test BIOS 0082 Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers CMK16GX4M4A2133C13 AHU08GGB13CGT7G PV416G240C5QK F4-2400C15Q-32GRR TCD44G2400C14BK F4-2666C16Q2-64GRB AVD4UZ126661504G BLT8G4D26AFTA.16FAD IMA41GU6MFR8N-C F0 MD16GK4D4266615AXR HX430C15PB2K4/16 HX430C15PBK4/32 AX4U3333W4G16-QGZ GAM4DBLBM2133D15IE041C TC48G24S817 SP004GBLFU213N02 78.C1GM3.AF10B F4-3200C16D-8GVKB MTA4ATF51264AZ-2G6B1 MTA8ATF1G64AZ-2G3B1 MTA16ATF2G64AZ-2G6B1 HMA41GU7AFR8N-TF T0 HMA451U7AFR8N-TF T0 HMA41GU6AFR8N-UH N0 M378A2K43BB1-CTD M378A1K43BB1-CRC M378A1G43EB1-CRC Test BIOS 0083 Same as 0079 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio. Edited April 7, 2017 by elmor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Thanks, elmor. 3600 is now super easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chew* Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Can't go over 3300, maybe the limit of my IMC or hitting the mem hole. I did not hit a hole infra but i can say this on dual rank. At 3390 i was over 1 sec faster in 32m pi then 3420. Coincidence? Doubt it. I think its a strap or performance related memory hole. Imc was also failing just over 3400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReDXfiRe Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Test BIOS 0079 Test BIOS with new AGESA 1004a, with a couple of bugfixes. Up to 5% performance increases in specific applications. Also has P-state overclocking working with BCLK increase. If you want to keep C-states, make sure to set Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\Global C-state Control = Enabled. There are two new settings under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\ you might want to take a look at, Fail_CNT and ProcODT. Fail_CNT decides how many times to retry when DRAM training fails (F9 -> 0d), default is now 1. ProcODT can help improve your DRAM overclocking. There's a setting available also on previous BIOSes under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DRAM Memory Mapping named BankGroupSwap. If you have 2x Single-Rank modules you can try setting this to Disabled and you might see some performance boost in certain applications. Test BIOS 0081 Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm Test BIOS 0082 Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers CMK16GX4M4A2133C13 AHU08GGB13CGT7G PV416G240C5QK F4-2400C15Q-32GRR TCD44G2400C14BK F4-2666C16Q2-64GRB AVD4UZ126661504G BLT8G4D26AFTA.16FAD IMA41GU6MFR8N-C F0 MD16GK4D4266615AXR HX430C15PB2K4/16 HX430C15PBK4/32 AX4U3333W4G16-QGZ GAM4DBLBM2133D15IE041C TC48G24S817 SP004GBLFU213N02 78.C1GM3.AF10B F4-3200C16D-8GVKB MTA4ATF51264AZ-2G6B1 MTA8ATF1G64AZ-2G3B1 MTA16ATF2G64AZ-2G6B1 HMA41GU7AFR8N-TF T0 HMA451U7AFR8N-TF T0 HMA41GU6AFR8N-UH N0 M378A2K43BB1-CTD M378A1K43BB1-CRC M378A1G43EB1-CRC Test BIOS 0083 Same as 0079 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio. Elmor; more or less which applications or type of applications do benefit from the BIOS update, is it productivity related or gaming related. I'd appreciate the info; I'll update BIOS later on the week, using your 1002 on my Ryzen 5 review OCed. Thanks for all the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 (edited) I flashed 0082 yesterday and performance is good but 99% of my crashes showing "8" on the Q code. in the manual latest online manual it shows "08" as "System Agent initialization after microcode loading". Is 08 the same as 8? I assume so since the manual has no single digit codes but just wanted to check. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Edited April 9, 2017 by JimJamJamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmor Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 Elmor; more or less which applications or type of applications do benefit from the BIOS update, is it productivity related or gaming related. I'd appreciate the info; I'll update BIOS later on the week, using your 1002 on my Ryzen 5 review OCed. Thanks for all the work! I can't make any such general statements, you'll have to test yourself. New AGESA from AMD has a few bugfixes, and some improvements for DRAM performance. I flashed 0082 yesterday and performance is good but 99% of my crashes showing "8" on the Q code. in the manual latest online manual it shows "08" as "System Agent initialization after microcode loading". Is 08 the same as 8? I assume so since the manual has no single digit codes but just wanted to check. Thanks in advance for any assistance! Manual is completely wrong regarding Q-codes, blank-8 means the CPU is not operational (for example has crashed due to instability). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterchief79 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Does anyone know what components are getting overclocked on the C6H when you increase REFCLK? What else is still connected to that bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 did someone tested E-die at Crosshair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSCicus Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Finaly Thx to 0082 i was able to boot with 2933Mhz on Vengeance® LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz C15. Until now max was 2666Mhz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperhorn Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) did someone tested E-die at Crosshair?Had 2 × 8 GiByte G.Skill TridentZ F4-3200C16D-16GTZ (dual-ranked) with BIOS 1001 + R7 1700X and wasn't able to achieve DDR4-3200 (air-cooled with up to 1.2 Volt SOC and 1.4 V DIMM IIRC). However even at DDR4-2666/16-16-16-36* the real world performance was on par with single-rank B-Die modules at DDR4-3200/16-16-16-36*, in some cases (7-zip compression) even distinctly superior. I have not tested the new BankGroupSwap option yet, but from my point of view dual-ranked E-die can be a great alternative to single-ranked B-die depending on your setup. * not squeezed out obviously Edited April 10, 2017 by Hyperhorn typo fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 So, the same as at my side. Im looking around for cheap B-die now...(Hynix are horrible also what I tested) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 0082 is the best so far for me. Mem could not go so high before. Also don't see the Win10 bugs, everything seems fine in terms of scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flanker Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Nice, how much DRAM voltage and SOC voltage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoTShadow Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 0082 is the best so far for me. Mem could not go so high before. Also don't see the Win10 bugs, everything seems fine in terms of scores. Very Nice, how much DRAM voltage and SOC voltage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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