Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 See title. Only get to choose one thing. Also choose 1 thing you like. And go 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I would bring Massman back ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 "if you could change 1 thing on hwbot" The algorithm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, Alex@ro said: I would bring Massman back ? but y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, bigblock990 said: "if you could change 1 thing on hwbot" The algorithm how would you change it to be better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) Globals for reference clock, just because I want free points. /s Edited July 12, 2018 by Noxinite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Splave said: how would you change it to be better I feel right now its way too complicated, and thats why there are all these problems with broken rankings and missing scores ect. I don't have a good solution for what it should be. Just think something much simpler would be better. Maybe something like 1st = 100pts then percentage based after that, so if you score 50% as much as 1st, you get 50pts. Then you could add a simple fixed boost for top 5/10/15 whatever to keep everyone interested in pushing for that extra point or last second. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 12, 2018 Members Share Posted July 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, bigblock990 said: I feel right now its way too complicated, and thats why there are all these problems with broken rankings and missing scores ect. I don't have a good solution for what it should be. Just think something much simpler would be better. Maybe something like 1st = 100pts then percentage based after that, so if you score 50% as much as 1st, you get 50pts. Then you could add a simple fixed boost for top 5/10/15 whatever to keep everyone interested in pushing for that extra point or last second. You'd remove the influence of the number of subs? Also I'd remove the amount of butthurt on the forums for a variety of reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 A point algorithm which can be explained to a 5 year old, and not require a 37 page pdf. 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 12, 2018 Crew Share Posted July 12, 2018 Part of this algorythm is to decrease server load to reduce costs, keep that in mind, now I still think we need a cut off somewhere and just accredsit every score afterwards 1 point. If it was my choice I would revert back to the Hwbot of the old days Rev 3.3 or such and implement some minor changes to e.g. the old legacies as they have become way too CPU intensive, plus the cut off at a certain percentage of the top score (server load reducement) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, GeorgeStorm said: You'd remove the influence of the number of subs? Also I'd remove the amount of butthurt on the forums for a variety of reasons That would need to be discussed. Like I said, I just feel simpler would be better. See below, even management approves 2 minutes ago, richba5tard said: A point algorithm which can be explained to a 5 year old, and not require a 37 page pdf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 1) Kill OC e-sports. Its a sh** show. 2) Better points algo like Bigblock said. 3) A bit better moderation Edited July 12, 2018 by rtsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casanova Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Limit cpu speed in some competitions (challenges and so on...), and maybe even mem ram speed, so we can differentiate who really have the knowledge to bench from those who just have lots of money to buy pre-modded and binned hardware (the only skill they have is to flash modded bios). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, Casanova said: Limit cpu speed in some competitions (challenges and so on...), and maybe even mem ram speed, so we can differentiate who really have the knowledge to bench from those who just have lots of money to buy pre-modded and binned hardware (the only skill they have is to flash modded bios). This wont work ever. Because its too easy to cheat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, richba5tard said: A point algorithm which can be explained to a 5 year old, and not require a 37 page pdf. Can I see this said algo. Its hard to improve something you do not have access to. Unless you want us to come up with something new from scratch. Edited July 12, 2018 by rtsurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 12, 2018 Members Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bigblock990 said: That would need to be discussed. Like I said, I just feel simpler would be better. See below, even management approves I fully support simpler, but the points system couldn't take out number of subs in my opinion. Also the pdf is floating around somewhere, should be searchable. There we go first result: https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hwbotdownloads/hwbot+rev7+points+(v7).pdf Edited July 12, 2018 by GeorgeStorm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Anyone like anything about hwbot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Splave said: Anyone like anything about hwbot? Yes, having ONE database that everyone uses to compare against each other. I don't want to see this already small community get more fragmented. Edited July 12, 2018 by bigblock990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 12, 2018 Members Share Posted July 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Splave said: Anyone like anything about hwbot? Oh yeah should have mentioned, I like it as a whole Yet to hear of, see or use anything that remotely compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achill3uS Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 i would make one dramatic change, completely disable the whole pointing system to all extreme cooling submissions. to ambient i dont want to give any advice at all, but i do believe that no need any kind of pointing system to prove each other or to the supporters that youre up or down on a list with 2 points by the next day, your results and their ranking (ofc keeping the cups tho) speaks for themselves anyway. the simple the better, no more weeping about 3d or 2d points comparison. its not enough competitive for you? go to ocesports and join a country cup or whatever. its not the first time to see ocers losing the motivation and not uploading their results to hwbot. it really needs to worked out somehow to bring the willing back to people to upload their results. keeping the database up to date is much more important than rewarding. thats my 2 cents. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Achill3uS said: i would make one dramatic change, completely disable the whole pointing system to all extreme cooling submissions. to ambient i dont want to give any advice at all, but i do believe that no need any kind of pointing system to prove each other or to the supporters that youre up or down on a list with 2 points by the next day, your results and their ranking (ofc keeping the cups tho) speaks for themselves anyway. the simple the better, no more weeping about 3d or 2d points comparison. its not enough competitive for you? go to ocesports and join a country cup or whatever. its not the first time to see ocers losing the motivation and not uploading their results to hwbot. it really needs to worked out somehow to bring the willing back to people to upload their results. keeping the database up to date is much more important than rewarding. thats my 2 cents. remove all points to extreme, interesting indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 12, 2018 Crew Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, rtsurfer said: 1) Kill OC e-sports. Its a sh** show. 2) Better points algo like Bigblock said. 3) A bit better moderation Nr 1 is already done for your info ? care to elaborate on point nr 3 ? Since I'm the only one left ? Bala if this was the case why not just disable points themselves, everybody loves to see a ranking I guess Edited July 12, 2018 by Leeghoofd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 How about have more than 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted July 12, 2018 Members Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yeah I don't think people have an issue with the quality of moderation, more likely the quantity. (Or at least that's my opinion at least hah) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 12, 2018 Crew Share Posted July 12, 2018 you volunteering son ? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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