Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 10, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) look guys we use what is listed at the Bot, even it might be incorrect according some websites or members. if your planned videocard is Hawai at HWBOT it will be Hawai for the competition... Zosma is Zosma, not Thuban... and Grenada is Grenada I hope this clears out the confusion Edited September 10, 2018 by Leeghoofd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: look guys we use what is listed at the Bot, even it might be incorrect according some websites or members. if your planned videocard is Hawai at HWBOT it will be Hawai for the competition... Zosma is Zosma, not Thuban... and Grenada is Grenada I hope this clears out the confusion So then for example this score should be pulled from the comp? (not trying to call you out mac, I think it should be legal and would love to sub on 300 series) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 10, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 10, 2018 yep it will be pulled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickulty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Sorry if this is an annoying question but I just want to be 100% clear before I burn LN2 - so the 280X is fine since it's listed as tahiti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 10, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 10, 2018 280X is listed at hwbot as Tahiti so yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, yosarianilives said: So then for example this score should be pulled from the comp? (not trying to call you out mac, I think it should be legal and would love to sub on 300 series) 2 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: yep it will be pulled Taken care of I see. Sorry about that. Edited September 10, 2018 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mat_ Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 As promised I looked into the performance "boost" on FM1 with GPUPI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 12, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 12, 2018 Thanks Matt, so we accept the older Agesa scores for the compo, everybody has 49 days to rebench 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Or the other possibility - skip the FM1 stage completely... because it is pointless to run it at normal conditions and many people won't bother flashing bios to get this tweak working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbjaust Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Surely flashing a BIOS on a semi-modern FM1 board is not beyond the majority of the participants of Team Cup 2018? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 No, but it is not needed for anything but GPUPI... so waste of time in my book. Also the risk of bricking the MB is always there if something goes wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 57 minutes ago, havli said: No, but it is not needed for anything but GPUPI... so waste of time in my book. Also the risk of bricking the MB is always there if something goes wrong. FM1 isn't needed for anything but GPUpi here either... Its not a particularly valuable platform regarding points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickulty Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, havli said: No, but it is not needed for anything but GPUPI... so waste of time in my book. Also the risk of bricking the MB is always there if something goes wrong. Fair point, wouldn't want to risk hardware. We should just run at stock. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 12, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 12, 2018 Really these comments... Go back to start don't receive 500 bucks... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, mickulty said: Fair point, wouldn't want to risk hardware. We should just run at stock. Well, it is simple evaluation of risks and benefits. Bios flashing is far more risky than OC. And since money doesn't exactly grow on trees (at least not here ) then it is better to get the most of it by focusing on the 20 other benchmarks that doesn't require such modifications. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, havli said: Well, it is simple evaluation of risks and benefits. Bios flashing is far more risky than OC. And since money doesn't exactly grow on trees (at least not here ) then it is better to get the most of it by focusing on the 20 other benchmarks that doesn't require such modifications. But fm1 is one of the cheapest platforms in the comp? People have zero issue pulling out the soldering iron on $600+ cards for 3d stages yet it's too much of a monetary risk to potentially brick the bios on a $50 board? There is no logic in your argument. Just admit that you were wrong previously and move on. If you want to complain about "risky" "expensive" stages then perhaps complain about the dual gpu stage that allows titan's and will likely need mods on all 6 cards to be truly competiive or the IGP stage that require 2 scores from $800+ intel NUC's if you want to be competive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 12, 2018 Author Crew Share Posted September 12, 2018 Each takes his own responsability what he wants or doesn't want to do. It is your choice to skip a stage too because you don't see the point in benching this. However each point counts in these competitions,... Also If ever you brick the bios, you can still order a new one flashed with your favorite version at ebay for 15 bucks... Maybe Country Cup will be hardware "that gives no valuable points" only... It should be all about the fun part, seems some lost that somehow down the road... I really don't grasp some comments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, yosarianilives said: But fm1 is one of the cheapest platforms in the comp? People have zero issue pulling out the soldering iron on $600+ cards for 3d stages yet it's too much of a monetary risk to potentially brick the bios on a $50 board? There is no logic in your argument. Just admit that you were wrong previously and move on. If you want to complain about "risky" "expensive" stages then perhaps complain about the dual gpu stage that allows titan's and will likely need mods on all 6 cards to be truly competiive or the IGP stage that require 2 scores from $800+ intel NUC's if you want to be competive. Cheapest? No, not for me anyway... that would be s478 or 754. Maybe some people don't have problem doing hardmods on $600 GPU, but I do. Simple look on my paycheck is discouraging enough. Also I don't like killing HW in the process of overclocking - I have thousands of scores here on Bot... and yet I can easily count components that died on my fingers. $800 NUC or dual Titan is no concern to me, because I don't have that kind of HW and never will. Also I don't really care about TC standings at all - one-man-team can never reach decent position in competition like this. 26 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: Also If ever you brick the bios, you can still order a new one flashed with your favorite version at ebay for 15 bucks... Sure and then desolder the old chip and put new one in... doable of course. But not bricking the original one is far more time/money effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickulty Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 41 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said: Maybe Country Cup will be hardware "that gives no valuable points" only... It should be all about the fun part, seems some lost that somehow down the road... If the GPUPI poll has proved anything it's that you shouldn't worry too much about the complaints of a couple of individuals. I'm all for cheap and cheerful OC of course, but let me tell you everyone in /r/oc is loving the team cup as you've done it. Look at it this way, 32 stages and not a single complaint about the vast majority of them, that's pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) That said I wouldn't mind another 5 or even 6 sub gcn1 stage this year for CC. This time I will have HD 8970 ready ? Edited September 12, 2018 by yosarianilives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, havli said: because I don't have that kind of HW and never will. Also I don't really care about TC standings at all - one-man-team can never reach decent position in competition like this. Join us Havli. You know you are more than welcome. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mat_ Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 hours ago, havli said: No, but it is not needed for anything but GPUPI... so waste of time in my book. Also the risk of bricking the MB is always there if something goes wrong. If you really think that then you are on the wrong forum. PS: I just flashed a FM1 board 20 times. Seems like I'm crazy in the coconut. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) @Mr.Scott That is very nice offer and I really appreciate it. For now I'll stay in my team. But if they won't change their attitude to team competitions for the next season, then the chance to join W9 is very tempting (if the offer still stands by then). @_mat_ Well, then show me another benchmarks that gain performance from this... besides GPUPI. Edited September 12, 2018 by havli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, havli said: Bios flashing is far more risky than OC I killed tons of hardware with LN2 yet never a problem with BIOS flashing - I must be doing something wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, _mat_ said: If you really think that then you are on the wrong forum. PS: I just flashed a FM1 board 20 times. Seems like I'm crazy in the coconut. ? Well its not your board right? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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