yosarianilives Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Another year and hopefully another Cheapaz Chips. Unfortuneatly AMD and Nvidia have been neglecting the low end the past year so we don't have a lot of options. So far it looks like potentially we could do RX 550 or 560, GT 1030 DDR4 edition, revisit GT 1030 (PLZ no), or do something with APUs (there's no good mobos for am4 APUs so still would benefit from mods). I've created a poll, if anyone has any other ideas for potential hardware comment below. Edited February 25, 2019 by yosarianilives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Radeon 5450 is old but easily accessable and very cheap. It's also heaps of fun to overclock once you get some volt mods on it, those things absolutely fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, ObscureParadox said: Radeon 5450 is old but easily accessable and very cheap. It's also heaps of fun to overclock once you get some volt mods on it, those things absolutely fly. Added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niobium615 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Looks like I should have spent some more time investigating before voting. RX550s have gotten cheaper than I thought, and they support BIOS modding(AFAIK), so they sound like a solid option. 1030 DDR4 could be fun, but eh, it's probably too close to S2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted February 15, 2019 Crew Share Posted February 15, 2019 plz keep me posted on launch date, duration, nr of rounds,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Hmm already seeing a trend, hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 GTX 1050 ? +- same price as a rx 560 in belgium Cpu limit to a Intel I3 / AMD xxx GE / AMD 2200G ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) I voted APUs but dGPUs are more in the spirit of cheapaz because you can hardmod them. Something like GTX950 would be interesting, already cheap enough to be cheapaz but otherwise quite modern in terms of bench support etc. I don't know why the HD5450 is getting so much love, didn't we just have Freezer Burn? Edited February 15, 2019 by unityofsaints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jab383 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Cheapaz seems to be drifting farther from the concept every season. The GT710 was truly cheap. The 1030 cost around three times that much. Now the list has several models over US$140. Cheap compared to a Titan, but not compared to the cheapaz concept. That's where the HD5450 gets the love - back to the concept with a board I can get for US$45. That's a price where I won't care if the magic smoke gets out. If repeating 710, 1030 and HD5450 don't suit, here's more of a list. From the Microcenter web site, the cheapest boards are: HD5450 1GB, GT710 1GB, HD6450 1GB, GeForce 8400 1GB, followed by the 2GB versions of those and the R7 250 1GB --- all for under US$50. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Is price of the GPU alone really that important? To get competitive score you must have other equipment (CPU / MB / RAM / LN2 cooling) worth of hundreds $ at very least. So not very cheap anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GeorgeStorm Posted February 16, 2019 Members Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, havli said: Is price of the GPU alone really that important? To get competitive score you must have other equipment (CPU / MB / RAM / LN2 cooling) worth of hundreds $ at very least. So not very cheap anyway. Yes since the idea of the comp is you don't need a super powerful cpu/mb/mem setup etc as the gpu is so limiting. So sure you can spend money on extra cooling, but the cost of entry should be very low. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiec77 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 HD5450 is Definitely cheap on EBay. Quick search for 1GB models is around $16-18 buy it now shipped. That's cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 5450 is cheap has got my vote. Edited February 17, 2019 by macsbeach98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niobium615 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) I'm all for picking a cheap GPU for this comp, the 1030s last year were pushing the limit a bit. $90 cards are substantially less disposable(for lack of a better word) than $25 cards. One thing I'm worried about with HD5450s though is that they might be too slow. GPUPi 1B was used in both S1 and S2 of cheapaz because it's an excellent bench for this comp, simple to run, scales perfectly, and it's almost entirely agnostic to the performance of the rest of the system. Unfortunately no one's subbed it on a 5450 yet, but it looks like it could be a 30+ min bench.(Or impossible to run altogether) That's too long IMO, especially on a comp where you're expecting lots of people to run DICE/LN2, potentially even for the first time. Anyone else have thoughts on this? Edited February 16, 2019 by niobium615 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 What about the HD 7790 cards, or HD 7870s? Both scale well, can be bios modded, can be hard modded, and are able to be found <$50. Also, the gpupi issue shouldn't apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, niobium615 said: I'm all for picking a cheap GPU for this comp, the 1030s last year were pushing the limit a bit. $90 cards are substantially less disposable(for lack of a better word) than $25 cards. One thing I'm worried about with HD5450s though is that they might be too slow. GPUPi 1B was used in both S1 and S2 of cheapaz because it's an excellent bench for this comp, simple to run, scales perfectly, and it's almost entirely agnostic to the performance of the rest of the system. Unfortunately no one's subbed it on a 5450 yet, but it looks like it could be a 30+ min bench.(Or impossible to run altogether) That's too long IMO, especially on a comp where you're expecting lots of people to run DICE/LN2, potentially even for the first time. Anyone else have thoughts on this? I installed my 5450 pci but it is dead. No video output Edit: instaled a 8400gs and 9300ge white NV 342.01 drivers. No double Precision on thé gpu's A small list whit a lot of info, gpu's whit and whitoud double precisionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_unitshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units AMD need openCL 1.0 to work if i am not wrong Edited February 16, 2019 by skulstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiec77 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) GTX 550 Ti maybe a good choice. Fast enough in GPUPI to not be a chore. Prices on EBay is around $35 shipped. China seems to a popular location. So could be easy to source worldwide. or R7 250. niobium mentioned these in our Discord. Edited February 17, 2019 by richiec77 More 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickulty Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 5450 would be good, they really are cheap as chips and seem to be widely available (think they were in production to relatively recently, might even still be made?). Could it perhaps also include the other Cedar rebrands? So 6350, 7350, 8350, and R5 210. That way there's more flexibility to maximise availability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsbeach98 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Only one card model otherwise everyone just goes for the top model out of the list. 5450 are a dime a dozen on fleabay its not like there isnt enough to go around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, macsbeach98 said: Only one card model otherwise everyone just goes for the top model out of the list. 5450 are a dime a dozen on fleabay its not like there isnt enough to go around. I think the point was that those are all the same exact gpu just with different names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 what memory in the 5450 will be allowed please or is a free for all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickulty Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, macsbeach98 said: Only one card model otherwise everyone just goes for the top model out of the list. 5450 are a dime a dozen on fleabay its not like there isnt enough to go around. They're all the same clocks, except for the 210 which I think is actually a bit slower. Shouldn't be any benefit to the other models other than maybe a little easier to get hold of for some people in some situations, especially if someone wants a job lot to bin. Edited February 17, 2019 by mickulty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Looks like we have a clear trend, I'm gonna let it set for another day just to be sure before we move onto bench selection but looks like the overwhelming majority would like to do HD 5450 so unless there's a surprise upset tonight that's most likely what we'll go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Perhaps , something more powerful from the HD5000 series ? HD5670 or HD5770 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblock990 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I voted hd 5450. I have epower waiting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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