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3 hours ago, TASOS said:

 

3DMark03

In simple words

GT1 - requires a DX7 capable vga

GT2 & GT3 - require a DX8 capable vga

GT4 - requires a DX9 capable vga

 

So , geforce2 cards will only run the GT1 test to obtain a score.

 

Should we look for a bench that's fully compatible? 

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Like 3 Years ago we used the GT100 already in a TC oder CC. Still have the GTS 150 (but i think not working). 😀

edit: Oh it wasnt explicit the GT100 Serie but somethin with G9x GPUs or so.

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I'm too late with the idea but today I had thought about a PI stage involving Zambezi only for AM3+, no Vishera's allowed.
1M, 32M, or whatever, it seems like a good one but that's already been setup - Or has it?

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I think with the low multi it might be interesting which AM3(+) architecture is the most performant clock per clock…. and/or can clock high FSB :)

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The 3DMark99, 3DMark06 and Unigine Basic rounds aren't very restrictive on gpus? While I do think some of the other stages have too many restrictions, it feels odd to be able to run the same gpus for 3-4 different sub-stages (and maybe multiple stages).

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current standings:

 

  • 3dmark06:  DDR:  socket 939 limitation
                          DDR2: 2 processor cores and 2 GPU cores (GPU core G80-92)
                          DDR3: 3 processor cores and 3 GPU cores
                          DDR4: 4 procssor cores and 4 GPU cores (nVIDIA only)
     
  •  3dmark99: DDR: AMD CPU and AGP4x/8x
                         DDR2: 2 processor cores, GF 106-116(') cores, Mobos based on nForce chipset
                         DDR3: LGA775 4 cores, 1 video core
     
  •  Unigine Basic:  DDR: Socket A platform and nVidia videocard
                                 DDR2: 1 CPU core and 2 GPUs in SLI/crossfire 
                                 DDR3: 2 CPU cores, Geforce 400 family
                                 DDR4: AMD APUs only
     
  •  3DMark03:  DDR: socket 478, AGP4x/8x
                           DDR2: 1 CPU core, ATI HD 4000 family
                           DDR3: 6 core CPUs, Geforce 500 family
                           DDR4: CGN 5tgh gen (Vega)
     
  •  3DMash-up: DDR: Aquamark3: Geforce2 family
                            DDR2: Vantage (GPU score) : ATI HD 2000
                            DDR3: FireStrike (GPU score) : Intel IGP 
                            DDR4: Unigine SuperPosition 8K
     
  •  X265 1080P: DDR: Socket 478
                              DDR2: Conroe& Woodcrest 4M cpus
                              DDR3: 4cores LGA 1366
                              DDR4: AM4 only
     
  •  MemFreq:  DDR: no socket 939 -- 1024Mb -- Cas 3
                          DDR2: no socket 771-775 -- 2048Mb -- Cas 5
                          DDR3: AM3/AM3+ -- 8192Mb -- Cas 10
                          DDR4: 16348Mb -- Cas 15
     
  •  SuperPi 32M: DDR:  Socket 754 -- 8 multi max
                              DDR2: Quad cores -- 8 multi max
                              DDR3: Zambezi core -- 10 multi max (benchmate)
                              DDR4: no LGA 1200 -- 12 multi max (benchmate)
     
  •  Cinebench 2003: (notebooks & notebook parts only, no desktop CPUs!!
     
  •  GPUPI 3.2 for CPU: DDR: 100M
                                        DDR2: 100M -- Allendale 2M
                                        DDR3: 1B -- AMD
                                        DDR4: 1B
     
  •  Wprime 1024:  DDR: Duron processors
                                 DDR2: AM2 processors
                                 DDR3: Clarkdale processors
                                 DDR4: AM4 (benchmate)
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Posted (edited)

Looks good, the only thing I think still stands out is 3DMark06 DDR3. It probably needs a GPU limitation? How about 5000 series AMD?

Edit: Actually 06 DDR probably need a restriction as well, what about 7000 series nvidia?

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On 6/21/2020 at 11:10 PM, Leeghoofd said:

 

  •  X265 1080P:
                              DDR2: Conroe& Woodcrest 4M cpus
                             
  •  GPUPI 3.2 for CPU:
                                        DDR2: 100M -- Conroe 4M

 

No Woodcrest for the GPUPI one? :(

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On 6/23/2020 at 7:50 PM, TAGG said:

No Woodcrest for the GPUPI one? :(

nope changed to Allendale , lots of hardware points up for grasps

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49 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

nope changed to Allendale , lots of hardware points up for grasps

I'll take that too :D Anything that gives me reason to bin more stuff makes me happy :P

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On 6/21/2020 at 9:10 PM, Leeghoofd said:

DDR3: Zambezi core -- 10 multi max (benchmate)

Come on now, you've gotta allow XP for a 32M LCC 🙁

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Have to agree - AM3+ doesn't have the RTC issues AM4 does.

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Would agree, it would be too easy to clock up for a run then clock down without some kind of monitoring and if the cpu can support benchmate that's the best monitoring we have atm.

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On 6/22/2020 at 12:10 AM, Leeghoofd said:

current standings:

 

  •  3dmark99: DDR: AMD CPU and AGP4x/8x
                         DDR2: 2 processor cores, GF 106-116(') cores, Mobos based on nForce chipset
                         DDR3: LGA775 4 cores, 1 video core
     
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Only use videocards based on the GF106, GF116, GF116' core.

Only use motherboards using nForce 560, nForce 560 SLI, nForce 570 Ultra, nForce 570 Sli, nForce 680a SLI, nForce 780a SLI chipset.

Alby

In DDR2 stage

1)Two times written GF116 core is a typo or wanna add an other GF gen also ?

2)AM2 vs 775 ? ... one score each ?

3) Why leave out Nforce590 and 750 boards ?

 

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1 hour ago, TASOS said:

Alby

In DDR2 stage

1)Two times written GF116 core is a typo or wanna add an other GF gen also ?

2)AM2 vs 775 ? ... one score each ?

3) Why leave out Nforce590 and 750 boards ?

 

Bots Database is weird, I have GF106, 106', 106'', plus GF116 and GF116' in here. 

Maybe better idea to  limit it to just Geforce400 series? Wantd to have GTS450 in there as we wil be using it for Cheapaz too soon

Added 590 and 750 chipset

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5 hours ago, Leeghoofd said:

Bots Database is weird, I have GF106, 106', 106'', plus GF116 and GF116' in here. 

Maybe better idea to  limit it to just Geforce400 series? Wantd to have GTS450 in there as we wil be using it for Cheapaz too soon

Added 590 and 750 chipset

Perhaps it's a spec division

GF106

144/24/24

192/32/16

192/32/24 (mobile)

GF116

144/24/16

192/32/16

Something like that.

 

Anyway

In 3DMark99 ,  most of the participants will aim for a 775 combo.

AM2 Nforce chipsets are old and dont support new enough AMD cpu gen (2-cores) , that can battle with a 775 C2D.

In this scenario (whatever the gpu selection) wont count that much.

 

Yeah GTS450 was built on both GF106 and GF116.

 

 

 

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with all respect , this teams cup discussion thread has been going on 5 mths already and still not "finally concluded" for what hardware is going to be what in what stage, the TC has already been cut by 2 weeks in length and has 2 weeks until start time, now it might be ok for all the boys in the US, UK, Europe to get a hold of hardware easily thats suggested or finalised on or already have the hardware but what about the aussie boys ?, we dont have the same luxury of hardware availability as you blokes over there, and have to wait  approx 1 mth from china, minimum 2 weeks US , Europe, for hardware, and thats b4 the covid bullshit, unless you pay exhorbitant express postage costs to get the item here , there quickly, then theres the testing, modding, and what if the hardware is a dog ?, go again ????, by then the TC is just about over, fairs fair, lets get it decided on and finalised   

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