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What are some of rarest, highest bin, or noteworthy for some other reason, kits you own or would like to?

I personally want a 4x8gb trident X 2666c11 because it's probably the highest performance 32gb ddr3 kit ever made (for 24/7 use, run at XMP), since all the higher spec MFR kits were 2 dimm kits, and I have doubts about haswell or Ivy-E handling all slots populated at 2800+. Let me know if there was a better 4x8gb kit, or an 8x8gb 2666c11 kit made. 

I also want one of the Cellshock Diablo micron D9 kits rated 2000 8-7-6 because they looked cool, and that's about the highest spec for D9s as far as I know.

What about you?

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Some high bin and/or rare kits I own:

  • D9GT - Corsair Dominator CM3X1024-1800C7DIN (1800 7-7-7 2V) - Definitely not as rare as the CM3X2048 version but one of the best bins
  • Hyper - Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C7 (2000 7-8-7 1.65V)
  • Hyper - SuperTalent Project X WX200UX6G7 (2000 7-7-7 1.65V) - A very aggressive XMP, though not sure on actual quality
  • BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL8D-4GBXMD (2133 8-9-8 1.65V)
  • BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17600CL9D-4GBXMD (2200 9-9-9 1.65V)
  • BBSE - Kingmax Hercules FLKE85F-B8KHA (2200 10-10-10 1.5-1.7V) - I don't think they're all that great but it's quite a high frequency
  • BDBG - Kingston T1 KHX2250C9D3T1FK3/6GX (2250 9-11-9 1.65V), KHX2333C9D3T1FK3/3GX (2333 9-11-10 1.65V) and KHX2333C9D3T1K2/4GX (2333 9-11-9 1.65V) - high frequency Kingston bins, though not the highest
  • PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL7D-4GBPIS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - Nothing special quality-wise, but seem to be rare simply due to a lack of sales
  • PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS and F3-16000CL6T-6GBPIS (2000 6-9-6 1.65V) - Very famous bin and was very popular back in the day due to the tight spec and some impressive kits found in this bin
  • PSC - G.Skill Flare F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - The highest bin of Flares, which are quite rare since they were made for AMD
  • Rev.D - G.Skill Trident X F3-2666C10Q-16GTXD (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - G.Skill's highest bin
  • Rev.D - Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD16GX3M4A2666C10 (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - The single best retail bin1
  • 2Gb BFR - Corsair Dominator GTX8 CMGTX8 (2400 10-12-10 1.65V) - Useless for benching but a collector's item
  • CFR - Kingston "Overclocker's dream memory" (2800 12-14-14-32 1.65V) - ES, have changed hands a couple times as a "kit" of 4, I believe there are 8-10 total but somebody can correct me if there are more
  • MFR - G.Skill Trident X F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG (2933 12-14-14-35 1.65V) - High frequency MFR, though not G.Skill's highest

Wishlist (retail or apparently retail; P.S. my PMs are open :P) :

  • D9GT - pretty much any well-binned 2GB sticks, they a bit harder to find than 1GB since it is such an old IC
  • PSC/Hyper - Corsair GTX1-6
  • Hyper - Adata Extreme Edition v2 AD32133F002GM(O)U3K - novelty mostly, very high voltage spec and seems to be extremely rare
  • BDBG - KHX2400C9D3T1FK2/4GX, Kingston's highest retail bin
  • PSC - pretty much any of the high frequency (over 2200) bins, whether for novelty or quality depends on the particular kit (F3-18400CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL9D-4GBPIS, F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, PVV34G2500C9K, etc.)
  • PSC - F3-16000CL8D-4GBPIS - 2000 8-9-8 and not Corsair, lol, another case of seeming to be extremely rare simply due to a lack of sales. The one result I've heard was that it was garbage, but that won't stop me!
  • Various SKUs interesting for other reasons -- using weird ICs (very old 512Mb kits), kits with an IC not usually meant for that model (BBSE 2000 8-8-8), etc. And maybe other stuff, this was off the top of my head :)

And, obviously, there are lot of special demo/ES/etc SKUs that would be cool to own, or other rare bins that I'm not sure went retail, but the likelihood of getting most nowadays is nearly zero.

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F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS

Never heard of that one... I thought the 2400c8 pis were the best for g.skill

Any interest in samsung 1gb rev D? Like the patriot 2000 9-9-9 2v kits.

Of all that, I think I envy your GTX8 the most :P Very rare. That and the nice BBSE.

Speaking of D9GT, I recently bought a lot of 25 2gb dimms from ebay for a bit under $150 shipped. One bad pic, and advertised as all 1866mhz+. It had a 2x2 kit of OCZ Reaper 1800 8-8-8 1.9v among other things. That should be D9GT. I've also got some mushkin blackline 1600 7-7-6, and 4 dimms on single sided OCZ 2000 9-9-9, which I pulled the spreaders to confirm that it is D9GTR. The rest of the kit was 5 dimms of 2000c8 hypers (4 kingston, 1 Dom GT), 3 kingston 2000c9 (BDBG probably, no stripes), 5 dimms of 2000c8 dom GT PSC, 6 dimms of ripsjaws 2000c9 PSC, 2 dimms of the patriot green heatspreaders 2000 9-9-9 2.0v, and one each of ripjawsX 2133 9-11-9 PSC, and patriot viper extreme 1866 9-11-9, unknown IC. Pretty lucky lot buy IMO :)

My wishlist includes too much, but probably tops is some nice flares and perfect storm. That and the aforementioned cellshock 2000 9-8-7 kit.

 

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No particular interest, I do ultimately want to get my hands on one of each IC (since it's hardly unprecedented for enthusiasts to discover a random IC that's actually useful, see Samsung 1Gb G), but I have a Pi Black 2000 9-9-9 kit of it. It was actually an accident, I didn't even notice they were 1GB sticks until I got them.

Freegeek, I assume? That is a good deal, I myself got a lot of 2000-2200 sticks from them a while ago, haven't tested all of the sticks but the 2000 Ripjaws I got in that lot turned out to be excellent.

Whether the blacklines are GT depends on the part number, I nabbed a kit of those when I was just getting into DDR3 and was a bit disappointed to find out they were JN. To be fair, I didn't actually pull the spreaders, but they weren't any good.

Kingston also depends on the P/N: 2000C9D = 9-9-9 BBSE, 2000C9AD = 9-11-9 BDBG or BFBG, depending on production date.

My wishlist was also enormous, but, well, with a lot of time, money, and patience, now the number of kits I have is enormous :D (a bit too enormous...)

 

On 7/7/2021 at 3:03 PM, nnimrod said:

Never heard of that one... I thought the 2400c8 pis were the best for g.skill

Well, shoot, now I have to talk about my favorite subject, insane (near-)vaporware bins. At least, my understanding of some.

Near-vaporware (extremely limited):

  • F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, 2400C8 Pi. Very good bin, source of some of the best air results I've ever seen (though I believe the particular kit I'm thinking of, which TaPaKaH had at the time, hated cold; air isn't everything), but I've seen kits that were merely "pretty good". Apparently was retail but I don't think there were more than like a dozen kits.

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  • F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, 2400C8 Ripjaws Z, same deal as the Pi. Some insane sticks, very limited. As far as I know it was only quad kits, so that doesn't help things.

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  • F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-9 1.65V PSC. Found in an OC3D review. I would guess this exact spec didn't go retail, or if it did, insanely limited.

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  • F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-11 1.65V PSC. The only results I have a link to are from Hiwa, he claimed they were a retail purchase and sold out immediately. If some of those results truly were done with memory on air, that kit of his was golden.

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Demo/ES SKUs:

  • F3-12800CL5Q-8GBPI, 1600 5-8-5 1.65V PSC.

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  • F3-16000CL6D-4GBFX(D?), 2000 6-9-9 1.65V PSC. Look like some sort of Reaper-Flare hybrid.

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  • F3-18400CL7D-4GBPID, 2300 7-10-10 1.65V PSC. I know where this kit is but only one stick is still alive.

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  • F3-20000CL8D-4GBTDS, 2500 8-12-8 1.65V PSC. Used by Hiwa at a Computex 2010 demo. I believe Andre Yang had a kit as well. Don't have a clear picture on hand.
  • KHX2544C9D3T1FK2/2GX, 2544 9-11-10 1.65V BDBG. PR.

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  • F3-20800CL8D-4GBPIS, 2600 8-11-8 1.65V PSC. The "3" and "4" on the PCBs in the picture make me think there were at least two kits...

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Vaporware (don't have any concrete evidence of these existing, beyond people asking if it exists :P) :

  • F3-14400CL6D-4GBFLS, 1800 6-8-6 1.65V PSC.
  • F3-18400CL9D-4GBTDS, 2300 9-9-9-24 1.65V BBSE.
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Please don't follow the urge to collect memory kits. Collectors are the plague of the benching community. Items made in low volumes are hard to find as they are, and people who let them fall apart in their drawers to satisfy their ego aren't exactly helping.

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On 7/8/2021 at 8:14 AM, TaPaKaH said:

Please don't follow the urge to collect memory kits. Collectors are the plague of the benching community. Items made in low volumes are hard to find as they are, and people who let them fall apart in their drawers to satisfy their ego aren't exactly helping.

Agreed. Personally, my "wishlist" isn't really "kits I want to hoard in trays", that's useless to me, more like curiosities. It's why I use the phrasing of "novelty"; would be interesting to have, but I'm not really one for collecting (despite my spamming of this apparent collector post). The only reason I have a lot of rarer kits is because I have to bin them still, but I only intend to keep a handful around once all is said and done.

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Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "Collector" since it implies not using what you collect. I do use them. I'm working on dialing in a set of D9KPT right now, some patriot 1333 6-6-6 rated sector 5s. Useless unless you just want to see what D9KPT can do. 

The whole "Collector vs user" tension is present in many areas, and in all of them I'm on the user's side. In my case that includes 60s/70s SLRs (film cameras), 19th century woodworking tools, and classic cars. That said, you do with your money as you wish.

 

EDIT: Also, shouldn't the vaporware bins be called vaporbins? sorry, I had to. xD

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7 hours ago, nnimrod said:

Has anyone other than kingpin binned individual ICs and assembled them? IIRC I saw that set for sale on here awhile ago. 

Are you thinking of Allen's custom PSC kit's with 8155KO pcb ?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?286435-I-bin-PSC-per-IC-at-Home-!!

The kit I was lucky enough to get from Splave was not uber good like some of the others but still better than random bin. I gave them to Noxinite when he was having hardware troubles as a little pick me up, plus I wanted to see what he can do with them since I never pushed them very hard

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On 7/8/2021 at 9:14 AM, TaPaKaH said:

Please don't follow the urge to collect memory kits. Collectors are the plague of the benching community. Items made in low volumes are hard to find as they are, and people who let them fall apart in their drawers to satisfy their ego aren't exactly helping.

Depends how much you scalp them for, i was really happy in the past when DDR3 era was ending to sell a 2400C8 Pi and the Vengeance Pro 2666C10 for 1000E :)  I do undestand what you are saying and it makes sens, but isn't it ego we are all driven by? 

 

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On 7/8/2021 at 10:37 AM, nnimrod said:

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word "Collector" since it implies not using what you collect. I do use them. I'm working on dialing in a set of D9KPT right now, some patriot 1333 6-6-6 rated sector 5s. Useless unless you just want to see what D9KPT can do. 

The whole "Collector vs user" tension is present in many areas, and in all of them I'm on the user's side. In my case that includes 60s/70s SLRs (film cameras), 19th century woodworking tools, and classic cars. That said, you do with your money as you wish.

 

EDIT: Also, shouldn't the vaporware bins be called vaporbins? sorry, I had to. xD

How is the devil... I uh mean the 6-6-6 kit doing?

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7 hours ago, GtiJason said:

Are you thinking of Allen's custom PSC kit's with 8155KO pcb ?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?286435-I-bin-PSC-per-IC-at-Home-!!

The kit I was lucky enough to get from Splave was not uber good like some of the others but still better than random bin. I gave them to Noxinite when he was having hardware troubles as a little pick me up, plus I wanted to see what he can do with them since I never pushed them very hard

I actually tested them the other day when binning my PSC on phase:

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There were also 2400c8 Avexir sticks. I am aware of four sticks, and a lot more of the 2200c8, so I would guess the 2200s are the "rejects" of John Lam's operation.

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10 hours ago, Noxinite said:

I actually tested them the other day when binning my PSC on phase:

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What are your thoughts on the PCBs? Is 8155/8117 a good sign or does it not mean anything? It seems like this issue never really was decided fully.

10 hours ago, SaskOCGuy said:

How is the devil... I uh mean the 6-6-6 kit doing?

Not great. Haven't gotten it stable 1000 9-9-8 yet, but I feel like I just don't have the right IOA/IOD combo yet. All timings scale with vDIMM, but scaling ends at 1.82v. Not exact loop 10-20 @ 1.81v, passes 32m at 1.82v, fails initial at 1.83v. And the vDIMM scaling is the same regardless of the IMC volts. Also tWCL 6 doesn't even work at 666mhz. Easy to see why this IC received no attention. I will still freeze them tho, if nothing else because I doubt anyone else has.

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4 hours ago, nnimrod said:

What are your thoughts on the PCBs? Is 8155/8117 a good sign or does it not mean anything? It seems like this issue never really was decided fully.

It seemed that cold scaling was down to individual sticks regardless of bin, IC, or PCB in my testing. However, my LN2 results seem to show that my 8117 sticks did 2800C6 at lower volts than ST PCB despite similar phase scaling.

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On 7/9/2021 at 10:30 PM, nnimrod said:

What are your thoughts on the PCBs? Is 8155/8117 a good sign or does it not mean anything? It seems like this issue never really was decided fully.

Not great. Haven't gotten it stable 1000 9-9-8 yet, but I feel like I just don't have the right IOA/IOD combo yet. All timings scale with vDIMM, but scaling ends at 1.82v. Not exact loop 10-20 @ 1.81v, passes 32m at 1.82v, fails initial at 1.83v. And the vDIMM scaling is the same regardless of the IMC volts. Also tWCL 6 doesn't even work at 666mhz. Easy to see why this IC received no attention. I will still freeze them tho, if nothing else because I doubt anyone else has.

Thanks for the follow up.

I have a set of Geil 6-6-6 1333 coming from across the pond, so that's why I was curious.

Hopefully your sticks scale on cold... Weirder things have happened.

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15 minutes ago, SaskOCGuy said:

Thanks for the follow up.

I have a set of Geil 6-6-6 1333 coming from across the pond, so that's why I was curious.

Hopefully your sticks scale on cold... Weirder things have happened.

haha yes, they might scale into being as good as the worst set of PSC on a hot summer day, with peanut butter on some of the gold contacts :)

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Thoughts on these? Maybe Samsung 2 Gb Rev. D? Shame they're single sided >.> I found another OCZ kit with the same specs, but that listing didn't have photos of the reverse side, so I don't know if they're also single sided.

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