AKM Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Question for the first stage.. Say you have Geek 5 Pro version and run the bench in CLI (with tools that Primate Labs provides and is open to use in the bench) to only run the single core portion of the bench. Is this okay/allowed? Or is full bench run with regular wrapper needed? Just an open question as this saves a BUNCH of time on reruns ? don't want to be doing something wrong with this much money up for grabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 12, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 12, 2022 Pro version is allowed, Loudsilence used it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Pro version is allowed, Loudsilence used it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Loving the DDR4 stage, good way to throw people off their game and potentially even the playing field ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 16, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 16, 2022 Intel proposed at start full XMP setting, so speeds and timings.. hard to control for starters, plus the one with the fastest retail kit wins. So we opted to set the JEDEC speeds of 4800MT/s for the challenge.... It's lot of cash, this should not be an easy ride for those that have maybe the fastest cpu. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 24, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 24, 2022 Stage 3: CB R11.5 by benchMate - Pentium Gold G7400 24th of July till 21th of August Pentium Gold G7400 CPUs only Maximum CPU Multiplier of 34, Maximum CPU/Cache frequency of 5500MHz (with drift) CPUZ 2.01 or newer CHECKED Validation link is required, registered on your HWBOT username. HWInfo monitoring is required during the run, min - avg - maximum CPU clocks must be visible in the screenshot! Include pictures of your overclocked setup. Prepare Video verification. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 24, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 24, 2022 Very nice ending of the Geekbench stage Top 3 @Rauf @FireKillerGR @Splave can forward their video proof plz 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 @Leeghoofd Is for G7400 stage max multiplier 32 or 34? In thread you post 32 und the comp 34 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 25, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted July 25, 2022 34 it is... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 @Leeghoofd is latest 10.10 version of Benchmate allowed for 32M or G7400? It was just released... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mat_ Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 There shouldn't be any difference in performance, so it should be fair. Only exception is y-cruncher. The new version 0.7.9 is faster than 0.7.8 due to changes by the developer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted August 3, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted August 3, 2022 Yeah no worries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObscureParadox_3XS Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 No clock limitation for the final stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted August 7, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted August 7, 2022 Nope , full throttle it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted August 7, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted August 7, 2022 Stage 2 32M closed: Video footage required from @Rauf @FireKillerGR and @phil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 22 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Nope , full throttle it is... Thank you for doing the lords work ? Slight redemption for the R11.5 stage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted August 8, 2022 Author Crew Share Posted August 8, 2022 Yes R15 would have been a better pick, other lessons learned so far: - too much drama for the Bios rule; we are referring to the retail version number so we need to rephrase this rule in the future. HWBots intent was to prevent that for some competitions like G.Skill where the vendor released special biosses to allow higher e.G. IGPU voltages and such... user microcode modding we never considered. - Hardware sharing stays hard to prove, nevertheless appropriate video footage was provided; boot from Bios showing SP values till the end of the benching session. - Video footage delivery must be stricter, maximum of 2 days to allow some editing. - It saddens me how much nitpicking we have on miniscule details, while the score is fully legit, sportsmanship is hard to find. Either we go full retard and start even blocking submissions for stupid stuff like wrong setup picture etc... The choice is yours... 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireKillerGR Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Yes R15 would have been a better pick, other lessons learned so far: - too much drama for the Bios rule; we are referring to the retail version number so we need to rephrase this rule in the future. HWBots intent was to prevent that for some competitions like G.Skill... For visibility as its the 2nd comp in 4 months that this is happening (with a mini cheating incident in between) @sergmann & @Bullshooter PS. for the gazillion time; you have been around for years and know the bigger part of the active community. Going on the back of someone to accuse of him cheating to another group of ocers + report *after* a stage is over in hope to eliminate competition (especially considering the reasoning being invalid) looks weak. The more you keep doing it (even if it isn't involving me/us) the more I will call you out for it. PS #2 Since we provided video proof of different SP for stage 1 without it being required (uninterrupted video from score to bios); it would be in the spirit of the competition & sportsmanlike conduct for you guys to do the same for stage 4. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 @fireKill If I'm already mentioned by name . I have no problem with not breaking the rules about hardware sharing or availability/download of the programs and bioses you use for comp. If everyone follows these rules, fair competition works. Like you, I also delivered a video for microcode because it is not visible in the MM tool. Ever since Corsair Comp, I've been meticulous about making sure the programs and bios we use for comps are online. Assuming someone is using a "special" bios with more futures isn't nice either I don't think this is the right place to discuss it either, let's go back to the OC and have a beer together when we get a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireKillerGR Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, sergmann said: @fireKill If I'm already mentioned by name . I have no problem with not breaking the rules about hardware sharing or availability/download of the programs and bioses you use for comp. If everyone follows these rules, fair competition works. Like you, I also delivered a video for microcode because it is not visible in the MM tool. Ever since Corsair Comp, I've been meticulous about making sure the programs and bios we use for comps are online. Assuming someone is using a "special" bios with more futures isn't nice either I don't think this is the right place to discuss it either, let's go back to the OC and have a beer together when we get a chance. All bios & microcodes used are official and available online. Nothing special / unavailable to others was used and it was all done by the participants. Additionally, there were no more or less features added as its a simple ucode swap (its even visible on cpuz valid link). Its basic knowledge that has been around since z170 bios modding to support new cpus + z490 era for the performance gains on 32M (removal of ucode). Simple guide can be found here and it takes less than a minute to get it done: https://www.overclock.net/threads/12900k-patching-older-ucode-to-restore-avx512.1796070/ The exact same topic was raised during Corsair comp (adding avx ucode) so you were aware that this is totally ok; don't understand what changed now. Last but not least; I am totally fine to have a proper discussion as long as we don't get pinged about complaints, accusations that carry no proof (flashing gskill mems with corsair spd for which we also provided video proof - which again was brought up after the comp was completed) and about people talking behind our backs in future occasions. Edited August 9, 2022 by FireKillerGR 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I'm not in first place l, therefore competition sucks and is obviously broken. I don't even think hw sharing should be an issue at all. Especially with how the stages were laid out. Stage 1 had some tweaks cli etc mem timings Stage 2 needed os tweaks mem timings ucode play and waza Stage 3 benefits those that don't procrastinate and persevere. Stage 4 benefits best cpu and some tweaking. Something for everyone imo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richiec77 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Stage 3 benefits rapid fire on the mouse click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 We're always open for improvements for future competitions. Albrecht and me try our best to find a frame for competitions that is both fun and challenging. What I'd like to see is more appreciation within the community. Right now it feels like whoever is first and maybe found a loophole or tweak will get bashed. Albrecht and me received so many messages during the last few weeks and I'd say at least 90% were completely unnecessary. Just be happy for a moment that Intel is here to support our community in such a great way and see a chance to have a good time. We obviously see if things could be improved and you can be sure that for the next competition we will also try to make things more clear so everyone is on the same page. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 @Leeghoofd Windows 10 was required in every stage, in the last stage there is nothing of it. Are all OS versions allowed now or not? Otherwise, it causes confusion if this has been noted in all other stages and not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 hours ago, sergmann said: @Leeghoofd Windows 10 was required in every stage, in the last stage there is nothing of it. Are all OS versions allowed now or not? Otherwise, it causes confusion if this has been noted in all other stages and not now. In general rules it says win 10 only. Goes for all stages. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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