Wumpus Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I vote hondacity as main investigator in the brazillians gone bonanza investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondacity Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 Lets have some 2d fun shall we? Just looking at the team rankings is hilarioushttp://hwbot.org/team/i2i3_impacta_overclocking_team/#Hardware_Library A lot of es i5 670's and 56 2600k's floating around in Brazil huh. Oh and http://hwbot.org/submission/2202712_joe90br_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_580_156136_marks for extra lulz. as massman would say in pm, lol we can't prove it. this was a one shot only deal lol I vote hondacity as main investigator in the brazillians gone bonanza investigation. no need for any investigation. the hwbot cops are looking into it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Very strange way of thinking ... Because it is in Brazil, we can not have good results and processors? Look at yourself. Luckily I have the video of one of the 66xx i670 with its own hands (look at 9 min 10 seg, the result reached by the I2I3 member). . Another thing, Why Overheat results with i5 650 is better than mine??? Do you think if I were giving results, i was give a better result than mine??? They also knows ebay and very god overclockers to buy good ES chip, and there are no law to forbidden to buy used chip (I just selled lots and lots of good chips). I did create lots of events to teach extreme overclocking, and you can see lots of students with their own hardware overclocking hard in the videos. I feel proud to have helped my country to grow in our art, and we now have a veritable legion of overclockers. What disappoints me most here is to see who question the quality of the members of our team and our country, but when we see countries such giants as Russia, USA, Europe, etc., with similar results, without having to accept anything to comment, because for some people, it is normal to have hardware and tops results in those countries. I do still overclocking and spreading overclocking here. You can look for the events and posts in our forum (http://www.hardwarebr.com), and I am sure you will find lots of good works from my friends. Spreading OC in my country http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qliAkh1PmXw&feature=related Best regards p.s. I hope that after watching these videos, stop with these suggestions p.s 2 "Originally Posted by El Gappo Lets have some 2d fun shall we? Just looking at the team rankings is hilarious http://hwbot.org/team/i2i3_impacta_o...rdware_Library" OMG .. Why hilarious.... Completely diferent AMOUNT of TIMINGS??..... there are no the same and "NO SIMILAR" results...further Overheat's result beat me at i5 650 " Edited September 19, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRo Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Mr. Rbauss - I think I can speak for many - maybe most of us - big thumbs up to you for what you have done for our benching community. The best way to grow is to hold events - get the word out as you have done - much thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Rbuass is doing a good job for the brazil overclocking community and is well appreciated, he has students. Here I can't see hardware sharing. Just joe90br that posted rbuass' results, isolated case. Please do not blame/accuse brazil overclockers/team just for an isolated case. Edited September 19, 2011 by Christian Ney piss on => blame/accuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemto Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Rbuass your efforts (and resulting growing number of overclockers) just show that Brazil along with China, India and Russia (so called BRIC countries) will be the future economic leaders. Thumbs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) We have already made at least overclocking events like this, to join friends, teach, and obviously a lot of fun. Also produced 2 or 3 times a month, jam sessions, which are smaller events with 4 or 5 participants and do in the party room of the building where I live. http://www.google.com.br/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=rbuass+overclocking+jam+sessions%5D#sclient=psy-ab&hl=pt-BR&source=hp&q=rbuass+overclocking+jam+sessions&pbx=1&oq=rbuass+overclocking+jam+sessions&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3329l3329l0l3610l1l1l0l0l0l0l222l222l2-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2235381cd8e67e42&biw=1040&bih=626 All events are free and costs shared among all participants. The appeal of "bring your computer and will overclock with us," means that each participant learns to set his machine and is introduced to the world of overclocking. The prize I got is only the gratitude of the growing number of friends, and of course proud to have created great talent, that inevitably one day will surpass me (I am no longer a kid who is cheating and delivering results. ... almost 48 years old, have family and very important things in life to do, do not be fighting and arguing in forums). I love to belong this community and this house (hwbot) is the home of the crazy that has the same affinity for crazy overclocking. Thanks for all I hope you can solve this trouble and follow best way is possible. About Joe... I have one thing to tell. Regardless he did or he didn't wrong thing to posting results, I hope Joe learn with his own error... to never more feel shame. He is one of the best students, he is a good person, and have good knowledge... I do not understant why he did it...but I am sure he will never more will do it again, because the worst feeling that a man can have is to feel ashamed of something wrong he has committed Edited September 19, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Lets have some 2d fun shall we? Just looking at the team rankings is hilarioushttp://hwbot.org/team/i2i3_impacta_overclocking_team/#Hardware_Library A lot of es i5 670's and 56 2600k's floating around in Brazil huh. Oh and http://hwbot.org/submission/2202712_joe90br_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_580_156136_marks for extra lulz. Hi guy... Take care and do not be so hilarious Just show 2 guys with his i7 670...one at video and Bl3ss (2nd place in your shared list) benching hard Bl3ss is the second place in your "hilarious list" and the another guy 3rd. That's for you...you can plus more the another guy in the video Suspected Bl3ss i7 670 result posted (Bl3ss in the middle of me and Nuccini) http://www.hardmob.com.br/threads/422409-Resultados-obtidos-na-%C3%BAltima-Jam-Session-de-Overclocking-matadores http://www.casemodbr.com/portal/overclock/jam-session-de-overclocking-matadores-19062010 http://adrenaline.uol.com.br/forum/cpu-s-placas-mae-e-memorias/307690-resultados-obtidos-na-ultima-jam-session.html Translated with Google Traductor (you can comprove with Traductor) I have several platforms at home, but as Leandro needed to "train" at P55, we elected to make his system the session (usually done with my equipment) ... Results killers ... The guys learn so fast and sending out very well. The results below reflect more than words ... I am very happy to collaborate with the growth of art in Brazil. Only in today's session (in which only three prioritized 2D benchmarks, CPUZ, and WPrime32 SPi 1M) were more than 75 points for Brazil (and therefore the Team) and ... well, almost 60 of them global (ie, points greater value and weight). Thats another good i7 670 "shared" result Luckly we have posted about this result...cause we are brazilian...and unfortunately some people from 1st world, still thing there are nobody here can do a good work in overclocking... But on the other hand, there is a lot of nice people here that encourages us to continue our work for overclocking Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnidaol Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I didn't post anything about this thread yet because I needed to check how things would be done and as far as I saw, hwbot will take the correct actions. What I didn't like was the way some people started to be suspicious and saying other ppl are guilty as well and so on... We all realized that cheating had occur and the correct action will be taken by hwbot crew. But I don't like to feel that there are people saying that Brazilian teams are cheaters. We have a lot of difficulties to buy hardware due to our excessive tributary laws with lots of taxes.. We fight hard and we have talented overclockers. If you look into OCA's sharing thread you won't see any kind of prejudice like this... Once Brazil has few active overclockers, isolated cheating facts would seem that everybody does that here, but every OCer should be judged by his own mistakes, not the entire community that he belongs to. About joe90br I know him. I didn't speak to him about this huge mistake yet. I know that he will receive the deserved punishment and will learn from that. One day he'll come back and keep helping Brazilian overclocking to grow. I won't try explain the possible reasons of why he had "stolen" the screens. But as far as I know him he is an honest person and probably it was a misunderstood created by the fact that he used to carry the flash drives at the OC events here, probably he found the screens some time later and posted thinking it was made at his machine and he hadn't posted yet(once he hadn't found it on his own profile)... What in any way, intentional or not is completely wrong! Anyway, I'm not here to guess or make any judgment about this crime. I'm like Hondacity, when I find something suspicious I always report to hwbot crew.. there's always questionable results being posted, the difference is that instead of creating a public thread allowing people to judge a whole country as cheaters I simply keep it to the people in charge of moderating the results... Anyway (I love this word ), he (hondacity) is not wrong in any manner but to create a situation where people can be lead to bully a whole community is not funny at all. Now I expect this thread to be closed and to see the punishment restricted to who gone wrong and end this pointless discussion again and again about hardware sharing. H.S. has it owns threads on HWBOT and this one is not one of them. Let's go back to benching, that is what we all like to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) I hope Joes90 error earn it punishment, but I think that comments like this El Gappo "Lets have some 2d fun shall we? Just looking at the team rankings is hilarious http://hwbot.org/team/i2i3_impacta_o...rdware_Library A lot of es i5 670's and 56 2600k's floating around in Brazil huh." Wumpus "I vote hondacity as main investigator in the brazillians gone bonanza investigation." Earn it punishment too, because comments like this, feed the dissension and disunity all comunitty overclocker. This would certainly be the proper posture of the staff hwbotI I hope some kind of retraction of any user who does this kind of insinuation. Punish the guilty for the big error, and punish those who are promoting fights and making false accusations against the entire Brazilian community. If I was Bl3sS, for sure have to report post made by El Gappo and would require evidence and explanations of what he implied. As Gnidaol told, Honda found this error and its benefic to protect overclocking community. I explained and prove about Fabi, then we accepted the accusation, but another guys are victim But the other overclockers have been victims of false accusations (innuendo) and much much worse than that, calling the behavior of Brazilian hilarious. Excuse me if my English contain lots of errors, but I'm not fluent in your language. Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Do the pics show 4 different ES i5 670's? If not don't really know why you're mentioning it. All benched on a 3way, all very similar timmings, speeds, voltages, your valid even say's Fabi on it lol?.. http://hwbot.org/submission/966827_rbuass_cpu_frequency_core_i5_670_6679.19_mhz Do you see how suspicious it looks when you and fabi upload a result with the same ram timings and a cpu frequency not 6mhz apart only you dropped the multi? http://hwbot.org/submission/2203772_fabi_pifast_core_i7_2600k_12.97_sec http://hwbot.org/submission/2125354_rbuass_pifast_core_i7_2600k_12.72_sec What happened to you 2 merging accounts after this same story with 5870 benching? http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2122983_fabi_aquamark_radeon_hd_5870_443828_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2128363_zerobsb_aquamark_radeon_hd_5870_443262_marks http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2122557_rbuass_aquamark_radeon_hd_5870_448647_marks This is not a discriminate against brazilians thing, this is a please explain these very similar scores please thing. Edited September 20, 2011 by El Gappo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Oh man... Again and again with Fabi. Do not be Hilarious. Fabi is my wife...he ALWAYS can do same settings by me, cause I teach Fabi how to bench. We ALWAYS can bench together at home. If we want, as I showed with our lots and lots of hardware...Fabi could have ten times more points than her 7 results posted here. Bl3ss result (second best), and Guerreiro (third best) is in the thread i posted and in the video. Question... Why this results are not from Fabi??? Why Overheat results is better than mine??? Why almost all 2600K results is better then mine??? (I have no the best 2600K and never got a 5700...5800+ chip) And the last ...hahaha I have a video from Zero BSB too...he is on the first video and in the third video at Impacta...(he is a big guy with red shirt). I modded his card...and I just mod Gnidaol and Joe90 videocards too...(includded to a MOA competition, and if you want to see, I can find the pictures) Just modded lots of videocards from my friends...and will keep modding, teaching how to mod, and helping the guys.. Waste 2 min from your time and see post below (see all pics..you will like) http://www.hd-tecnologia.com/2011/05/clinica-de-oc-con-rbuass/ Thats no forbidden... you have to inform yourself. Ýour charges have no validity because they are not true and you can waste your time you will not find anything against me or against my wife. Should waste your time helping the community grow up and helping and not waste your time making false accusations. Wake up man. P.S. mine HD5870 reaches 1461 Mhz highly modded, and let me win and classificate myself to MOA Vegas... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?262557-30K-Vantage-let-me-go-to-Vegas P.S. 2 - to prevent "hilarious comments like yours, Fabi usually post pics from mine and her cards together.. you like to scrutinize the lives of others, surely you can search and find the pics. Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Oh man...Again and again with Fabi. Do not be Hilarious. Fabi is my wife...he ALWAYS can do same settings by me, cause I teach Fabi how to bench. We ALWAYS can bench together at home. If we want, as I showed with our lots and lots of hardware...Fabi could have ten times more points than her 7 results posted here. Bl3ss result (second best), and Guerreiro (third best) is in the thread i posted and in the video. Question... Why this results are not from Fabi??? Why Overheat results is better than mine??? Why almost all 2600K results is better then mine??? (I have no the best 2600K and never got a 5700...5800+ chip) Wake up man. Why are you bringing up overheats i5 650 results again? It holds no relevance to the i5 670 es scores I was questioning, his scores are not better than yours. Apart from that I understood literally none of that post... Are they all benching the 670's at the same time in this video? Is it relevant at all? Eh, show a video of the 2x 2600k's @ 5666mhz since you bench side by side all the time copying settings. A pic of the 4 es 670's too and I'll shut up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Wake up again man... You are making falsa accusations... Bl3ss posted benching with his CPU, and that's the thread http://adrenaline.uol.com.br/forum/c...m-session.html Guerreiro is doing his result in the video (look at 9 min 10 seg, the result reached by the I2I3 member). Whats your problem??? Why if this results was from Smolke and Slamms there are no problem...if the results is from Kingpin and Splave there are no problems...but if its from brazilian guys is not possible. Thats a kind of segregation to me...and i do not agree this kind of insinuation. P.S....hi man...I have no 2600K Result and unfortunately in my country...everybody looks for this crap CPU (I do not like Sandy Bridge, cause to me its killing the art of overclocking...but its only mine way of think) P.S.2 ... sure i5 650 scores from overheat is better than mine...his CPU was better than mine P.S.3 ... brazilian guys do not need to prove they are not guilty...but YOU HAVE TO PROOF THEY ARE GUILTY...then you can do accusations... But you will never prove cause they can really do it...and tell more...do it easy with this ¨%$#&%$ CPU Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Oh get real ffs. This is not discrimination, you are just getting very defensive and trying to make me look like a dick, I'm only asking questions. There have been threads like this about members from many other teams including pure and oca in the past too, you aren't the first, you wont be the last. Maybe you should do a hwbot rules lessons at your next "OC class" Also the links broke and doesn't prove a thing, nor does the other thread or the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) C'mon the links are working and posted more than 1 time... Bl3sS result made from hiw own hands and hardware http://www.hardmob.com.br/threads/422409-Resultados-obtidos-na-%C3%BAltima-Jam-Session-de-Overclocking-matadores Guerreiro results at 9 min 10 seg with his own hands and hardware I posted 3 links from same tópic in 3 diferent fóruns to comprove. It was more than 1 year ago...and is just check and translate the topic to know that the hardware belong to Bl3sS. I am not worry man...but you, now, I do not know. I will tell you one thing... You can do accusations against me...and against Fabi, cause I am here...and I know what reply to you... But you can be sure man...when you tell about "brazilian" guys..you have to take care... I am sure you will not like to see 62 members from my team asking to hwbot staff to punish you about your comments against brazilian overclockers. take care. One more thing,...the guys from my OC Class knows hwbot rules better than you... Is a very grave error to make false accusations... laws anywhere in the world, say it is necessary to prove guilt, not the reverse, ie, is not the responsibility of the accused to prove innocence, but the accuser to prove guilt... I hope you recognize that bad things suggested and accepted that you did not have any proof and you make and erred in referring to Brazilian. Your assumptions are serious enough and this can cause riot. Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 C'monthe links are working and posted more than 1 time... Bl3sS result made from hiw own hands and hardware http://www.hardmob.com.br/threads/422409-Resultados-obtidos-na-%C3%BAltima-Jam-Session-de-Overclocking-matadores Guerreiro results at 9 min 10 seg with his own hands and hardware I posted 3 links from same tópic in 3 diferent fóruns to comprove. It was more than 1 year ago...and is just check and translate the topic to know that the hardware belong to Bl3sS. I am not worry man...but you, now, I do not know. I will tell you one thing... You can do accusations against me...and against Fabi, cause I am here...and I know what reply to you... But you can be sure man...when you tell about "brazilian" guys..you have to take care... I am sure you will not like to see 62 members from my team asking to hwbot staff to punish you about your comments against brazilian overclockers. take care. One more thing,...the guys from my OC Class knows hwbot rules better than you... Is a very grave error to make false accusations... laws anywhere in the world, say it is necessary to prove guilt, not the reverse, ie, is not the responsibility of the accused to prove innocence, but the accuser to prove guilt... I hope you recognize that bad things suggested and accepted that you did not have any proof and you make and erred in referring to Brazilian. Your assumptions are serious enough and this can cause riot. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Sure...you are pathetic Do not need not be very smart to noticed you are saying stupid things ... There is nothing more pathetic than looking for find errors in results, without any knowledge to distinguish right from wrong. Edited September 20, 2011 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Always the same, when somebody of one country get caught in public everybody piss on on overclockers of that country. Bad attitude. Unless El Gappo can provide strong proof case close. I wonder what will happen if we make public all overclockers of USA, UK, Europe... that have been caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hondacity Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Always the same, when somebody of one country get caught in public everybody piss on on overclockers of that country. Bad attitude. Unless El Gappo can provide strong proof case close. I wonder what will happen if we make public all overclockers of USA, UK, Europe... that have been caught 7$/liter too easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Always the same, when somebody of one country get caught in public everybody piss on on overclockers of that country. Bad attitude. Unless El Gappo can provide strong proof case close. I wonder what will happen if we make public all overclockers of USA, UK, Europe... that have been caught Thanks for understand Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) http://hwbot.org/submission/2198281_guerreiro215_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2436.2_dx11_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2200810_gnidaol_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2441.36_dx11_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2196379_nuccini_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2195.91_dx11_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2200662_rbuass_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2499.79_dx11_marks http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8135/uniginess1gg.png http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5797/uniginess2gg.png Why change backgrounds and icons to avoid detection Rbuass? http://hwbot.org/submission/2193014_rbuass_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2440.74_dx11_marks Edited September 21, 2011 by El Gappo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 OMG. We can not have good results here... All good results are similar and all shared... You got me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 We're looking into the unigine submissions and their metadata. From that data, we can see if the same OS was used and/or the system components were changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnidaol Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 http://hwbot.org/submission/2198281_guerreiro215_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2436.2_dx11_markshttp://hwbot.org/submission/2200810_gnidaol_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2441.36_dx11_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2196379_nuccini_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2195.91_dx11_marks http://hwbot.org/submission/2200662_rbuass_unigine_heaven___xtreme_preset_dx11_geforce_gtx_580_2499.79_dx11_marks http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8135/uniginess1gg.png http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5797/uniginess2gg.png Why change backgrounds and icons to avoid detection Rbuass? El Gappo, I think there's some kind of coincidence going on here, you've compared mine result with Guerreiro's result, we don't live in the same city and not even at the same state. I've done my result using my OS and my system at Ronaldo's some weeks ago. We all had Ronaldo as some sort of a guide at sometime in our lives it would be normal to us to instinctively prepare the OS and do some tweaks as he does since we learnt it from him. And obviously at the OC events one person prepares the OSs at the day before. Sometimes it could be the same Harddrive being shared when people bring their machines but as far as I know that is not illegal, or it is? As I've already sad before, he (Ronaldo) taught us a lot of stuff. There are things that will look similar, we've got to deal with it and not to start to challenge every similar OS since its just the windows or is there any rule that every single OCER should have its own windows theme with everything completely different that I've missed? Both results are validated and I can assure you that my score is mine I bought that VGA and I've already sold it in order to try to buy a better one. And to avoid further invalid suspicious stuff, I'll explain something about Brazil to you: Brazilian OC community is really small, instead of that market of x58 and x57 SB, it's common to have people buying x54 and x55 cpu from other people, if we don't sell our not best cpus how would we manage to get money to buy another one to try to find a better one? And that happens with a lot of hardware (not only cpus), if you take a loot into Brazilian hardware forums (that is not a few because we Brazilians don't like each other in general so we can't use the same space to discuss about technology, if you want links just ask me) there will be always a big and very active section with threads created by users to trade used stuff they own. And also there'll be some results using similar hardware because some distributor of hardware got good prices on it here in Brazil and some ppl bought it at that time, and to conclude the explanation there'll be similar looking settings because we discuss on our forums and we find that some setting or some memory timming would bring good scores. We don't receive motherboards in anyway (yet) from the manufacturers (only Ronaldo does sometimes, but he is a PRO) so if Ronaldo tells us to buy one specific piece of hardware we will buy it in order to proper benching. There will be a lot of factors that will make we bench in a similar way, but you can not tell that we are sharing anything but knowledge. I'll start to take pictures of my scores from now on, it's not in the rules that it is mandatory but I'm a very honest man and I really don't like to see my overclocking skills being put into check this way. I was 13th place at 2010 MOA WW Finals I think that I don't need to prove anything. if it wasn't by a mistake made while soldering the vmods at a hotel room in the day before at american qualifier after newyear's eve I would be at this year's WW finals as well. I don't like to see the way things are going on this thread and I would love if the rules was the same for every OCER, if we've got to have pictures now to make every one believe that it is my hardware and that I worked with it, everyone else should have to do the same not only the members of the team that I participate. (but I'll start to do that anyway, I have my beliefs and I don't really like to see it being challenged) I hope that you understood it, I understood what you've tried to see and I really hope that you had understood that we follow the rules. We fight hard to spread OC here in Brazil and it's really sad to see this kinda thing happening. Ronaldo is a great guy, maybe he's a little too anxious and don't have perfect English writing skills so maybe you've felt that his words were somehow aggressive. That's normal to happen and I don't blame you, it happens when you are seeing some injustice going on and have to write in an non native language. Please don't take that as personal and don't end up messing with who didn't do anything wrong. Thanks for reading and understanding. Please, if I'm doing something wrong please, let me know that I can assure you that if I did I didn't know that it was wrong and I won't make the same mistake anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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