|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Same problem here, at first the system was promising, validated 4950MHz on water, but memory stability was a joke, could use 2hours to get it boot with normal timings/mhz, tried 3 different kits, but same same.. Under dice the system got even more unstable Hi Noxon, we have tried the two 860s on gd80 and even on gd65... the first one had a better Memory Controller (we did 2,4ghz 8-8-8-21 with ease) but probably due to a baaaad core, the whole thing didn't want to go higher than 5.400mhz under ln2. The second cpu did 5.529,96mhz under phase at cpuz, but no chance to bench with ram over 2ghz and you know, in benches like 32m and wPrime is all about ram. So... no decent scores and there's too little time remaining to do other tries. But, as always, it has been a good experience for all the team, benching at ln2 with a rig that we didn't know at all before... we enjoyed this competition p.s.: glad to see we're not the only team with silly problems in that contest Edited December 9, 2009 by |ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted December 9, 2009 Crew Share Posted December 9, 2009 Same problem here, at first the system was promising, validated 4950MHz on water, but memory stability was a joke, could use 2hours to get it boot with normal timings/mhz, tried 3 different kits, but same same.. Under dice the system got even more unstable hey guys... I have same problem too... 5ghz (4c,4th) has been submitted by Air!! http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=928609 but under ln2 any thing get crazy!! system get very unstable... All bioses and all dividers have been cheked... It's so bad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 In my overclocking sessions, I did notice that the GD80 likes to boot at a bit warmer temperatures than it was being run at during the bm's. IIRC, I was booting at around -60°C and going to -70°C to run benchmarks. Lower than this was quite hard to get stable, only worked well for CPU-Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 In my overclocking sessions, I did notice that the GD80 likes to boot at a bit warmer temperatures than it was being run at during the bm's. IIRC, I was booting at around -60°C and going to -70°C to run benchmarks. Lower than this was quite hard to get stable, only worked well for CPU-Z. We tried... we tried also to get in windows at -40° and then go down to -80/-100... nothing to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 -80/-100 is really low for Lynnfield, that might actually be the reason why the board acts so unstable. I'd suggest to start benching at -70°C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 -80/-100 was an example to say that we tried everything between -30 and -100 with 2cpus and 2mobos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 What VTT were you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 We found that giving a VTT upper than 1,6 was resulting in a no-post situation... So, if I'm not mistaken, we were around 1,55, but we tried also upper to 1,6 and under that value Tried to go with 1core, 2cores, 4 cores and with every combination HT enabled or disabled... the better combination with either the gd80 adn 65 was 4core with HT enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 I assume you also know this: - If you plan to use 1.6V VTT, increase the PCH 1.05V to 1.3V. I've asked MSI to make this happen automatically, but this is the key to make it happen. The reason is really simple: PCH is integrated on uncore die, so ... I had the exact same issue with VTT. By increasing the PCH => solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 We always used 1,3 or 1,35volts to pch, infact it was the most stable setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hm, did you test all bioses? IIRC, I had the best results with the 1.3B2. (or 1.5B8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 uhm... if I well remember the 1,3 was the originally mounted bios on the gd80... then we flashed the 1.5 official. In the last bench session we flashed the 1.5b8... same results with each bios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Congrats to everybody involved in the competition, hwbot staff too But there's a thing I really hate, I must admit: what's the sense to post the results 1minute before the competition ends? It's not an ebay auction, I really don't see where is fair play. I'm not saying so because we didn't win (infact we were out of games a week ago), but I think that it's not the way to partecipate a competition. Maybe it's only my opinion, but I like to say what I think, always. See you in the next competition guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Massman & me are brainstorming with options on how to prevent this last minute submissions. Splitting up the competition in 7 stages like the Country Cup is one way to do it. Anyway, the submissions of hwNOT are being scrutenized atm. One of the screens have an error, and he did not supply a picture of his overclocking rig (air cooling shown while cpu was cooled with LN2) so he may be disqualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|ron Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hi rich, trust me if I say that my intent was not to see the winner disqualified, just my 2cents. Sure, if in the future you'll prevent that, I can do nothing but support your decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoFoKrypton Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I think that the definition of "a picture of your overclocking rig" is too vague, maybe you should think of a clear definition for the next competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Seems to me that most people understood "picture of overclocking rig" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topalof Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 and WR wPrime with bug cpu-z and coef 15x239 valided!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoFoKrypton Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Well, to me this is not a picture of an overclocking rig: http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=924026&title=Highest%20score%20of%20coolaler If you think that the definition is clear you have to be consequent and exclude such scores from the competition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richba5tard Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 and WR wPrime with bug cpu-z and coef 15x239 valided!? No, that submission is being checked atm. We asked the creator of CPU-Z whether this is technically possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocisfun Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 32m of hwNOT also looks photochopped - appears that some shortcuts underneath left edge of 32m window were sloppily cut off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocisfun Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 (edited) not that photoshopped image necessarly means cheating, but this image was 100% certain under the works of photoshop at one point of the creation process Edited December 13, 2009 by ocisfun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 We are aware of this, J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Congratz to everyone ! Just one question, some of HwNOT scores have been deleted. This means that Topalof is the first one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 The official ranking will be made public in the beginning of next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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