I.M.O.G. Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 1 Euro in our money is 40,000Rials1 Dollar in our money is 30,000Rials LN2 price is 7,000 Rials per Litre In Tehran we can take shower with Ln2 Nice, thats really good. The price of generating LN2 is basically whatever the electricity costs to run the compressors - I'm guessing Tehran has a pretty good price per KwH. LN2 prices are a bunch of crap in the first place, the margin is ridiculous unless you are really far from the generation plant. Being a byproduct of the production of Liquid Oxygen, which is used in huge quantities in industrial and medical uses, they might as well bottle up the resulting LN2 and sell that too. So basically, the cost of generating LN2 is actually less than the price it costs for the electricity to run the compressors, because the cost of electrity is divided among the other liquid gasses generated in the process. So if they give you some crap about it being expensive stuff, explain to them how its made, and what their cost is to produce it. Their only real cost is keeping the machines running, paying someone to deliver it, and paying someone to take your money when you take it off their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinos22 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It was $0.99/lb... now it's $1.19/lb. lol it cost $3.5/lb for me last time i used it some 4 years ago EEEEEK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I got a cost increase. Previously I posted about $.50/L. They bumped me to $.55/L and I did my best negotiation to ensure they didn't take me to $.60/L though they tried. I usually buy 150-200L at a time, and when I have enough time, I buy 400/L a month. Fortunately my prices aren't as bad as many people have, but I've shopped around and done a lot of negotiating... But a 10% price increase is a lot, and I'm really glad they didn't get me for the 20% they were shooting for. It would have cost me about $40 extra a month for the same amount of stuff, plus every trip in the truck to pick it up costs me another $15 round trip in gas, along with 2 hours drive/fill time. Prices are for my own dewars getting filled (150L + 50L), and my own transportation to/from facility. You still going to Canton? They are paying a few cents more from distribution since last month in Bedford but still only charge me $.50/L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farjam Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Nice, thats really good. The price of generating LN2 is basically whatever the electricity costs to run the compressors - I'm guessing Tehran has a pretty good price per KwH. LN2 prices are a bunch of crap in the first place, the margin is ridiculous unless you are really far from the generation plant. Being a byproduct of the production of Liquid Oxygen, which is used in huge quantities in industrial and medical uses, they might as well bottle up the resulting LN2 and sell that too. So basically, the cost of generating LN2 is actually less than the price it costs for the electricity to run the compressors, because the cost of electrity is divided among the other liquid gasses generated in the process. So if they give you some crap about it being expensive stuff, explain to them how its made, and what their cost is to produce it. Their only real cost is keeping the machines running, paying someone to deliver it, and paying someone to take your money when you take it off their hands. yes the price for the electrity is low now ,and as you said the Ln2 price related to price per KwH but we have not delivery service for it, have to drive 2 hours to get Ln2 (because of heavy traffic jam not being too far ) Ln2 price not a problem for us but the price of hardwares increased to x3 because the Value of our money have been falling since last year against value of Dollar and euro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radi Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 1€ / L for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I pay arround 3 Euro per Liter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireKillerGR Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 yeap almost the same here the normal price is 2.8 euro +23% vat per litre Dice its 2.5 euro per kilo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.M.O.G. Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 You still going to Canton?They are paying a few cents more from distribution since last month in Bedford but still only charge me $.50/L. Yes, still canton. Bedford takes forever to fill my 150L. Might start going back though. Gonna try Youngstown next I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunSkilZZ Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 i went today to fil my dewar over at Praxair, DUDE omg they said that it would be around 1 euro per litre. today i got to hear that its 3 euro per litre, i was like dude c'mon i cant afford to fil my 30 litre dewar for 90 euro's i'm freaking 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBeep2 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Try negotiating a fair price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) living across the road from where LHe was originally discovered has its benefits LN2 = 0.54€ per kg (0.44€ per liter), can theoretically be had for free since the gate to this tank is never closed LHe = 3.65€ per liter Edited January 15, 2013 by TaPaKaH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kenny* Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Not a meme, but i'm too happy to care My LN2 prices have literally been cut in half!!!!!!!! Where do you get your's from mate? im getting stupid quotes of over 100 quid for 25ltrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Cryoservice and Mansfield are the guys to talk to in the UK mate. That or get your arse to an Ln2 meet where it's free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I'm with Cryoservice. I've been getting bumped for two years, so this is their apology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kenny* Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Cryoservice and Mansfield are the guys to talk to in the UK mate. That or get your arse to an Ln2 meet where it's free Stop doing them miles away from the north east and I will 100% attend I'm with Cryoservice. I've been getting bumped for two years, so this is their apology My cryoservice gave me a quote of £70 delivery then £2.40 a ltr for 25ltrs. I have my own dewar so don't need rental, the best quote I have is £160+£30 delivery and vat on that for 160ltr tank but I need a forklift to lift it off the truck :-o, I go to Glasgow every day for work but during the night when boc will be shut :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunSkilZZ Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 just found an alternative :nana: the lokal farmer preserves bull jizz in LN2 and lots cheaper 12,5 euros for 30 litre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted January 18, 2013 Crew Share Posted January 18, 2013 So next benchday at your place then Bjorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The more you buy, the more you save. If you're Glasgow-ish, come over here sometime. I'm in Wishaw. My new contract appears to be "pay for what you take" so if you add your 25L dewar to my lineup, it'll be ~£15 (wait until I start getting my new bills and i'll confirm that) and if you like, chip in for delivery charge (which is £42) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kenny* Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The more you buy, the more you save. If you're Glasgow-ish, come over here sometime. I'm in Wishaw. My new contract appears to be "pay for what you take" so if you add your 25L dewar to my lineup, it'll be ~£15 (wait until I start getting my new bills and i'll confirm that) and if you like, chip in for delivery charge (which is £42) I would be definately up for that, but as I say I only travel to Glasgow on a night (in a truck) and dropping my dewar off to you could be problematic as my truck is tracked and venturing off route gets me a hand slapping, It would be awesome if we could work something out. I would go halves on delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Have a think I'm not going anywhere..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kenny* Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Have a think I'm not going anywhere..... This is where I deliver, is it far from you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 LOL yea.....20-30 minutes. ML2 0GA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*kenny* Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Bummer ! If I went 30 mins of route in my truck I'm sure I would be "in the 5hi7" as a artic uses a LOT of fuel in 30 mins. Never mind I will keep trying, somewhere has got to give me a deal worth doing and not extortion :'( I do come up the M74 past that postcode. Edited January 19, 2013 by *kenny* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunSkilZZ Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 So next benchday at your place then Bjorn already asked my parents if we could use the garage but until now i could convince them lets try again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint19 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 already asked my parents if we could use the garage but untilnow i could convince them lets try again It's very easy. Just says that's Liquid Nitrogen, isn't gas, so isn't "really" dangerous. The 1st time that I used LN2 I did it in my room, not in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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