I.nfraR.ed Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) I have to bring out the old question about bugged driver 97.44. There are some submissions in the rankings with that driver and the question is if we are allowed to use it in the competition? It's either we all use it, or nobody uses it. Equal playing field and so on. If I have to vote, I'd say no, but don't want to be beaten only because someone used it and I didn't. Wanted to say it at least for those who are not aware of this. I know finding the right driver is part of the fun, but for gf4 it's obvious which one gives highest scores. Edited July 13, 2012 by I.nfraR.ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsuperbgx Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 "The prizes for this sub-competition will be provided by MSI. More details follow this week!" Is there any prizes to be given away for the geforce contest winners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I just updated the prizelist today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) No thoughts on the 97.44 driver? Old thread with screenshots: http://hwbot.org/news/1679_turrican_wins_oc_challenge_of_january_10_challenge_big_success Found this one as well, so I guess it's not allowed: http://hwbot.org/news/1849_update_rules_bugged_driver_rule_elaborated PS: Or allowed? Do note that this rule will not be actively applied to hardware and drivers released prior the year 2010 Edited July 24, 2012 by I.nfraR.ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) No thoughts on the 97.44 driver? Old thread with screenshots: http://hwbot.org/news/1679_turrican_wins_oc_challenge_of_january_10_challenge_big_success Found this one as well, so I guess it's not allowed: http://hwbot.org/news/1849_update_rules_bugged_driver_rule_elaborated PS: Or allowed? I get that it's allowed after I read that link. Now I'll be using it until I get a definitive answer telling me that I can't. I haven't submitted any runs on it yet. Edited July 24, 2012 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 If it's clear that it's bugged, then it's not allowed. However, if nothing has been decided 24h from now I'll personally check any score with this driver. it's RIDICULOUS that this was mentioned 3 YEARS ago and no action was taken:mad: Good lord... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 If it's clear that it's bugged, then it's not allowed. However, if nothing has been decided 24h from now I'll personally check any score with this driver. it's RIDICULOUS that this was mentioned 3 YEARS ago and no action was taken:mad: Good lord... Noted. I'm not using it. It's obviously not rendering everything. Too much chance of controversy. I don't need that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiesanchez Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 getting close to the end of comp can we have an official ruling on this driver i havent even tried it yet do I need backup scores with cheat driver just in case??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As Knopflerbruce said: driver not allowed - it's bugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 As Knopflerbruce said: driver not allowed - it's bugged. I said it was allowed (-check any subs with said driver-) if no decision was made 24h after I made my post, and nothing happened before today... so the complete opposite. Not sure if people actually read it that way, but if people complain IMO we have no other option but to allow it. I might have said the same thing to people in MSN, too. The problem appeared ~4 weeks ago, kinda late to say this now if you ask me. This question was brought up a long time ago, and if there is no official response for a while, it's fair to assume that he driver is indeed fine to use in this competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Well there's 11 days left and nobody has used it yet, better make a decision now and not wait another 3 years eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Imo, it's either allow it or disallow it for everyone, including the old scores. Yeah, I know some of the top scores will fall, but according to the rules back then, for me it was also not legit, because it's causing the benchmark to not render some parts of GT2 and GT3, which gives a big boost (~300p). If it gets forbidden now and old scores remain, how we are supposed to break them? It's like tolerating a "cheat" driver for some and forbidding it for others. If I'm not mistaken the bug is with GF4 only, but I was not able to install it on GF3 to verify (black screen and monitor going "out of range" before desktop) and my FX5900XT is now with LN2 clocks, because I forgot to change the bios >.<. GF2 can only run GT1, which is not being rendered incorrectly, so no point in testing that. I also think the answer is rather late. I have a single run with that driver, but won't submit in the competition if noone else does. I asked about it more than 1 month ago and got no official answer, except those from Knut. Edited August 20, 2012 by I.nfraR.ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakezoit Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 The bug only exists on GF4 Cards , i allready tested it on GF5 Cards an they Render Normally as the Should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 As Knopflerbruce said: driver not allowed - it's bugged. Then block ALL the subs that are using it. You can't have it both ways, either it's good for everything/everyone, or it's not. getting close to the end of comp can we have an official ruling on this driver i havent even tried it yet do I need backup scores with cheat driver just in case??? Yes, you do. I have one stashed already just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_nuke_em Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Another bump to see if these bugged drivers are going to be allowed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does this count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_nuke_em Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Dat GT4 score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The question about 97.44 driver is still open to me. I didn't submit the score with the bugged driver, but I don't see old scores removed or the possibility to be removed in the future. Should I submit the bugged one? It's just a single run and only 10p over Turrican, but nevertheless 1st place in GeForce4 category. It can't be done with normal driver. Guess other guys have higher scores with this driver as well. 3342 with GF4 Ti4600 @ 446/412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Does this count? W.T.F. 7900GTX bunny slapping a 8800? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The question about 97.44 driver is still open to me.I didn't submit the score with the bugged driver, but I don't see old scores removed or the possibility to be removed in the future. Should I submit the bugged one? It's just a single run and only 10p over Turrican, but nevertheless 1st place in GeForce4 category. It can't be done with normal driver. Guess other guys have higher scores with this driver as well. 3342 with GF4 Ti4600 @ 446/412 I haven't submitted mine either........yet. @ staff - Either remove ALL the subs that use this driver, or declare it usable. Make a freakin' decision. You can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Afaik all drivers are allowed, do we have banned drivers on hwbot ? I will check with the whole staff anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroneng Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 If this is allowed, we should be able to modify the benchmarks to run as we like also! Bugged is bugged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Here's a video at full stock (Ti4600, drivers and 3dmark03). Notice GT2 and GT3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Good job Ivan. @ staff - Can we have the subs removed now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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