l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 More like hardware tools actually. The voltage was controlled by accessing the vrm controller directly via i2c over usb and then using internal software from chil to send commands to it. But yeah, in the end it's not a viable option for end users. ^that's it, sounds simple enough:D Ok well not really but hopefully it gets sorted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-The-Kid Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Ok, could be Tho 2.2.3 works pretty nice, but I didn't test it on ln2 Whole different story ofcourse. I have test 2.2.3 extreme on cold and easy you can have the 1750mhz... and don´t need to mutch voltage... the proble is you can´t up more then 1750mhz on afterburner (limite +550), so all we need for now is one flash how work with abe 2.2.3 how have default clock on 1500mhz (+550 it´s enauf)! Elmor you can tel me if the voltage set with abe only aply for 3d mode? Today i will try a diferente solution Edited August 9, 2012 by Billy-The-Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelrw Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) ^that's it, sounds simple enough:D Ok well not really but hopefully it gets sorted out. hopefully.. EDIT: it almost seems easier to bust out the soldering iron (for the voltage control anyway..) Edited August 10, 2012 by michaelrw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWeez Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 looks like my card did not get the CB/CBB fix memo. the coldest that I can drop too in stupid mode or with load is -22 /-30 and Google is not giving me good answers today so I will just ask: is everyone sitting with 680's and low cb/cbb issues or am I just very lucky?(again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmor Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 ^that's it, sounds simple enough:D Ok well not really but hopefully it gets sorted out. Me too. I have test 2.2.3 extreme on cold and easy you can have the 1750mhz... and don´t need to mutch voltage... the proble is you can´t up more then 1750mhz on afterburner (limite +550), so all we need for now is one flash how work with abe 2.2.3 how have default clock on 1500mhz (+550 it´s enauf)! Elmor you can tel me if the voltage set with abe only aply for 3d mode? Today i will try a diferente solution Not sure since I used other solution, but I don't think so unfortunately. looks like my card did not get the CB/CBB fix memo. the coldest that I can drop too in stupid mode or with load is -22 /-30 and Google is not giving me good answers today so I will just ask: is everyone sitting with 680's and low cb/cbb issues or am I just very lucky?(again) What kind of CB/CBB issues are you having? Meaning what happens exactly. Do you have bios with only P0 power state (=always 3D mode)? Otherwise you'll get single color screen after Windows desktop is loaded at those temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME4ME Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The "unlocked" LN2 bios that MSI sends out with ABX have all power state's active. Seems to me the new LN2 bios is pretty much the same as the one that was on the card when i got it. ... So little progress, so much waiting / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWeez Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The "unlocked" LN2 bios that MSI sends out with ABX have all power state's active. ah man that sucks. where is the light at the end of the tunnel? I am not high enough up the food chain so I have not tested or maybe they are still busy with all the requests and will get a chance. I did however find a few bios versions thanks to the g00gle. All of them do have the "P" states just like yours and provide nothing special in the form of much extra volts etc one even provide less vgpu than the bios that was shipped with the card The numbers .3A .F8 .F7 .39 and one other but i can't find where i documented the number, again nothing special otherwise there would have a screenshot or something. worthy to note: the F8 bios has a "Quite" fan profile in case anyone interested in having you PC not take off at start up What kind of CB/CBB issues are you having? Meaning what happens exactly. Do you have bios with only P0 power state (=always 3D mode)? Otherwise you'll get single color screen after Windows desktop is loaded at those temps. The issue's experienced with the card tested are mostly the single "color" screen but not only when the desktop loads. if the card is colder than -25 (with no load) it will do the "color" screen, hell even during the 3d11 physics test if the hand is to heavy. Then anything colder than -30/-35 is no screen at all and if you reboot at this temp the vga card is not initialized, sigh, get the heat gun warm up to -22 (reboot reboot reboot yay. had a blast!) Would something like the bios with only P0 help or is classic cold bug, time to get a new card? all suggestions welcome. will get more ln2 on Monday and try again "shrug" maybe 3rd time lucky. Only 11 days to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtW 420 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I haven't had CB or CBB with the 680L yet, although haven't gotten much colder than -60 or so. A few minutes after I start pouring I keep running into issues with driver crashing whenever it switches power states. I can get to desktop every time but just can't get any benching done on it yet. I'll have to see about the new bios, constant p0 state sounds like it will fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelrw Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 i wonder if nvidia inspector can force P0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cowgut Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) ah man that sucks. where is the light at the end of the tunnel? I am not high enough up the food chain so I have not tested or maybe they are still busy with all the requests and will get a chance. I did however find a few bios versions thanks to the g00gle. All of them do have the "P" states just like yours and provide nothing special in the form of much extra volts etc one even provide less vgpu than the bios that was shipped with the card The numbers .3A .F8 .F7 .39 and one other but i can't find where i documented the number, again nothing special otherwise there would have a screenshot or something. worthy to note: the F8 bios has a "Quite" fan profile in case anyone interested in having you PC not take off at start up The issue's experienced with the card tested are mostly the single "color" screen but not only when the desktop loads. if the card is colder than -25 (with no load) it will do the "color" screen, hell even during the 3d11 physics test if the hand is to heavy. Then anything colder than -30/-35 is no screen at all and if you reboot at this temp the vga card is not initialized, sigh, get the heat gun warm up to -22 (reboot reboot reboot yay. had a blast!) Would something like the bios with only P0 help or is classic cold bug, time to get a new card? all suggestions welcome. will get more ln2 on Monday and try again "shrug" maybe 3rd time lucky. Only 11 days to go Did you try the other dvi conection? i did try that on my dcII(shammy mentioned it) now less cbb so its ok to restart but still best to use dice with a session first for tests i still have still cb -43c . pll did nothing for cb but did help for higher clocks at same voltage,try to use that to heat the pbc up? now i can atleast reboot ok and no issues (like you) i had before. might be hard to get elmor clocks at these temps but at least its not standing around with a torch all the time With hard mod its better since card is at 1.23v in 2d so its faster to warm You guys know that some cards are getting stuck in 3d mode,that would be great if we can find out whatsup....issue for some but good for others??? as for the setting performance level 0 with INV i did try that but ran slower and crappier in my tests Edited August 13, 2012 by cowgut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-The-Kid Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Me too. Not sure since I used other solution, but I don't think so unfortunately. I already try.. and yes the voltage it´s set, but 2d mode with the same clock of 3dmode have low score (-200 point´s on 3dmark2011)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Vivi Posted August 14, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 14, 2012 why can't we just hardmod it? If MSI give us the mods then it's OUR fault if the card dies. But if they give us ABX it's 'THEIR' fault the cards die (according to the people). So why not give us the mods and let us break our own cards! It will be so much easier and they won't be held accountable for any damage. Pleaaaaaaase. This LOC will totally be broken if no one can compete at full strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splave Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I think 1550mhz core LCC sounds fun rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurek Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 hard mode=varranty void its better to oc thru msi afterburner, u kill card, u get a new one only nvidia doesnt like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Vivi Posted August 15, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 15, 2012 hard mode=varranty voidits better to oc thru msi afterburner, u kill card, u get a new one only nvidia doesnt like it Yes but let us be allowed to void warranty . I want to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Yes but let us be allowed to void warranty . I want to do it Totally agree, I would gladly trade my warranty for a P0-state-only BIOS with constant voltage and a boost clock of 500Mhz from base. But then again, I understand if this is probably difficult for MSI too since they have nVIDIA watching their every move... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-The-Kid Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Excuse me this question ... but you guys can bench on ln2 in the limit of the ln2 bios? And get good scores at this limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWeez Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 and get good scores at this limit? well now you see that is relative to what you think is a good score My answer: yes you can push the card to a point past what the reference cards will do and NO you can't push enough to make the score count for anything on the bot or for LOC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-The-Kid Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 i,m asking it because i already run the card at 1750mhz, and in my case i have mutch more problem to solve then the limite... my sistem it´s very very instable! You don´t have any problem to run 680lightning under ln2, and cpu pushed? Good score at 1750 will be arround 15k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWeez Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 i already run the card at 1750mhz Lucky bugger. what type of unstable are we talking here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy-The-Kid Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Dificulte on boot to windwos with some bclk and red screen, artefact´s when pass colboot temp, etc etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWeez Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Did you try the other dvi conection? thanks bud, worked like a charm on the one card but unfortunately until there is a proper solution to control the beast this and my other cards are still a pile of ... well you fill in the blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmor Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 why can't we just hardmod it? If MSI give us the mods then it's OUR fault if the card dies. But if they give us ABX it's 'THEIR' fault the cards die (according to the people). So why not give us the mods and let us break our own cards! It will be so much easier and they won't be held accountable for any damage. Pleaaaaaaase. This LOC will totally be broken if no one can compete at full strength Completely agreed! thanks bud, worked like a charm on the one card but unfortunately until there is a proper solution to control the beast this and my other cards are still a pile of ... well you fill in the blanks Right, when using higher voltages and lower temps you might notice black screen issue similar to AMD cards. There's an easy fix though, just make sure you use VGA output and not DVI (DVI -> VGA adapter, only works with one port). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Vivi Posted August 19, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 19, 2012 haha thanks elmor! We noticed the black screening at low temps and volts. But not too bad, thanks for the display port tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Vivi Posted August 20, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 20, 2012 ho ho ho?? kingpin watch out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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