Xtreme_Solid Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 WOW. Thanks GIGABYTE. I will update my scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matose Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 ES CPU allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 # Retail hardware only. Hardware must be available for purchase at the beginning of this competition. Pre-order is not okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiesanchez Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 is allright if my picture still has the video card in it, I wont use it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Why does my gpu-z indicate pci buss when there is no card in it? Any way to disable that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosunermc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 with 1995 drivers p1400 is peace of cake but vantage is not vantage i.e. 3dmark01 with lod. with 2057 drivers vantage is normal and p 1000 is incredible score. I want to have explanation will 1995 drivers will be accepted or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 LOD is generally accepted, why should it be disallowed in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosunermc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 even at the loading screen of the tests you cant see the picture of the test I will upload it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I can't see the loading screen properly when I use LOD with ATI in 06 - same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosunermc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I couldnot get screen captures. I dont have camera with me now . I wil take photos of some screens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosunermc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Yes but I see only "creating shaders",etc with blue colors no picture nothing only informations. Most probably you have already tested 1985 drivers Massman. If you havenot tested test it under 32 bit vista If you say yes this is legal tweak than lets play with 1995. But this is like mipmap tweak of 3d01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 How's the benchmark itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosunermc Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 at gt2 space ship is compelety black at most of test you see black screen. Only explotions and stars are visible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Okay. Just ordered a Clarkdale and check for myself. TO ALL COMPETITORS: Please run your tests using normal drivers / normal FPS as well. If there's indeed a major screen corruption going on, the driver/scores will probably get removed. I'll try to get it sorted before the weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Okay. Just ordered a Clarkdale and check for myself. TO ALL COMPETITORS: Please run your tests using normal drivers / normal FPS as well. If there's indeed a major screen corruption going on, the driver/scores will probably get removed. I'll try to get it sorted before the weekend! By normal drivers I assume you mean anything other than 1995...very well. What does normal fps mean? This contest just invites glitches in one manner or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Vista 64 1995 driver runs normal...need ruling on this asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 By normal drivers I assume you mean anything other than 1995...very well. What does normal fps mean? This contest just invites glitches in one manner or another. No competition invites glitches, I'm just happy Tosun notified us that something bizar was going on. Can someone please confirm that the 1995 driver in combination with Vista 32-bit is buggy and produces out of the norm results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) No competition invites glitches, I'm just happy Tosun notified us that something bizar was going on. Can someone please confirm that the 1995 driver in combination with Vista 32-bit is buggy and produces out of the norm results? Yes the screen is distorted during the first two tests...normal in the cpu tests. 1995 driver in Vista 64 is normal. Only way I see you can rectify is to specify what OS and driver is to be used. What exactly is normal results anyway? We are all operating far outside the parameters of this tech...someone needs to define the parameters if the results are not acceptable. Edited March 17, 2010 by rickss69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yes the screen is distorted during the first two tests...normal in the cpu tests. 1995 driver in Vista 64 is normal. Only way I see you can rectify is to specify what OS and driver is to be used. What exactly is normal results anyway? Drivers causing parts of the benchmark not to be rendered is not a 'normal driver'. We can debate semantics and philosophize about the meaning en effect of the word and concept of 'normal' all we want, in the end it's pretty clear that a driver causing your score to boost over 40% (with clear inaccurate rendering) is not meant to be part of an overclocking competition. 1995 driver in combination with Vista 32-bit is no longer allowed in the competition. The scores have been removed. Still have a fortnight to re-run using the non-bug drivers. We are all operating far outside the parameters of this tech...someone needs to define the parameters if the results are not acceptable. At the moment we have to rely on the input of overclockers on these kinds of problems. We all know how things go at Futuremark and I don't think we like waiting six months for an approved HWBOT driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebob Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I think those kind of rules should have been define from the get go, changing in the middle of the comp is not right. Spent alot of hours tweaking that thing and now being told that I have to use something different.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Obviously we had no idea about this kind of driver problem ... we did not test all driver/OS combinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebob Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 and how come it's suddenly becoming "my" problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 (edited) If we are to discuss obvious glitch's then I must bring up another item. Both bennylodewijk's and dasa's submissions state core frequencies of almost 1300mhz...these chips simply won't run there. I do not know where they got those numbers from or if it was an honest mistake. Has anyone else been able to run Vantage at those frequencies? If not, I must conclude they were glitch runs. My view is that if gpu-z will not show the core/mem frequencies that is a glitch in itself. How about making that a requirement for submissions? Edited March 18, 2010 by rickss69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 1300MHz Core frequency indicated here as well: http://hwbot.org/community/submission/951939_pcci2iminal_3dmark_vantage___performance_gma_hd_894_marks Do note: that run is an extremely bad one. The performance ~ 1150MHz core. Anyway, I guess I'm naive to think everyone will just go back to their benching rig? Well, I must say that there's no prize for best moaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickss69 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 1300MHz Core frequency indicated here as well: http://hwbot.org/community/submission/951939_pcci2iminal_3dmark_vantage___performance_gma_hd_894_marks Do note: that run is an extremely bad one. The performance ~ 1150MHz core. Anyway, I guess I'm naive to think everyone will just go back to their benching rig? Well, I must say that there's no prize for best moaner. That was an assinine response to a perfectly logical question. I should have expected as much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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