Moose83 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 For me, this is sharing on an high Level. If i ore other user/Teams in oc league do this, they will ban or must break for 1 year. But they are pro overclockers and do this and nothing happend thats not fair! maybee they have 5 or more 7g Chips, but same time, ram and clocks??? This is a joke... I think they want to kick André from the top, but one allone cant so they make sharing. Im for ban both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 HWBot crew is back from Berlin and we are waiting decision. If need any facts for confirmation that John Lam is liar, i can show more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Then show ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzan Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 And than? Nobody blames Hazzan for using the same setup under Lhe ? It appears that hw sharing rules aren't the same for the two oc leagues, that 's all folks I bench my own ...but lets make simple if you are mind I will remove my score..well I have 3 Chip 6.9XX Ghz. actually 4 but die one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Beier Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hardware mafia is not a new thing, I really dont get why people are all tense about it now.... Sure its not fair, sure far from everyone can get in.... But why now? Its been like this for more than 3 years.... I still do not think its same setup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Marc, Because I'm starting a witch hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) I showed that John Lam and Mad 222 was shared results in Super Pi 32M, but hwbot crew not see facts why crew don't must believe HKEPC` words. I am ready to prove that John Lam is liar. He is deceives to vendors and thus all true overclocking community. http://hwbot.org/submission/2303028_hkepc_wprime_32m_core_i7_3770k_3sec_484ms'>http://hwbot.org/submission/2303028_hkepc_wprime_32m_core_i7_3770k_3sec_484ms This results was done on Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H by John Lam. I think it`s good way for report/feedback for Gigabyte. BUT! It not was Gigabyte motherboard. All Gigabyte motherboards can`t set 1206.8 Mhz for DRAM. Please lets check: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H. BCLK 109.6 MHz (really 109.63 MHz) BCLK 109.7 Mhz (really 109.71 Mhz) BCLK 109.8 Mhz (really 109.79 MHz) Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5H BCLK 109.7 MHz BCLK 109.8 MHz Who knows how to receive 1206.8 MHz on DRAM. No need magic hand, need only ASUS motherboard. John Lam «benched for Gigabyte» on ASUS motherboard the 17th of July. Please check this results, which submitted the 17th of July. I am sure that it was ASUS motherboard too. http://hwbot.org/submission/2300691_hkepc_superpi_core_i7_3770k_5sec_297ms But why wPrime 32M score John Lam submitted only the 27th of July? http://hwbot.org/submission/2303028_hkepc_wprime_32m_core_i7_3770k_3sec_484ms Because Mad222 submitted wPrime 32M the 17th of July. http://hwbot.org/submission/2300673_mad222_wprime_32m_core_i7_3770k_3sec_468ms I dont see screen by Mad222 for wPime 32M, but sure that John Lam submitted previous result, which was received by Mad222. I think that was same situation as in wPrime 1024M. Previous result, which Mad222 received the 17th of July, was submitted by John Lam the 27th of July. http://hwbot.org/submission/2292932_mad222_wprime_1024m_core_i7_3770k_110sec_281ms'>http://hwbot.org/submission/2292932_mad222_wprime_1024m_core_i7_3770k_110sec_281ms John Lam showed it as Gigabyte motherboard but higher i am explain why it was ASUS motherboard. This results was posted by John Lam, because Mad222 received better score. And submitted best score the 17th of July. And show us which was a really motherboard. http://hwbot.org/submission/2292932_mad222_wprime_1024m_core_i7_3770k_110sec_281ms I think it`s enough. Edited August 26, 2012 by slamms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Olesius Posted August 26, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 26, 2012 it is very wonderful! and clear enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 it is very wonderful! and clear enough for me Thanks mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted August 26, 2012 Crew Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sad read... good find Slamms... I hope there's a reasonable explenation for all of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sad read... good find Slamms... I hope there's a reasonable explenation for all of this... Yes, and I gave it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 ^yes the reasonable explanation is simply lying to vendors and users, while hw sharing. I am all for group sessions, but only one of them needs to upload the sub, not both, just saying. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Yes, and I gave it up I would say so. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Very good info, Slamms! I'll test the memory MHz here tomorrow as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Please use same CPUZ Version as he used if you really want to compare right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 And same BIOS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 And same BIOS? Yeah forgot it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 same as who? or same BIOS as on ASUS LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) Different way to different people... I remember few days ago... when me and Gnidaol hold a place to the MOA finals... With NO ONE proof, El Gappo bring public insinuations and accused me and Iuri...lots and lots of false insinuations... After about hundred of false accusations and false insinuations without no one proof, Hwbot told us that was necessary (mandatory) to prove we were not guilty (in no one place in the world, people need to prove that have no guilty... BUT is necessary to prove the guilty to make accusations)... So... We feel sad and worry about 3 days (we lose's the mother's day in Brazil...feeling sad because we could lose our well deserved place to MOA)... We spent LN2 (very expensive here) and one more day (we need to bench in Live Stream TO PROVE we were not guilty)... And more...was needed to win MOA 2 times to can go to Taiwan... "Question" If one of our videocards was death, or our system was not able to get the scores to win the second time???. Today... we were be consider as cheaters (El Gappo... I hope it did learn you some good things). Only to remember: http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?p=173706&postcount=286 I understand, after El Gappo complaining and his followers, a tempest of false accusations, Hwbot require for us to be benched again with lots of risk to lose our place in the finals... with much less evidence (I understand, but still not agreed) And now???? What will be the decision after this evidences? Looking forward to see the decision. (I really consider Mad222 a great overclocker and very good people, but unfortunately looks for Slamms have full reason) Thanks Slamms Edited August 27, 2012 by rbuass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ananerbe Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 rbuass, it's easy -double standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamms Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Friends, wait, the decision is pending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
der8auer Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Sorry for the delay guys. We were at Campus Party in Berlin and I just found the time this morning to read the whole topic. We're discussing this internally and will let you know if there are any news. My personal opinion is that this realy looks suspicious but we don't have proof at the moment whether CPUs were shared or not. But I also agree on you guys that we've banned members in the past with less evidence. So this is realy hard to decide and we'll need some time to think about that properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Good to know Roman! This is sharing and slamm offert enough Details. Hwbot must be fair, no cheats and no sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gappo Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 <3 you too Rbuass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Fyi, I get the same result like Slamms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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