Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 16, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 16, 2012 From time to time Ive been looking through these and I see lots of results in the wrong category's . In the GMA HD (Clarkdale) section do people continuously posting results with sandybridge cpus and even some results with arrandale cpus. The same for GMA HD mobile (Arrandale). People seems to dont know that there is no mobile sandy bridge section. As even the mobile one's are like the desktop HD2000 & HD3000 gpu's. Ive been already reporting some of these but there are many and I hope that a result moderator can go through all of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 16, 2012 Author Crew Share Posted December 16, 2012 The situation in the GMA 950 mobile section is even more complicated. Â There are lots of results with Intel Atom processors that have his own category. The name of this category seems to be also wrong as atom uses 945GSE and it seems that GPU-Z is reporting things incorrectly. To make things even more interesting there are also results with 64bit memory interface (non atom) resulting of single channel ram (because these devices have just one ram slot). Â Also I dont understand the cryptic naming pattern. Wouldnt it be easier to make just 3 categorys like that: Intel GMA 950 (desktop) Intel GMA 950 (mobile) Intel GMA 950 (mobile) 64bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Well, I submitted it as GMA HD Mobile and that's what came back. I just resubmitted it and now it's in the desktop section and it's a laptop cpu. Â And sorry but no! Mobile Sandys are not like desktop Sandy's. So it needs it's own section period. That's like saying a GTX680M is the same as a desktop GTX680. So no again. Â So quite reporting and start helping to get it changed first. And since it has nothing to do with the user submitting, means it has to do with the categories listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 16, 2012 Author Crew Share Posted December 16, 2012 Hi, it was not my intention to make you angry. But as a matter of fact your entry doesnt belong to this category. HD3000 is almost double speed, compared to clarkdale/arrendale. Desktop and mobile Sandy's are technically the same. Both feature 12EUs. But youre right that performance wise, these are not comparable. Maybe some of the mods find a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I will investigate but afaik the HD 2000/3000/4000 mobile is the exact same as the desktop version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobnova Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Atom CPUs can be had with Nvidia ION chipsets and dual channel ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I will investigate but afaik the HD 2000/3000/4000 mobile is the exact same as the desktop version. Â On paper it is. In real life benching, it isn't. I might go for that if you gave me WR points for my mobile runs. So a separate category please. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturas Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) On paper it is. In real life benching, it isn't. I might go for that if you gave me WR points for my mobile runs. So a separate category please. Thanks. Â If the spec sheet is in fact the same, then wouldn't it be just giving you twice the points for benching one card with a faster cpu (i.e. desktop) and a slower one (notebook) ? Â That would be like giving out seperate points for benching a HD7970 with Intel i7 and Intel Core 2. The GPU would be the same, you just want points for benching with a slower CPU, that doesn't make sense. Â This only applies if both GPUs are identical. Â As usual notebook gpus differ from their desktop alternatives I do understand the seperate category. If this isn't the case with the HD3k/4k/5k then those categories you're asking for would be absolutely unneccesary. Edited December 18, 2012 by Saturas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted December 18, 2012 Author Crew Share Posted December 18, 2012 Any update / progress / comment from staff on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 5, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 5, 2013 I will investigate but afaik the HD 2000/3000/4000 mobile is the exact same as the desktop version. Â IIRC the HD3000 in the desktop variant has more options to change clock speed. Just like a free multi. The mobile chips remain at 650Mhz and lower. So actually this should qualify for an extra HD3000 mobile section, although this may be just a limitation by the mobile chipsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 No answer from Intel :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted January 5, 2013 Crew Share Posted January 5, 2013 No answer from Intel :-/ Â i think because you trolled them too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Just wrote to Paul Otellini, hope he hasn't left Intel yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 IIRC the HD3000 in the desktop variant has more options to change clock speed. Just like a free multi. The mobile chips remain at 650Mhz and lower. So actually this should qualify for an extra HD3000 mobile section, although this may be just a limitation by the mobile chipsets. Â You are correct, the limitation is on the chipset-side. Only the Z77-based boards allow proper overclocking. All other chipsets are limited to spec overclocking (= turbo multipliers). Â The HD3000 in a mobile chip is identical to the one in a desktop chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 6, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 6, 2013 Â The HD3000 in a mobile chip is identical to the one in a desktop chip. Â Ok fine. But still you can't plug mobile chips in a Z77 mobo. So whats the solution now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Qm77 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 6, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 6, 2013 Ok qm77 has oc support. But just for cpu or gpu also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Should be the mobile version of the Z77 so my guess is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 6, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 6, 2013 Last guess for today: We dont create an extra section for this. As those people could buy them an qm77 notebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Same as for desktop, we dont have i7 2600K (H61) and i7 2600K (P67) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 7, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 7, 2013 Well Im fine with this decision... I will start reporting the submissions which are in the wrong category. (plenty of work) Â Next thing: 945GME should be renamed in 945GSE (or GMA 950 (atom))as stated in post #2 GMA 950 with 64bit Memory bus should get their own section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yes they are the same in terms of features. There is only a frequency difference between the mobile and desktop versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 7, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 7, 2013 Â Ok, thats what we already knew then... Â Though, we could debate now if the different sockets make a difference. As we have cpu's in the database that are 1:1 identical except their connection to the mobo. Doing the same for integrated graphic cards would be just consequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Strunkenbold Posted January 7, 2013 Author Crew Share Posted January 7, 2013 I just came across this submission. Intel says its HD Graphics. Not HD2000 or HD3000. Seems we are missing a category here: GMA HD (Sandy Bridge) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnksss Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yeah, your missing a Mobile GMA HD 3000/4000 class which is now warranted due to all the laptop owners with these mobile cpus. When are we planning on fixing this?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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