Massman Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Since I've received quite a bit of questions about this: a sticky! Background: To understand why sometimes your scores do not recieve a ranking or points, it's important to know how the engine works exactly. In essence, our HWBOINT engine is programmed only to recalculate the scores that will be receiving points in the first place. This means that it will not check submissions that the engine believes will not get a ranking, mostly because the user already has a better submission in that category. If you submit a new score, the following happens: - user fills in all correct details - user clicks submit - engine checks if the score is the user's best in the global category - engine checks if the score is the user's best in the hardware category If the answer is yes on either of the last two questions, the engine will recalculate the entire global and/or hardware ranking and will determine what rank, and points, should be given to the score. Normally, this is never a problem for the engine. No rank/points, why? Sometimes a score that should receive points, doesn't receive any. This is because the engine doesn't know (hasn't logged) that this score should receive a rank. As long as the engine isn't instructed to check the rank/points for this score, it will not give any. The reason for this can be: - You have a better score with the same hardware - You have edit a score to a better result - You have submit a score in the wrong category - Two scores are worth exactly the same (*) The main cause of problems is people who are editing results. If you want everything to go well, you need to submit new scores instead of editing older ones. (*): in this case, the points HAVE BEEN calculated and are added to the team total, just not the personal total. This issue can only be solved with patience: until one of your scores has dropped/raised in points, none of them will be seen by the engine as 'best scoring submission for this global benchmark'. The solution. Most of the problems can be solved by doing two things: 1) Force the engine to go over all your scores and flag those that will need to be recalculated - go to your profile and click on the 'options' tab - click on 'Force recalculation of best submissions.' The engine will log all scores that need to be re-evaluated and when the next rank/points calculation is triggered, your points will be added. 2) Force the engine to recalculate a particular score to be re-evaluated and be given rank/points accordingly - go to the particular score and click on the 'more' tab - click on the small calculator image. This will trigger the rank/point calculation. Note: clicking this will make ALL logged scores to be recalculated, not just this particular one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor941 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 the magic button is back \oo/ Edit : in fact not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 F*** Yeah it is back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor941 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I don't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 "magic" button back here too, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted August 30, 2010 Crew Share Posted August 30, 2010 great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor941 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I have it on my profile but I can't see it on the others - do need it to moderate thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted August 30, 2010 Crew Share Posted August 30, 2010 I have it on my profile but I can't see it on the others - do need it to moderatethx me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor941 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 up RB! do need this feature please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roby The Beast (Tracteur) Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1048207_roby_the_beast_cpu_z_core_2_q6600_2.4ghz_4145.5_mhz?tab=info Hey my score does't give my point, and I force the racalculation and it do nothing. It said that is not my best score, but it is my only one with this CPU! It hapened after I add the photo, maybe is because the photo as not been taked during the bench and it have 2 memory stick on the photo and I make the score with one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Did you try step 1 of the solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roby The Beast (Tracteur) Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme_Solid Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 WOw thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBros Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 our new Vantage Submission not get the WR Points http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/1058238_benchbros_3dmark_vantage___performance_4x_geforce_gtx_480_60222_marks any solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor941 Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 fixed itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linuxfan Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Got a 2x vantage run and 1x vantage run getting exactly the same number of global points. Now Hwbot says that the other gets more points and I don't get global points on my profile for either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted March 15, 2011 Author Share Posted March 15, 2011 Yes, sorry, that a bug. When one of the scores drops, you'll have your points back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linuxfan Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Yes, sorry, that a bug. When one of the scores drops, you'll have your points back. Figured that. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Turrican Posted March 15, 2011 Crew Share Posted March 15, 2011 weirt bug. 2 times the same submission gets the same amount of globals? http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/2140580_lower_pifast_core_i7_extreme_980x_14.6_sec http://www.hwbot.org/community/submission/2140581_lower_pifast_core_i7_extreme_980x_14.6_sec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalam Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 all my hardware submissions get calculating and get eventually 0 points:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamehdi Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 where is Force recalculation in the new version hwbot ? I had 50 points in the previous version, but the new version of my score is 33 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 Faq: http://hwbot.org/article/faq Question: I lost points in comparison to Rev3, how is that possible? Answer: Of course the reason can be different for everyone, but the most common cause of the loss of points is the removal of the personal hardware point cap of 300 points and instead limiting the effect of hardware points to ‘top-20′ most rewarding scores. - Rev3: MAX(hardware points, 300) - Rev4: SUM(top-20 most rewarding hardware scores) Example: if you have 1000 0.1p submissions, your hw point contribution would be: - Rev3: MAX(1000×0.1, 300) => 100p - Rev4: SUM(25x 0.1) => 2.5p The only way to ’solve this situation is by … pushing harder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 but whats about mamehdis first question? "where is Force recalculation in the new version hwbot ?" i´ve searched for it, too^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 there is no more this button, the engine do it every time by itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 there is no more this button, the engine do it every time by itself You mean it's supposed to. I still have stuff hanging from 2 days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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