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The official Rookie Rumble Cup #3 thread.


Massman

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Just wanted to give a bit of feedback about the competition. I have now competed in all 3 cups and let me say it is a great concept with 1 exception. The use of XTU should be reconsidered. The problem being that unless you have a 4770K cpu you cannot win the cup. Currently I am leading in 2 of the 3 stages yet my XTU score will prevent me from winning the overall. I have a delidded 3770K under custom water and the score I submitted for XTU is 43rd overall among 3770K CPU's yet 4770K with only a slight overclock will score higher. It is in Intel's best business interest to tailor the benchmark so it will score highest on their latest CPU's. It seems skewed however as we all know the difference in true speed between a 3770K and 4770K is not as high as the XTU scores would indicate. Anyway, just my 2 cents and I'm sure this is nothing that you haven't heard before. THanks

 

The main reason why XTU is included is because we notice that it's the benchmark that introduces most people to the world of HWBOT. The Rookie Rumble is an initiative from our side with no influence from Intel on the benchmark selection. It makes sense to include the benchmark that brings most new Rookies to the bot in the Rookie Rumble cup.

 

Anyway, there will always be a scenario where one setup has an advantage over the other. That's the interesting part of competitive overclocking: trying to find a way to overcome the performance deficits of your own system :celebration:

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You could win XTU stage with 3770K as it seems very dependent not only on clockspeed but also on RAM timings. I dont think there is a way of making it a totally level playing field as some competitors have multiple setups for different benchmarks others live in a cold climate etc...its as fair as it can be :)

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While I see your point about why XTU is used and there is no influence from Intel, I am just saying it is not a true reflection of CPU speed. For instance, the highest 3770K with water is 1153 and that required 5.425ghz which is likely a 1 in a million chip to bench that high under water. That score would place 10th in the current competition and no amount of memory tweaking will ever close the inflated performance gap the benchmark sets between the 3770K and 4770K. I enjoy the competition and think it a great way to get new folks involved but as long as XTU is used your winner will always be a 4770K, until Intel releases the next batch of chips, even if another chip wins or almost wins the other 2 stages.

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