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  1. SuperPi is optimized for an Intel instruction set. That's the truth. But i can't hold with that... its not the right way to splitting AMD and Intel.

     

    In my forum a (Intel-)User program the Benchmark "SuperFIB". He dont make optimizing for any CPU, but the performance of AMD-CPUs is higher then all Intel-CPUs. :-) Include it on HWbot!!! :-)

     

    @Techtrancer

    I hate Intel, but i bench 3DMarks with an Xeon W3520. All AMD-Junkies who whant to make more Points on HWbot must do that. So sell your soul to the devil and come to us in the Intel-Hell. :-)

  2. I dont hold with that. Its easy to make a lot of Points with 3DMarks, why they become bonus Points. I think - when you give bonus Points - then for all Benchmarks.

     

    rewarding financial input is not a key characteristic of the Overclockers League.

     

    But a lot of Overclockers have Sponsors, Money or both. Many People bench Gulftown-CPUs last year! In Austria - without sponsor (EVGA, Intel,...) - i have no chance to buy one. :-)

     

    My vote is yes, but the suggested point bonus is too high.

     

    i confirm that opinion!

     

    greets

    Michael

  3. That graduation did not represent the effort one had to put into benching. Why should we be handing out points for free?

     

    At the Moment you handing out Points for free... Rank 200 become 0,1 Points and Rank 400 also. Rank 200 is a Avarage Bencher with a bad luck with this hardware and Rank 400 is a disinteresed Noob, bench with Standard Cooler on a old hard disk with a 5 years old and virus contaminated OS on it. :-)

     

    When i start at HWbot i love it to fight me up from Rank 17 to 16... and then to 15... and with a little bit luck (and a lot of tuning) im under the Top 5. Now i have no motivation to bench hour and hour for a better Rank. Equal how many hours i bench, how many Settings i make, it brings me 0,1 Points. That's the Problem.

     

    At the moment it looks like "billion of Points for the rich Top 10 benchers and a kick in the ass for the Mob.

  4. "Okay, let's give 0 points then."

     

    @Massman

     

    Im not alone with my opinion: a graduation like Rev2 (Rank 17 have 0,8 Points, Rank 18 0,7,.... and the last: 0 - Zero!!!) was the better method.

    I think a lot Changes from Rev3 are good ore at least passable, but this was the first step to lose a lot of Users.

    So many People are demotivated now, even Winners of this Revision.

  5. @theLamer

     

    You forgot the new "0,1 Points for All"-Rule*.

    Why should i bench my AMD-CPUs hour and hour, when each Notebook-Bench brings 0,1 Points. Regardless of which Cooling, Settings, OS,.... in one Day i bench 5 Notebooks with Standardsettings and make 0,1 Points in all Benchmarks. Cool...... :-(

     

     

    * Or better: the 0,1 Points for the MOB.

  6. HW points distribution after fix:

     

    *********** Testing 1
    hw rank 1/1: 1.5
    *********** Testing 2
    hw rank 1/2: 1.5
    hw rank 2/2: 0.1
    *********** Testing 3
    hw rank 1/3: 1.5
    hw rank 2/3: 0.1
    hw rank 3/3: 0.1
    *********** Testing 4
    hw rank 1/4: 1.5
    hw rank 2/4: 1.2
    hw rank 3/4: 0.1
    hw rank 4/4: 0.1
    *********** Testing 5
    hw rank 1/5: 1.5
    hw rank 2/5: 1.2
    hw rank 3/5: 0.1
    hw rank 4/5: 0.1
    hw rank 5/5: 0.1
    *********** Testing 6
    hw rank 1/6: 1.5
    hw rank 2/6: 1.2
    hw rank 3/6: 0.9
    hw rank 4/6: 0.1
    hw rank 5/6: 0.1
    hw rank 6/6: 0.1
    *********** Testing 7
    hw rank 1/7: 1.5
    hw rank 2/7: 1.2
    hw rank 3/7: 0.9
    hw rank 4/7: 0.1
    hw rank 5/7: 0.1
    hw rank 6/7: 0.1
    hw rank 7/7: 0.1
    *********** Testing 8
    hw rank 1/8: 1.5
    hw rank 2/8: 1.2
    hw rank 3/8: 0.9
    hw rank 4/8: 0.6
    hw rank 5/8: 0.1
    hw rank 6/8: 0.1
    hw rank 7/8: 0.1
    hw rank 8/8: 0.1
    *********** Testing 9
    hw rank 1/9: 1.556
    hw rank 2/9: 1.2
    hw rank 3/9: 0.9
    hw rank 4/9: 0.6
    hw rank 5/9: 0.1
    hw rank 6/9: 0.1
    hw rank 7/9: 0.1
    hw rank 8/9: 0.1
    hw rank 9/9: 0.1
    *********** Testing 10
    hw rank 1/10: 1.6
    hw rank 2/10: 1.2
    hw rank 3/10: 0.9
    hw rank 4/10: 0.6
    hw rank 5/10: 0.3
    hw rank 6/10: 0.1
    hw rank 7/10: 0.1
    hw rank 8/10: 0.1
    hw rank 9/10: 0.1
    hw rank 10/10: 0.1
    *********** Testing 11
    hw rank 1/11: 1.8
    hw rank 2/11: 1.2
    hw rank 3/11: 0.9
    hw rank 4/11: 0.6
    hw rank 5/11: 0.3
    hw rank 6/11: 0.1
    hw rank 7/11: 0.1
    hw rank 8/11: 0.1
    hw rank 9/11: 0.1
    hw rank 10/11: 0.1
    hw rank 11/11: 0.1
    *********** Testing 20
    hw rank 1/20: 3.6
    hw rank 2/20: 2.56
    hw rank 3/20: 1.89
    hw rank 4/20: 1.44
    hw rank 5/20: 1.1
    hw rank 6/20: 0.8
    hw rank 7/20: 0.6
    hw rank 8/20: 0.4
    hw rank 9/20: 0.2
    hw rank 10/20: 0.1
    hw rank 11/20: 0.1
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    hw rank 16/20: 0.1
    hw rank 17/20: 0.1
    hw rank 18/20: 0.1
    hw rank 19/20: 0.1
    hw rank 20/20: 0.1
    *********** Testing 30
    hw rank 1/30: 5.6
    hw rank 2/30: 4.16
    hw rank 3/30: 3.24
    hw rank 4/30: 2.64
    hw rank 5/30: 2.2
    hw rank 6/30: 1.8
    hw rank 7/30: 1.6
    hw rank 8/30: 1.4
    hw rank 9/30: 1.2
    hw rank 10/30: 1
    hw rank 11/30: 0.8
    hw rank 12/30: 0.6
    hw rank 13/30: 0.4
    hw rank 14/30: 0.2
    hw rank 15/30: 0.1
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    hw rank 29/30: 0.1
    hw rank 30/30: 0.1
    *********** Testing 50
    hw rank 1/50: 9.6
    hw rank 2/50: 7.36
    hw rank 3/50: 5.94
    hw rank 4/50: 5.04
    hw rank 5/50: 4.4
    hw rank 6/50: 3.8
    hw rank 7/50: 3.6
    hw rank 8/50: 3.4
    hw rank 9/50: 3.2
    hw rank 10/50: 3
    hw rank 11/50: 2.8
    hw rank 12/50: 2.6
    hw rank 13/50: 2.4
    hw rank 14/50: 2.2
    hw rank 15/50: 2
    hw rank 16/50: 1.8
    hw rank 17/50: 1.6
    hw rank 18/50: 1.4
    hw rank 19/50: 1.2
    hw rank 20/50: 1
    hw rank 21/50: 0.8
    hw rank 22/50: 0.6
    hw rank 23/50: 0.4
    hw rank 24/50: 0.2
    hw rank 25/50: 0.1
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    *********** Testing 100
    hw rank 1/100: 19.6
    hw rank 2/100: 15.36
    hw rank 3/100: 12.69
    hw rank 4/100: 11.04
    hw rank 5/100: 9.9
    hw rank 6/100: 8.8
    hw rank 7/100: 8.6
    hw rank 8/100: 8.4
    hw rank 9/100: 8.2
    hw rank 10/100: 8
    hw rank 11/100: 7.8
    hw rank 12/100: 7.6
    hw rank 13/100: 7.4
    hw rank 14/100: 7.2
    hw rank 15/100: 7
    hw rank 16/100: 6.8
    hw rank 17/100: 6.6
    hw rank 18/100: 6.4
    hw rank 19/100: 6.2
    hw rank 20/100: 6
    hw rank 21/100: 5.8
    hw rank 22/100: 5.6
    hw rank 23/100: 5.4
    hw rank 24/100: 5.2
    hw rank 25/100: 5
    hw rank 26/100: 4.8
    hw rank 27/100: 4.6
    hw rank 28/100: 4.4
    hw rank 29/100: 4.2
    hw rank 30/100: 4
    hw rank 31/100: 3.8
    hw rank 32/100: 3.6
    hw rank 33/100: 3.4
    hw rank 34/100: 3.2
    hw rank 35/100: 3
    hw rank 36/100: 2.8
    hw rank 37/100: 2.6
    hw rank 38/100: 2.4
    hw rank 39/100: 2.2
    hw rank 40/100: 2
    hw rank 41/100: 1.8
    hw rank 42/100: 1.6
    hw rank 43/100: 1.4
    hw rank 44/100: 1.2
    hw rank 45/100: 1
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    hw rank 47/100: 0.6
    hw rank 48/100: 0.4
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    *********** Testing 400
    hw rank 1/400: 49.75
    hw rank 2/400: 39.6
    hw rank 3/400: 33.244
    hw rank 4/400: 29.4
    hw rank 5/400: 26.812
    hw rank 6/400: 24.25
    hw rank 7/400: 24.125
    hw rank 8/400: 24
    hw rank 9/400: 23.875
    hw rank 10/400: 23.75
    hw rank 11/400: 23.625
    hw rank 12/400: 23.5
    hw rank 13/400: 23.375
    hw rank 14/400: 23.25
    hw rank 15/400: 23.125
    hw rank 16/400: 23
    hw rank 17/400: 22.875
    hw rank 18/400: 22.75
    hw rank 19/400: 22.625
    hw rank 20/400: 22.5
    hw rank 21/400: 22.375
    hw rank 22/400: 22.25
    hw rank 23/400: 22.125
    hw rank 24/400: 22
    hw rank 25/400: 21.875
    hw rank 26/400: 21.75
    hw rank 27/400: 21.625
    hw rank 28/400: 21.5
    hw rank 29/400: 21.375
    hw rank 30/400: 21.25
    hw rank 31/400: 21.125
    hw rank 32/400: 21
    hw rank 33/400: 20.875
    hw rank 34/400: 20.75
    hw rank 35/400: 20.625
    hw rank 36/400: 20.5
    hw rank 37/400: 20.375
    hw rank 38/400: 20.25
    hw rank 39/400: 20.125
    hw rank 40/400: 20
    hw rank 41/400: 19.875
    hw rank 42/400: 19.75
    hw rank 43/400: 19.625
    hw rank 44/400: 19.5
    hw rank 45/400: 19.375
    hw rank 46/400: 19.25
    hw rank 47/400: 19.125
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    hw rank 49/400: 18.875
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    hw rank 51/400: 18.625
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    hw rank 65/400: 16.875
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    hw rank 73/400: 15.875
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    This "0,1 Points for the People"-Rule is killing HWbot. So many People would like to close with benching.

  7. If you look at the same rank, that's not true. The best 50% get HW boints, so 7th and 12th should get the same 0.1 boints, but 5th will give a bit more.

     

    thats what i say: a lot of People become 0,1 Points. Whats the Motivation for Rookies or Occasional-Bencher to make a better Score when the most Scores brings the same Points? In the past i work hours and hours to bring a Score up from Rank 12 to 11, and then i look to hit Rank 10. A good many times i have luck (and i little bit skill) to jump with this method from a average Rank into the Top 5.

     

    I have enough Hardware and the Equipment to bench all my Stuff with Extreme-Cooling, but the most People on HWbot bench with Air Cooling. And the most People - 10000 of Average Benchers - make HWbot to the greatest Overclocking-Platform. With Rev3 you kick this 10000 People in the Ass. Sorry. :-(

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