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    Would this score be valid?

    in Submission & member moderation

    Posted

    I'm asking after having read the rules and finding nothing which would illegalize a score like the attached one.

     

    It was achieved with a driver that caused nvidia to be accused of cheating and has, compared to other scores, a quite apparent diverging distribution of Fps in the individual game tests.

     

    No the question: Is this score valid so that i can go for an entry?

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    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    from the get go "default" in 3D01SE is defined by not showing the "this benchmark was not run at default settings". No matter if a webpage at futuremark has a slightly different approach; the results are moderated with the info provided and the feedback from the application makes it clear.

    Does that also apply to the ORB? I mean, if there's an entry in there flagged as "validation: ok", then one should be safe to assume, that that's the case, shouldn't one?

     

    Result Info
        Your system (No Score) 		Compared system
Validity 		                        OK

     

    Because - if you only provide a link to the FM ORB, there's no screenshot showing the ominous "benchmark was not run at the default setting" sign - even the original run prior to the result submission into the ORB would have. You would have to go through the submission and look for usage of compressed ord 32 Bit Textures.

     

    For example, that this (which you should be familiar with):

    http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=2100888&compareResultType=6

     

    Everything's in order according to Futuremark (and to my own assumptions, too), albeit a screenshot-only submission would show otherwise. Thus, you are penalizing only people unable to use a registered version of 3DMark 2001 SE, because they're the ones whose scores would get blocked. The very same score submitted via ORB-Links would be legal.

     

    From the current rules of 3DMark 2001 SE submission:

    "have a valid screenshot (see example below): clearly show 3Dmark score, 3Dmark subtest scores, 3Dmark settings, processor in CPU-Z, videocard in GPU-Z, unless you provide a futuremark orb link"

     

    Conclusion: Please either ban according card-models (3dfx < Voodoo4 4500, Nvidia < Geforce, all Kyros, MAtrox < Parhelia, Ati < Rage128) completely from 3DMark 2001SE submissions or allow them to run at their individual defaults - IMHO even 3dfx-cards should be allowed to compete against each other in their own defaults, but that's positively debatable.

     

    With this, I'll rest my case.

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    we'll look indeed into how to resolve this issue with older hardware as this is causing way more issues than what's it worth

    I am sure, if you talk this over internally and give it a good night's sleep or two, you'll come up with a pratical and fair solution - maybe a ranking, but not hwboints? :-)

     

    I'll keep benching my old cards anyway - if i cannot post them here, I'll look for alternatives. (not supposed to be a thread or something like that)

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    PCGH_Carsten

    Instead of reporting my results, you should have explained to this moderator that you can run this test at the same settings as on 32mb-card

    I'm sorry. I was just curious if there's any chance, it'll be worth investing some time to submit "oldtimer-scores" or not. Didn't mean to harm anyone specific and just wanted to avoid getting all my scores blocked.

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    rule is= benchmark can not be run at default settings= not accepted ;)

    if you do submit a score it will be classified as which means that the score

     

     

    those TNT scores you linked, seems legit:

     

    Sorry, I still don't understand. Is your rule > Turricans rule? Because every single screenshot shows "the benchmark wasn't run on default" (see below for explanation).

    i think that's no problem.

    all pre geforce/radeon cards cannot run 3dmark01 on default, because lack of texure compression.

    it will always say "the benchmark wasn't run on default". ;)

    TNT2 M64 - possible to have 3DM01-Score?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    And what about 16-MB-cards? There are a few of results in both the 16 MB TNT and TNT2 M64 category.

     

    • http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_994

    • http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1411

    • http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_996 (some in here also)

     

     

    I'm not against "legalizing" this as an exception (also, TNT2-cards cannot run AM3 with default 4x Aniso…) but there should be a generally applicable rule to follow.

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