boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) I can't figure out what is going wrong, and I sure could appreciate a little help. I am a pretty experienced overclocker, and thought I knew everything about these chips but... This is my system, I built it for fun out of spare parts (if you need anymore information by the end please ask) FX 8300 (was brand new in the box the other day), Gigabyte AM3+ board, with 8 gb DRR3 @1600 9..9.9.24.1, GTX 970 graphics, SSD, reservoir, swiftech xtreme ddc style water pump, 240mm radiator mounted in front, and decent waterblocks for both the gpu and cpu. Like everyone else, I am able to hit about 4600mhz stable at 1.400 volts. My gpu is stable at 1493mhz @ 1.212v and 195 watts max. My problem is with cinebench r11.5. At stock speeds, In openGL, I get about a 41.04. I can see in the OSD my clock speeds for my GPU are staying down at the default clock speed of 1177mhz. Cinebench doesn't stress the GPU enough to make it boost up or something, only about 30% utilization. And under perfcap reason in GPU-z during OpenGL, it still says utilization. Is this common? I see the cpu comparison says mine is worse then pentiums and stuff with like gtx 280 or 480. And the CPU test reveals an even more disappointing 5.18pts. Overclocked, I can pull of about 57 fps, and get about a 6 cpu. I know I have seen many post saying their 8300 or 8350 got like 80-90 fps with a gtx 580 or similar card, at lower clock rates. I saw one guy usually gets between 9 and 10 CPU score with an 8300. To recap scores Stock clock speeds - Cpu 5.18 pts 4600mhz reveals a - Cpu 6. CinebenchR15 gets a 455cb Does this mean the FX processors were truly just that awful? I don't seem to remember them being, even though they are like 9 years old now with zero support -Bob Edited October 23, 2019 by boobteg4642 Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 5.18 is the Cinebench score. Don't need the other stuff Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 The other scores you see with higher numbers are the other versions of cinebench - R15 and R20 and the older one Cinebench 2003 but all those versions give the score in "cb" not "pts". Hwbot is only concerned with the CPU score from Cinebench. The OpenGL scores are a GPU test. Vishera was fine. My daily is an FX-8350 still. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, cbjaust said: The other scores you see with higher numbers are the other versions of cinebench - R15 and R20 and the older one Cinebench 2003 but all those versions give the score in "cb" not "pts". Hwbot is only concerned with the CPU score from Cinebench. The OpenGL scores are a GPU test. Vishera was fine. My daily is an FX-8350 still. I got a 455 cb in Cinebench r15 Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, cbjaust said: 4 minutes ago, cbjaust said: The other scores you see with higher numbers are the other versions of cinebench - R15 and R20 and the older one Cinebench 2003 but all those versions give the score in "cb" not "pts". Hwbot is only concerned with the CPU score from Cinebench. The OpenGL scores are a GPU test. Vishera was fine. My daily is an FX-8350 still. what cb you get under the later cinebenches? Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) My FX-8350 at 4888MHz - 784cb and 1509 in R20 at 4503MHz Edited October 23, 2019 by cbjaust Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, boobteg4642 said: I got a 455 cb in Cinebench r15 For your Gpu you can try heaven benchmarks. I know with the 970 I can run less cores 8086K & it goes alright in old 3D benches too Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, avalanche said: For your Gpu you can try heaven benchmarks. I know with the 970 I can run less cores 8086K & it goes alright in old 3D benches too It does great in 3dmark pro. With Time Spy and all. I just can't do extreme. But other than that it hat least holds the GPU clock at 1493. I seem to be getting low scores there as well though, compared to my historic benchmarks in the past. The GPU is working great, it's the CPU that I think there's something up with. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, cbjaust said: My FX-8350 at 4888MHz - 784cb and 1509 in R20 at 4503MHz I can't pull 4888mhz at least not on multiplier+core voltage alone. My cooling is fine, any tips on how you stabilized above 4800mhz? Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 By the way, I want to thank you both for taking the time to even respond to me. I know this is an old processor, and I didn't expect much support here. So thanks. Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 All good man. Lots of experience in these forums. I had Amd up till 1100t then switched over to dirty wintel. 3570K & the onboard iGpu interested me for QuicSync action Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Memory can have a lot to do with stability. My cooling was just a Thermalright TRUE Black with one or maybe two fans push-pull. Is the FX-8300 Bulldozer? If so it will not clock quite as well as Vishera. No probs, ask away. Edit: nevermind, FX-8300 is Vishera Edited October 23, 2019 by cbjaust Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, avalanche said: All good man. Lots of experience in these forums. I had Amd up till 1100t then switched over to dirty wintel. 3570K & the onboard iGpu interested me for QuicSync action I used to have the i7 4790k with a gtx 780, it blew this system out of the water in every aspect, gaming, threading, not one thing was the fx better at. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, cbjaust said: Memory can have a lot to do with stability. My cooling was just a Thermalright TRUE Black with one or maybe two fans push-pull. Is the FX-8300 Bulldozer? If so it will not clock quite as well as Vishera. No probs, ask away. Here's my Ram, it's stable I ran prime95 with it like that for a couple hours. Didn't fail and never got above 30 degrees, although I know with amd that was inaccurate. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 I am going to go restart, lock my clocks and turn off power management and see what my numbers are now overclocked be right back. Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 You might get some benefit with more CPU-NB, 2500MHz is probably doable. Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, boobteg4642 said: I used to have the i7 4790k with a gtx 780, it blew this system out of the water in every aspect, gaming, threading, not one thing was the fx better at. Started uploading scores here on 4790K. They kicked ass & still do. 3D01se my favorite then with busted ass $20 gpu's that were oven baked beauties. Fun times Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, cbjaust said: You might get some benefit with more CPU-NB, 2500MHz is probably doable. You think I will notice a difference? If so what voltage should I throw the NB to at 2500mhz? Here's what I got now. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, avalanche said: Started uploading scores here on 4790K. They kicked ass & still do. 3D01se my favorite then with busted ass $20 gpu's that were oven baked beauties. Fun times I broke some records with two gtx 780's in sli with the 4790k. Best DDR3 processor intel made in my opinion. Reason it still costs $350. Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, cbjaust said: My FX-8350 at 4888MHz - 784cb and 1509 in R20 at 4503MHz Hmm. I just overclocked to 4400mhz and still only got a 592 cb in R15. Def. better than the 455 earlier at stock clocks but still. Maybe the 8350 was just that much better than the 8300. Edited October 23, 2019 by boobteg4642 Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 1 minute ago, boobteg4642 said: I broke some records with two gtx 780's in sli with the 4790k. Best DDR3 processor intel made in my opinion. Reason it still costs $350. ahah ... the search is on Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 My daily is running 1.35v for the CPU-NB VID at 2733MHz. CPU is at 20.5 x 228 for 4668MHz. I didn't have a CB 2003 score so I chucked one up just now at full bloat with stuff runnng in the background. Nothing to write home about: 4265317_cbjaust_cinebench___2003_fx_8350_2547_points/ Quote
boobteg4642 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, avalanche said: ahah ... the search is on I have two accounts here, they might be under boobteg4444 also. Mind you this was a long time ago also, they are no longer records. Edited October 23, 2019 by boobteg4642 Quote
cbjaust Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 You might want to re-acquaint yourself with the rules especially for Cinebench. (Hint: show the full rendered image and a full uncropped desktop including the clock) Quote
Guest Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 Well you can get going now doing scores. You just need search out scores in your range you can hit. Quote
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