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  1. That's NOT what I said! And I believe I made that very clear.

     

    Sorry, i'm gonna say it differently

     

    When all hwbot crew will be convinced that there is no sharing, did all the results (exepts those who are really incorrect because lack of some details like GPUz or bench settings, etc...) will be restored ?

     

    I know you don't say that, i just want to ask other crew members their opinion ;)

     

    EDIT : and i think one thing must be explained. We don't want to bother anyone. We just can't understand why some of our results are still blocked. We just ask people (hwbot members and crew) to be reasonnable and fair.

     

    EDIT 2 : more pics :

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    As you can see it, it was a funny party :D

  2. Massman & richba5stard > I think Jmax understand it well. But he would like to say that if it's the rules for a long time, our results have been moderate, and it's normal. But to be fair, all results which doesn't match with the rules must be blocked.

     

    I hate this, because i believed everyone should moderate itself. But as it's not what's happening, hwbot crew is here to be sure everything is fair. And to be fair, rules must apply to everyone since they have been wrote.

  3. Ok, it appears clearer now. All the member of our team will include subtests results now.

    But how can you explain that there is a lot of results which are not moderated even if subtests are missing ? I don't want to accuse anyone because i think this rule wasn't really clear for everyone. But I think everyone or no one should be blocked because of subtests misssing.

     

    jmke > We talk each other on our own forums, and we all think that this rules mustn't apply before an annoucement done on hwbot to explain it. Of course, you are the only ones who decides, but i think that this kind of problems will be more and more frequent if we don't make it the right way.

     

    Neoforce > Thank you for understanding that there is no sharing from us.

     

    Thekarmakazi > thanks for your congrats, it's really good to read some words about our scores and not about our problems on hwbot :)

  4. - For 3DMark/PCMark: benchmark settings have to be visible as well as the subtest scores

     

    This is from the rules you have linked.

    Neoforce, could you told me if the subtests is a recent update or if it's the rules for a long time ? Because we never envounters any problems for a long time and don't see anything about an update.

  5. We can't proove unsharing, so others people won't be able to do it i guess ? So i'm right if i'm invalidating all similar scores of a team/country ??

    It's not fair, everyone of you knows why we have been moderate.

     

    Concerning the subtests details, it seems it's not really necessary at the moment, but it's just the reason given on hwbot. And as Jmax said, give us the link with the news mentionning this rules modifications.

     

     

    In france, we do it that way : up to 20 people meet and try to get high scores together. IT's more funny and friendly. Moreover, it's easier as getting LN2 is really hard and expensive in France.

    Overclocking is a pleasure, we do it funny, and all of you want us to overclock alone because of suspicious sharing ?? No way ! I prefer leaving hwbot than stopping our bench parties. And i think i won't be alone...

  6. Hi there,

     

    From Friday to Monday, several members of JMax-Hardware Team meet to bench together.

    We were 25 people, and we had 400L of LN2, some DI, 4 cascades and 3 SS. Of course, we had a lot of hardware, and this is the point of this thread : a lot of pour results have been invalidated because of hardware sharing.

     

    I don't have all the pics right now, but i wanna show which kinf of hardware were here.

     

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    A little movie of all our setups (it was on friday night so some people are missing) :

     

    Here is our french thread for this bench party : http://www.jmax-hardware.com/forum/index.php/topic,3821.0.html

     

    As all of you can see it, there was a lot of hardware. We can give invoices for everything as it's our own components !

    There is no GPU sharing for 3D benching, and no CPU sharing for CPU benching.

  7. I was one of the 5 members of this bench party. Dami1stm, Westyle, Drazendead, Toyten and me where there, and there was no CPU sharing for CPU benching (according to the rules).

     

    Toyten had a Rampage Extreme cooled by thermalright (as you can see it on the picture) and Westyle had another one, stock cooled. There was two different mainbaords, two differents LN2 pot, two differents CPUs, differents memory sticks/OS, etc...

    Everyone on hwbot got E8600 and Rampage Extreme, strap 400 is needed to get 645FSB, and it means ratio 3/5 (3/2 btw, we all know that cpuz bug). As said before, two results quite similars could be done with different setups, even if i can understand moderator's point of view (similar results in the same team, the same day is strange).

     

    I hope this will solve quickly :)

     

     

    EDIT : here is some pics to help

     

    CPUs of this bench party :

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    E8600s (QX6850 beetwin) :

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    Westyle's Rampage (stock cooling) :

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