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  1. safedisk can you add poor mans impact to the front page? ASUS ROG X570-I
  2. lol yah that was a zen 1 thing for launch agesa.
  3. 3/8 used to work better for me on R1 as well. Not sure if your sticks can do it but 10-9-9 showed a lot of promise in the past, don't bother with cas 9 though it was slower than c10. dropping twcl -2 of CL is an intel thing. AMD likes them =. Honestly I ran some aggressive settings the other night vs my daily mem timings. I'm not seeing anything spectacular. 100 mhz is worth 15 secs on avg. im doing 6:00 at 4850mhz on prime stable settings and 6:15 and 4750mhz. Honestly the times im seeing are where they are supposed to be for the cpu speed and the memory tuning gains are like pulling teeth for any gains. I see what you meant about certain dividers. fwiw at least yours can boot. 5900x boots 3733, 07 hang @ 3800, boot 3866 all the way to 4066 so lol..... That's on the dark but my 5800x is fine......
  4. My guess would be aggressive error correction. 2000 is not really any more stable than 3933 or 3966 all produce whea errors when not cutting OS memory down via maxmem. 3800 and lower is perfectly fine if there is no post hole which apparently even on DARK my 5900 has at 3800 with 07 post code. 3800+ boots fine but wheas.
  5. I've played with the feature. It's viable if your not setting your baseline at "prime stable clocks" but AMD does a better job at it if your target fixed clock is "prime stable clocks" Right now other than that feature and or want the ability to SHOW a number higher than 2000 fclk or require the slightly improved vrm for benching on ln2 or just want a fanless heatsink solution I see no reason to upgrade to DARK. It's not bad, I like it but overall experience wise it runs and performs the same in the 24/7 stable department.
  6. probably a similar situation as this. Fmax scalar vs PBO. 4.6 avg clocks through CB 4450 avg clocks through CB Although I noticed something when pushing dual CCX chips to the ragged edge that score is effectively half what you would expect leading me to believe 1 CCX has dropped.
  7. define working are you looking to be stable or looking to bench. I'm not saying its impossible but i am saying its possible that it will never be stable due to the whea reports being cpu bus/interconnect. booting and running does not denote stability which both hero's lack at anything over 1900 in my testing.
  8. High pll buys you about 200 mhz more mem clocks linked. without it the chVIII non dark is capped at 3800/1900. If you experience slowdown crank it till you don't....... Board choice seems to matter alot as to how high the fclk can go linked to mem, as long as the vendors aren't already playing games with pll you should be able to gain 200 mem/100 fabric.
  9. Jack up your PLL voltage to about 2.1v. Benching only........do not take this advice anyone running 24/7.........
  10. probably error correction feature in cpu causing slowdown. bclk on asrock x370 was limted to like 110 previously have to kill all devices no nvme best to physically unplug the bluetooth/wifi from board as it knocks it out will probably break it. pci e gen 1 etc etc all the AMD bclk tricks will be needed for it to maybe work.
  11. yep davis was a tad faster than this on the giga which was faster back then. This was one of the fastest 4 gig results back then. looks like 5000 series does it easily. Now ill have to break it down see if cpu model impacts results or we don't need the highest cache cpu to play the game. I imagine at your experience level you tested 2x8 also loud so coldbug was bad regardless i gather?
  12. now AMD is faster than r1 finally. hows the 4 gig clock results loud?
  13. I/O die is unchanged. That said CB should be unchanged. What really needs close attention with the reveal is how 3900/3950 performed in games prior compared to parts that are replacing them. I mean great 26% uplift but if 3950x was slower than there best gaming chip ( 3800x ) by 10% then really what is the uplift? 16%? AMD kind of sleight of handed this one. Reporting gains only on chips that did not perform as good as there best and omitted gains of the chip that did perform the best. I'm about as AMD as it gets but I am also a realist not a blind fanboy. I was talking to Davis (zeneffect) about this a couple weeks ago. I said its not going to be a slam dunk but it is going to be enough to take the intel is best gaming chip crown away and they will trade blows across many titles.
  14. yah it's not that causing this problem speed. These are neos. they are from the new bins. In fact they are very close to the non existent 1.4v c16 4000 bin as they can do 4000 16-16-16-36 4000 @1.4v if I leave everything else auto. I'm only running 1.45v to 100% ensure they can handle my subtimings. 1T is really not the problem anyway. the problem exists without even throwing 1t in the mix and the problem lies somewhere in the training when trying to manually tune shit. If B0 and B1 is shit then A0 and A1 should be shit as well. I have 4 8gb sticks of old B die so I will compare them versus my royals 2x8 gb which are new bdie but tbh i'm not expecting much as this board currently has an artificial wall. I already found a very convincing bug and can do 4600 with only 1.35vddr ( because if you change that it fails boot ) Almost full auto boots and runs tests fine 4400/4500/4600 but copying settings and inputting them identically fails training so it's not possible manual. Honestly I know how they test and i'm testing the same way so they probably think nothings wrong board does 4600 it's good. Go manual and not so good
  15. That is not gonna kill anything. I've run up to 1.7v and i'm sure the hardcore benchers run more.
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