Faster

"A vote where 150 of your forum members say "yes" and all other people don't really care either way?" (his words, "friend").....do you all think that polls are irrelevant here.... why then have that vote? (Voting for Maxxmem2 giving points with 3 diferent options, or not giving points) strange?

you talk it because you're not in the enthusiast league....change to there that will understand what happens!!! everyone looking for old hadware to gain a more consistent scoring....it is sad to see it happen....this has nothing to do with being enthusiastic... with CPUs and VGAs increasingly cold, is a tendency to get enthusiasts closer to overclockers....you wanting or not wanting Massman.....so it is only fair that a WR Point has the same value for all leagues....

"...Although this thread was very interesting as people brought up valid arguments in favor or against allowing WR points to count for this league...." (these are your words).....if this really happened, it would be a vote ideial....if you do not accept it because you doubt even if the rules were fair and good....this is clear as the sun

then your final word is that we have not even a vote?

this is your opinion....my opinion and others is very different from yours....you should listen to other opinions and at least put to a vote!!! if the rules are so good, do a poll and find out the truth

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5461/capturarxn.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9427/capturar2dc.jpg nothing convinces me that this is unfair!!!! I have 115 WR points that just did not help at all..... with these 115 WR points I would be Emperor of Overclock.....if anyone here not think it is important, must leave the Hwbot.... these 115 WR points were the hardest to win....I have dedicated much time and money to get them.... I would like a definitive answer of moderation....so as to define my future here....thx (thanks for the help Google Translator =D) Faster Benchmarker

Doesn't we will have a vote?

thx friend....I hope everything goes well

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3647/capturarnh.jpg is this normal? been more than 10 days and no update.....will they wait for someone of the SUB ZERO LEAGUE to stay in first and then update?

Congratulations! keep pushing

I would like to clarify that all Rigs ultilize for me to win the WR Points were also purchased with my own money the Rig (i7 990x ES (H2O) + 4x GTX580 (H2O)) and the Rig (i7 2600k (H2O) + 2x HD6990 (H2O)) assembly was made for my daily use.... who want to check step by step the assembly of some of them just get on my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/mamunaco edit: we could have a poll just to avoid further "clashes"

exactly! today we have 15000 people in Enthusiast League.....with the implementation of the WR Points in this League, the competition will be much more fun.....otherwise we will be forever doomed to fight for hardware points (old hardwares)

this would be perfect for you, since even you being in Overclockers League do not have any WR Points :D edit: I agree...I used wrong words... thats no fair rename Museum... i was nervous and writed wrong stuff.... But sure I did not agree I have no my deserved points, cause I do not want bench sub zero, and I do not put in risk my hardware to sub zero.

wrong....I still have WR Points in Vantage (4x GTX580), 3DMark 11 (4x GTX580) and Heaven DX11 (4x GTX580) =D

I live in Japan....and sometimes sending hardware with low prices for my friends of Brazil...I do not have a computer shop....and also I do not understand the direction this conversation.....personal?.....I'm not demanding a change in the rules.....I just want to open minds to new possibilities....

I dont know....the guy with the insinuation here is you =D

".....you own a computer shop right ?just my opinion, but guys who have access to all that hardware for free have nothing to do in the enthusiast league" You said it!!!

Enthusiast League (Ranking) 1st nachtfalke Global Points: 164,10 Hardware Points: 470,60 Total Points: 634,70 2nd poparamiro Global Points: 154,30 Hardware Points: 476,70 Total Points: 631,00 3rd Moose83 Global Points: 123,40 Hardware Points: 469,50 Total Points: 592,90 4th Jurky Global Points: 151,80 Hardware Points: 436,00 Total Points: 587,80 5th WhiteLion Global Points: 115,10 Hardware Points: 392,60 Total Points: 507,70 6th Faster (me) World Record Points: 55,00 Global Points: 126,20 Hardware Points: 360,10 Total Points: 541,30 - 55,00 (WR Points) = 486,30 then these profiles should change league?........

now I understand your opinion.....I saw that you have ZERO WR Points.....Stop complaining and start benching =D

much respect to the enthusiast league....why do you think the other Leagues are a next level? the decision to change league is just my....the discussion here is about WR Points for Enthusiast Legue.....and not whether I should or not change of league..... you should focus on the subject of discussion, baby ;D

I realized their arrogance.....I do not talk to you more.....thanks for nothing....end.

the current rules I better have a i5 2500k @5Ghz and 8800GT than a i7 2600k @5.5Ghz and 2x 6990.....this is be enthusiastic?.....These rules require us to be buying old hardware to have good points......please, rename Enthusiast League to Museum League =D

...old history...Jesus Christ...OMG....let Jesus Christ out of the discussion =D

Why are you insinuating against the Brazilians?Because you are from U.S. and have no good results, or cause you are seeing one more Brazilian with a world record? If people thought like you, we still in a Rev1, because the things that should be corrected would be always wrong. Any changes made were intended to improve, and change of rules including points for enthusiasts, will make the rules more fair....

special treatment? Smoke received 106.7 points with 1st place......and I got 6.7 points with my 1st place.....special treatment?