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    PCMark05 Transparent Windows Score

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    As i'm pretty sure many people want to know , here is the tranparent tweak i found a week ago ... This one gives a pretty nice boost to 12K + .

     

    You just have to move the mouse while running transparent test. Try to find the optimal speed . You don't have to move it all through the run . Sometimes moving it for a few secs is what needed .

     

    I found ikt accidentaly while browsing with my 2nd PC . I share the same mousepad and i accidentaly moved the bench rig mouse while browsing with the 2nd . :D

    PCMark05: Pixel Shader test?

    in General overclocking

    Posted

    Hi steve !

     

    I can't use rivatuner on my 6850.

     

    I set my lod to 30.. is it wrong ?

     

    I use Afterburner to set 2d clock and I use ati tray tool or CCC to set up my " driver settings "

     

    You don't have to use rivatuner .

     

    Just check at the installed folder > Program files > Rivatuner > Tools > d3doverrider .

    Run the d3doverrider and select the following options : High , On , Off.

     

    For the LOD , you have to use setlod application . Its here :http://ftpbackup.mojostech.net/download/Benchmark%20Tweaks/SetLODb6/SetLODb6.zip

     

    With high clocks , 5000 is percfectly legit .

    Smoke - GeForce GTX 580 @ 1400/1300MHz - 137130 marks 3DMark2001 SE

    in Result Discussions

    Posted

    Nice score !! It seems 580 is the best card right now for 01 :D

     

    I think this is the tweak people is looking for ...

     

    OK ... Here is what i found myself .

     

    Open nvidia inspector and go to the elevated settings .

     

    The press the third button from the right "show unknown settings from nvidia predefined profiles"

     

    Then you will see some more options available .

     

    Search lower at the "unknown settings"

     

    There is an option "pre_d3d9_compatibility_bits" .

    Just pull the arrow and select the 0x00000040 option .

     

    Now get to play with this favorite game .

    pro - Core i7 2600K @ 5600MHz - 43116 marks PCMark 2005

    in Result Discussions

    Posted

    misplaced my raid controller, so thought i should give it a go with ICH and some old school i-rams..

     

    fancy that, i can in 2nd place to myself, holy moly, i thought raid controller was worth 3.5k?, seems i had no idea what i was doing...

     

    42691.jpg

    Nice !!! :D

     

    I remember last year when we made the 38K run , we were trying to find a controller to test.

     

    After some research , i noticed that a controller seems to lack at 4K tests .

    I have stored in one of my HDD a crystaldiskmark with the 2 acards on ICHxR . That was the reason we could make high virus scan scores .

    With a raid contoller you get a nice boost and general usage though .

     

    I'll try to locate it and upload it just for reference .

     

    You still didn't answer me about this ...I can't find what i'm missing because i have never commented in the past ...

     

    "you can't just keep calling me out every time i do something you don't understand and expect me to hand it over with a smile on my face..

    "

    PCMark05 Transparent Windows Score

    in Benchmark software

    Posted

    So now we get to PCM again :)

     

    I suggest to make full subtest details mandatory. For example, two screenshots with the upper and lower parts.

    Stelaras, as I remember, the video encoder's registry entries allowed to set the number of cores being used. Maybe the 1.2.2 build does the same?

    Did you try to run the integrated Vista performance test to see what happens with Transparent windows score?

     

    Just an update ... It's been a few days since i logged in here and i'm trying to catch up .

     

    I found the "tweak" by myself . It's nothing special . Clean and totally legit .

    It gives a transparent score around 13000 at win7 . Don't know about vista , but i suspect around 30000 possible.

    pro - Core i7 2600K @ 5600MHz - 43116 marks PCMark 2005

    in Result Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Stelaras

    you didn't say i cheated, but you implied i am doing something wrong and not "normal", what is normal? subzero's score? or is my score normal? what even is normal?

     

    yes there is something for transparent windows, its not even a tweak though, its just ridiculous,

     

    im not going to be bullied into giving out every tweak because someone says "there is something wrong with your transparent windows", i will SHOW what im doing to prove it, but if you want me to show, then someone else needs a consequence for calling me out, do you understand?

     

    you can't just keep calling me out every time i do something you don't understand and expect me to hand it over with a smile on my face..

     

     

    Then i have to apology because it seems the way i wrote it was not good . I explained before what the issue was but you took it the wrong way.

     

    Subzero score seems on par with the majority of scores . Maybe the web page rendering is a bit high , but i can't say until i test it myself and see some runs from other people .

     

    When you see the 99% of scores and the subtest at the same clocks are very close , it's for sure not normal to see a few scores with high subtest results.

     

    I don't have any reason not to believe that the transparent tweak is normal if hwbot staff say it's OK .

     

    What i believe it must be done is set some kind of borders/limits to the subtests . The truth is that few people know how to properly tweak pcmark and you are one of them for sure . We should all bench at same settings as with every other benchmarks .

     

    What i would like to see from the hwbot staff is to give some rules on what is allowed or not .

    For example , can we change the video encoding resolution or not ? Can we adjust the video encoding filters or not ? The codec ??

    Can we adjust the visual settings or not ? etc etc ...

     

    I'll tell you again . I'm not telling that you cheated . And please explain this : "you can't just keep calling me out every time i do something you don't understand and expect me to hand it over with a smile on my face..

    "

     

    When did i write a bad comment in the past regarding a score of yours ??? Please give a link . Feel free to check the Greek forums and see it yourself .

     

     

    He even know how to do 2x better video encoding score, but he didn't do it.

    I have read some ways to do this with WMV powertoy and registry settings . But, is it acceptable by hwbot and futuremark ??

    pro - Core i7 2600K @ 5600MHz - 43116 marks PCMark 2005

    in Result Discussions

    Posted · Edited by Stelaras

    James , i think you misunderstood my comment . Did i say you have cheated ????

     

    I'm sure you can make this score again . No need for video taping . What makes me wonder is that there are 5 people who can make so high transparent and video encoding scores . It seems they know some tweaks and can do it .

     

    My comment was just because : Your video is around 300-400 higher than the normal scores . Transparent is around 3000 higher than the usual scores .

    PCMark05 Transparent Windows Score

    in Benchmark software

    Posted · Edited by Stelaras

    Good Transparent Windows run is 13к for Win7 (2600K@5600MHz) and 16.5k on Win8 (2600K@5300MHz).

    "Vista > Win8 > Win7" for Transparent Windows subtest but overall score is "Win8 > Win7 > Vista".

     

    Transparent Windows is not only one "tweakable" pcmark05 subtest. There is some other scores with "anomalies":

     

    Virus Scan:

    http://hwbot.org/submission/2130814_freakezoit_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_37031_marks

    http://hwbot.org/submission/2129940_freakezoit_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_36991_marks

    2000+ MB/s with "only" two iRAM's?

    It's two scores with different settings, so it seems repeatable and may not bugged.

    But I don't see anyone close to this in whole top20...

     

    Web Page Rendering:

    most people got 21-22 pages/s with IE9 and Win7, but there is also scores with 26-32 pages/s.

    26 pages/s (subzero): http://hwbot.org/submission/2186476_subzero_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_42059_marks

    32 pages/s (pro): http://hwbot.org/submission/2188240_pro_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_43116_marks'>http://hwbot.org/submission/2188240_pro_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_43116_marks

    I can get so high only with Win8, but not with Win7.

     

    Video Encoding:

    1xxx MB/s without WMV PowerToy (or directly editing registry setting) and 2xxx MB/s with it.

    3990 MB/s (pro): http://hwbot.org/submission/2188240_pro_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_43116_marks

     

    3D Pixel Shader:

    3xxx untweaked and 4xxx tweaked. Already discussed here:

    http://www.hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26580&highlight=Pixel+Shader

    What i can tell about the latest video encoding boost that people saw a few months ago is that all it does is to use all the CPU cores .

     

    How to do this ? Simply install the latest Pcmark05 1.2.2 build from futuremark (it appears as 1.2 but it's 1.2.2. in reality) ... and after that install a newer Futuremark Systeminfo (V3.6 or V4) .

    After that your video encoding speed will go up from 2XXX to 3600 .

     

    About the transparent i haven't found any way to give it a boost. I'm stuck at 8000-9000 at 5700Mhz 2600K .

     

    I have played with registry settings .... Blur , Alpha blend , Aero tweaks etc .

    I just have a feeling that it's something with the 3d acceleration .

     

    3D pixel shader needs LOD , gpu clocks ... and direct3doverrider with triple buffer enabled and vsync disabled .

     

    That virus scan you found is way too high for sure .

     

    Web page rendering needs to close all the IE addons and play with some advanced settings .

     

    If i remember something else , i'll post it . :)

     

     

    I made a similar thread, didnt see this one :P

     

    Persoanlly, I feel that we should say "anything goes" or remove at least globals from this benchmark, it seems like veryone has their own opinion on how the benchmark works, and a LOT of the scores are all over the place when you look at subtests.

     

    Agree 100% .

    PCMark05 Transparent Windows Score

    in Benchmark software

    Posted · Edited by Stelaras

    I was looking the pcmark scores and found some results that have high transparent windows at win7 .

     

    Transparent scales with cpu clocks . It's like a cpu benchmark .

     

    For example ...

     

    1st) http://hwbot.org/submission/2160869_omega3_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_35882_marks

     

    11000 transparent , win7 , 2600k @ 5300 .

     

    2nd) http://hwbot.org/submission/2178436_s_a_v_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_35748_marks

     

    10800 transparent , win7x64 , 2600k @ 5500 .

     

    3rd) http://hwbot.org/submission/2160841_gyrock_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_34673_marks

     

    10800 transparent , win7x64 , 2600k @ 5300 .

     

    4th) http://hwbot.org/submission/2165869_yancyan_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_33136_marks

     

    10800 transparent , win7 , 2600k @ 5500 .

     

    5th) http://hwbot.org/submission/2142160_s_a_v_pcmark_2005_core_i5_2500k_34344_marks

     

    12800 transparent , win7 , 2500k @ 5400 .

     

    6th) http://hwbot.org/submission/2142470_s_a_v_pcmark_2005_core_i5_2500_27719_marks

     

    9600 transparent , win7 , 2500 @ 4070 .

     

     

     

     

    Normal scores for these clocks would and win7 would be around 7000-8500 , from my experience . You can find many pcmark results with similar transparent score .

     

    I have never seen any higher score than 8800 even at 5700 Mhz 2600K at win7 .

     

     

    Also , regarding vista . It seems that you can get a score around 16000 to 19000 .

    How is possible to get 31000 ???

     

    http://hwbot.org/submission/2128177_steponz_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_37340_marks/

     

    This is with 980x ... http://hwbot.org/submission/1040000_vento1_pcmark_2005_core_i7_extreme_980x_32970_marks

     

    35000 marks with 5200 Mhz 980x

     

    Also very high with 6core ... http://hwbot.org/submission/2139248_s_a_v_pcmark_2005_xeon_x5667_6_cores_31247_marks

     

    10800 at 4850 mhz ...

     

     

    I'm not saying that all these users above are cheaters !

    The high transparent score is just something that is bothering me and my teammates a long time now . We have tried various tweaks etc with no real gain .

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